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Nintendo DS vs PSP - Help needed!!

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9y, 11m agoPosted 9 years, 11 months ago
I bought a DS Lite for my gf this Xmas, and after looking/playing with it I've decided a handheld console seems like a great idea.

I've looked into both for a while, but cannot decide which is the better idea?

I love top end graphics and good kit, which would side me more with the PSP, and I also have a Nintendo Wii so can get the DS counterpart games for it as and when they come out, but the DS seems to have a more fun approach to things.

I'm a 26yr old male and like different/interesting/fun games. I do tend to get bored of the same old thing pretty quickly, but recently completed Need For Speed Carbon and Most Wanted enjoying those, and have enjoyed Oblivion. I like racing games occasionally, fps's as long as they arent just the same old stuff, and rts's are good now and then! Basically I think the DS might have more original titles out there? Oh, and I cant stand special ops sneaky sneaky team leader rubbish, I just wanna get in and shoot things!

The decent games as far as I've been told/read for the DS are

Mario Kart DS (never played mario kart, any good? looks fun)
New Super Mario (never really liked platformers)
Meteos (sounds interesting?)
Elite Beat Agents (got this for the other half, looked ok altho not really my thing on first glance)
Animal Crossing (apparently great, got it for the gf, but looks like a bit of a girly/kids game?)
Metroid Prime Hunters (apparently a great fps for the ds?)
Trauma Centre (got it for gf, looks wicked and unique)
Nintendogs (got it for gf, not my thing tho, more for girls/kids?)


For the PSP

Lumines (sounds good?)
Wipeout Pure (i loved wipeout years ago)
GTA LCS and VCS (I bought the ps2 for GTA SA, who didn't quite honestly?! both sound great)
Ridge Racers (sounds like a top racer)
Burnout Legends (got Burnout Takedown for PS2, fun but doesn't really last that long)
Virtua Tennis (loved the dreamcast one)
LocoRoco (lol, this looks like something really decent, something happy for a change!)


So at the moment game wise methinks PSP. What do you all think out there? Any views on the above games? Anyone my age group that has both consoles or a preference?

Thanks to any help ya'all can give!

Oh and any 'cheapest' links to anything I've mentioned is always welcomed :)
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#1
do you want unorigional ps2 ports on your psp. do you want to buy an extra battery?

go for psp

do you want a decent battery life, different way of playing games?, simple fun addictive ones, affordable?

go for ds
#2
I ike the idea of the ds lite, purely because you can play homebrew without voiding the warranty!
#3
PSP, Every time.

Music, Movies, Internet, Games. Looks great, feels great.

Homebrew on the PSP is not a problem either, especially with the new modified 3.02SE-B Firmware.


:pirate: CJ :pirate:
#4
What is homebrew exactly? I understand it as putting your own os on it with emulator and playing 'backed up' games on memory, but surely thats a right pain and difficult to set up?

I've just bought a psp with most the games I mentioned up there for a bargain price :) Its firmware version 2.81, that homebrewable?
#5
nrps1
What is homebrew exactly? I understand it as putting your own os on it with emulator and playing 'backed up' games on memory, but surely thats a right pain and difficult to set up?

I've just bought a psp with most the games I mentioned up there for a bargain price :) Its firmware version 2.81, that homebrewable?

Homebrew is essentially just a politically correct name for downloaded pirate PSP games.

Altering the firmware on the PSP to play homebrew is pretty easy really. You just need to do a little googling, oh, and buy a BIG memory card!

:pirate: CJ :pirate:
#6
well this is the thing, i've got a 1gb memory card coming, but i dont really want to have to buy loads of 1gb sticks, might as well just buy the games for 14 quid (if u know where to look :) )
#7
cutthroat_jake
PSP, Every time.

Music, Movies, Internet, Games. Looks great, feels great.

Homebrew on the PSP is not a problem either, especially with the new modified 3.02SE-B Firmware.


:pirate: CJ :pirate:


I thought that too but movies are a hassle to get on, internet browser is poor and the music quality isn't too great.

Plus, don't you need a certain firmware to run custom firmware? One lower than the PSPs shipping now have?
#8
Owning both consoles, the DS would always be my first choice - as a portable console it's much better designed with no moving parts for the games, far better batterylife and much more robust. Its one cart wireless multiplayer is generally implement extremely well and makes for a lot of fun. I enjoy the games themselves as they tend to be something a bit different from the other platforms with some excellent implementations of the touch screen.

My main gripe with the DS is the cost of games, there's not many bargains to be had and the games tend to hold their price well.

The PSP is a much weaker portable console, the batterylife is poor, the UMD drive is noisy and slow plus the screen/casing can scratch very easily. It also suffers badly from relying on ports rather than original games and I think the media functionality is pretty much useless, it's file handling for mp3s and video files is very basic (it can't work with a memory stick straight from an SE phone because the files are in folders rather than the root) and the lack of touchscreen makes the browser pretty much useless.

On the positive side however, there are many games available cheap even in retail shops - the most I've paid is just 21 pounds for a game. Also, if you look past the obvious there are some truly outstanding games when they've been designed specifically to take advantage of the PSP. The Mercury games have kept me hooked, Lumines is of course good (second one is just 15 quid) and I love Every Extend Extra - it's a slightly odd concept but the bright colours show off the large, vibrant screen I just keep coming back.

John
#9
DannyL
I thought that too but movies are a hassle to get on, internet browser is poor and the music quality isn't too great.

Plus, don't you need a certain firmware to run custom firmware? One lower than the PSPs shipping now have?


The movies are a doddle to put on with the right app.
The music is great with decent earphones.

But you're right about the firmware, it's got to be downgraded first before installing the custom firmware, but that's no bother.
The PSP leet are always working on new ways of exploiting the PSPs "homebrew" abilities.

:pirate: CJ :pirate:
#10
Go for DS!
#11
I have a DS and love it (I'm 27). I used to have a psp, but sold it due to being bored of the official games. However I'm tempted to get one again for it's (proper) homebrew usage... Just emulators mainly. You sound like your not a great fan of platformers such as mario though, but then again the DS is amazingly diverse in it's game collection. Also, try giving animal crossing a litttle go on your gf's DS. You can move into her town, it's surprisingly fun! And you've never played mario kart??? Change that right away! Mario Kart DS is the best since the snes (probably better even) and is a great introduction to the game.

Oh yeah, just remembered, As others have said, I found battery life was the real killer of PSP enjoyment. Shame really!

cutthroat_jake
Homebrew is essentially just a politically correct name for downloaded pirate PSP games.

Sorry, I don't agree with that statement, and it would very much annoy a lot of homebrew developers.

Homebrew and piracy sit very uncomfortably next to eachother. A lot of homebrew developments wouldn't be possible without the piracy "push", but the homebrewers really don't want to associate with piracy as it allways destroys the, as they say "scene".

Some amazing homebrew software has been created for both the DS and the PSP, games, apps, and of course, emulators (which are legal in their own right).

Pirates tend to use the "homebrew... nudge nudge, wink wink" phrase as a little code to say that it runs pirated games. But the true homebrewers want nothing to do with this association. ..And unfortunately, homebrewers recieve a lot of stick because they appear guilty by association.

True homebrew is a massively enjoyable use for every recent console, and many people in this scene happily make good use of homebrew, yet stick only to legally owned games.

No offence meant to the above comment, I just feel it's important to know the difference.

(Sorry for that little rant). :thumbsup:
#12
I had a PSP (Imported from Japan before they came out in the UK) and it was a nice gadgety thing to have, but it never really got much playtime (games were poor PS2 ports, battery life was poor, loading times long)...

Bought a DS Lite after seeing one in action, sold my PSP, and I've been happily gaming on my DS ever since!

Phoenix Wright is awesome, and Elite Beat Agents is very very good fun :D
#13
Hmmm, I was sure on the psp and the great top 20 games it has, and much more tempted with it so bought it, but now seeing all the things you lot have said I'm not so sure! Seems to be a lot of DS people out there! Just the games, well, there dont seem to be as many top rated games I'm interested in with the DS, apart from Mario Kart really. I may have a go of the gf's animal crossing, and to be honest, I could just sell the psp if I'm not happy with it, as I got great prices on all the games/console so would easily get my money back....

Hmm, maybe the answer is buy both! ;)

Dont tempt me!

You can get bigger batteries (almost twice the capacity) that fit internally into the psp, which may solve some problems...
#14
And no pubjoe, not really into platformers, played super mario on nes many years ago, but they don't really do anything for me to be honest!
#15
The ds... def and it plays gameboy advance games too
#16
I'm 25 and own both. I really didn't like the original incarnation of the DS which is why I bought the PSP out in the states in 2005. Once the DS Lite arrived however I couldn't resist buying one.

It's a tough one to call really as the PSP games you have listed are absolutely brilliant and probably the same ones I would recommend to friends. Playing Wipeout and Ridge Racer on the train is just as exciting now as it was 18 months ago and the homebrew side makes the PSP rather excellent :) Indeed the PSP was my portable of choice for my trip to London this New Year.

The thing with the DS is it truly does offer you something a little bit different and I love the originality of the titles that have appeared on the system.

In summary I would probably say the DS is the better choice for a regular traveller given the logical case design and battery life. Whilst the PSP is better for the occasional traveller.
#17
Well I've never really been keen on Gameboy games, I prefer decent graphics generally speaking (although cannon fodder and swos still rate high for me :) )

With regards to MBeeching, I'm really looking forward to all these games, and from what you've said I've a reason to! Homebrew wise, I dont really see the need in getting emulators for old consoles really, and I'd need loads of large 4gb memory sticks to play 'naughty' games, which is about the same price as the games themselves.

I guess I can always get/play my other halfs games on her DS really if I see the need? Or just get the better counterparts that will undoubtedly come out for my Wii...

Journey wise, well I drive everywhere, so really I want the PSP for my night shifts and 'bedtime reading' hehe. I have bought a double capacity battery with charger that fits within the PSP internally, so hopefully I should get a good few more hours out of it :)

Yay, getting excited now, lol, I'm such a kid with electrical gadgets!
#18
DS only just
#19
nrps1
Homebrew wise, I dont really see the need in getting emulators for old consoles really, and I'd need loads of large 4gb memory sticks to play 'naughty' games, which is about the same price as the games themselves.


Snes/Megadrive/Neo Geo fun shouldn't be overlooked :) There's plenty of 'naughtiness' in the world of 1gb memsticks too!

nrps1
Yay, getting excited now, lol, I'm such a kid with electrical gadgets!


I'm sure you'll love it, which games are you picking up first? The three I find myself on most are Ridge Racer, Wipeout and Lumines. Loco Roco was one of the best games released last year and noone bought it. It's undeniably charming and the music is ace! You could probably get the Halloween and Xmas demo levels off the net to check it floats your boat :-D

Might be worth mentioning Tekken: Dark Resurrection too, it's damn good.
#20
I've got all the ones from the list I mentioned (plus Worms thats coming with the PSP) :D

Trying to cancel Lumines to get Lumines 2 but cant contact the people I bought it from for some reason, damn the website!

Tekken, I could be tempted, although I've not really been that interested in Tekken type games in the last 3 or 4 years to be fair..
#21
Secretly the first Lumines is the better version...
#22
MBeeching
Secretly the first Lumines is the better version...


Really? Well by the looks of it thats what I'm getting now anyway! lol

I like the idea of 'known' songs and video streaming backgrounds though!
#23
I can't say I've noticed much difference between them, at the core they're both pretty much the same game.

John
#24
I was in the same boat recently and couldnt decide between the psp and the ds. (i am 29)

I ended up opting for the ds as i am planning on buying a 360 or ps3 later in the year so if i want to play games with top end graphics etc and i owned a psp as well as one of the other machines i would always opt for the buying the game for the 360 or ps3 over the psp. Whereas the ds has games that are "different" and i think more fun.

HTH
#25
themadhaggis
I was in the same boat recently and couldnt decide between the psp and the ds. (i am 29)

I ended up opting for the ds as i am planning on buying a 360 or ps3 later in the year so if i want to play games with top end graphics etc and i owned a psp as well as one of the other machines i would always opt for the buying the game for the 360 or ps3 over the psp. Whereas the ds has games that are "different" and i think more fun.

HTH


Yes, but I've just got a Wii which is like a DS ;)

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