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Nintendo Switch spec sheet released

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There's not details on the CPU/GPU, though oO Credit to EuroGamer for the article Despite the fact that it’s now had two dedicated events there are still plenty of questions being asked abou…
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[helper] 4w, 1d agoPosted 4 weeks, 1 day ago
There's not details on the CPU/GPU, though oO

Credit to EuroGamer for the article

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Despite the fact that it’s now had two dedicated events there are still plenty of questions being asked about the Nintendo Switch. Fortunately, many of those questions now have some answers thanks to a new specifications section on the Nintendo UK site.

The page reveals and confirms details about the Switch tablet, dock, and Joy-Con controllers, as well as their straps and grip that have until now been pretty unclear.

So what do we know that we didn’t know before? Well, the weight of the console for one thing. Without the Joy-Con controllers the tablet weighs 297 grams and with them it weighs 398 grams, which makes it just slightly heavier than the 3DS XL which came in at around 336 grams.

Making things clear

We can also finally say with certainty that the 6.2 inch touchscreen of the tablet will offer 720p resolution while the video output when docked is 1920 x 1080 and 60 frames per second.

Good news for anyone lamenting the loss of the headphone jack in the latest smartphones – Nintendo is keeping it going here. Like the latest smartphones, though, the console’s 4310 mAh battery can’t be removed and any replacements will have to go through Nintendo.

With this battery Nintendo say you can expect to get more than 6 hours of play on the move. That said, this is dependent on software and usage conditions so if you’re playing a game that’s more demanding like the new Legend of Zelda title, Nintendo say you can expect to get around 3 hours out of a single charge. Fully re-charging from empty will apparently take around 3 hours when the console’s in sleep mode.

Less impressively the specs sheet also confirms the rumor that the Joy-Con grip that comes boxed with the console won’t charge the Joy-Con controllers – they’ll have to be attached to the console to charge unless you decide to purchase a charging Joy-Con grip separately.

Fortunately, this shouldn’t be too much of an issue since the controllers last around 20 hours before they need to be charged. Chances are, you’ll re-attach the controllers and charge the console in that time.

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There’s good news on the expanded memory front; the console will support micro SD and SDHC cards as well as the previously confirmed SDXC cards which gives plenty of options.

Outside of the hardware, we’re also given a peek at the console’s home menu which looks clean and easy to use. From the home menu it looks like playable games will appear as touchable tiles like on the 3DS home screen.

Users will also be able to switch between player accounts from here as well access the Nintendo eShop and any screenshots they’ve captured while playing.

The biggest thing we’re still waiting for information on in terms of hardware at the moment, then, is the CPU/GPU which on the specifications page is still only listed as a NVIDIA customized Tegra processor.

There’s also still much more we’d like to know about the planned online service. The console’s March release is fast approaching and though details are trickling out slowly, at least they’re coming.
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#2
Would love the Switch to have a Pascal chip, but Nintendo love to disappoint their fans quite a bit so I'm not getting my hopes up.

That said, I spend the majority of my time out of the house so if I could play GameCube, Wii and Wii U games on the go I'll be happy.

On another note. I don't really want to spend £25 on a charger. Are there any more reasonable alternatives?
#3
I would be interested to know how similar this architecture is to PC. As I understand, PS4 and especially Xbox1 have fairly similar architecture to PC making ports between all 3 platforms relatively straightforward. If this is very different, I think we'll see (again) a lack of 3rd party games on a Nintendo platform, since the porting is too much extra work for devs to dedicate resources. Of course, if it sells like hot cakes, it will be a different story.

Now, that's not a problem to me, as I'll be buying this at some stage since I want to play Nintendo games, and share this experience with my young children. However, it could be a major setback to mass market if 3rd party is lacking again.
#4
Cheers for the info/post Buzz..

Anyone know if digital games are to be tied to the actual machine / or an individual user account?
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paulsalmon77
I would be interested to know how similar this architecture is to PC. As I understand, PS4 and especially Xbox1 have fairly similar architecture to PC making ports between all 3 platforms relatively straightforward. If this is very different, I think we'll see (again) a lack of 3rd party games on a Nintendo platform, since the porting is too much extra work for devs to dedicate resources. Of course, if it sells like hot cakes, it will be a different story.
Now, that's not a problem to me, as I'll be buying this at some stage since I want to play Nintendo games, and share this experience with my young children. However, it could be a major setback to mass market if 3rd party is lacking again.

PS4 and XBox1 are x86 based systems. The Switch will be ARMv8 based. It will most likely be a Tegra X1 shrunk down from 28nm to Samsung's 14nm finFET. This will now make it more suitable as it will be cooler and consume less power.

When docked I'm not expecting it to scale the game at 1080p. I'm expecting frame doubling technologies and scaling to 1080p.
So on one cycle you would get 720p frame on handheld. When docked 720p frame (scaled to 1080p) then another 720p frame (scaled to 1080p). So exactly the same for the game engine to produce and using the Maxwell cores to scale it.

Notice you have to be online to to use the SD card. Nintendo desperately trying to stop the hackers.

While I expect a fair amount of 3rd party games to appear 95% I suspect will be cheap Android ports.
1 Like #6
Ninbox4
Cheers for the info/post Buzz..
Anyone know if digital games are to be tied to the actual machine / or an individual user account?

Someone on here recently said yes, wont be tied to a machine, but to an account. Can't remember who or where though :) Informative thread!

Edited By: noahsdad on Jan 30, 2017 12:55
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What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.

If so this is a massive issue.
#8
Its basically a Nvidia sheild TV with some extra bells and whistles and a Nintendo badge!
custom built it may be, it's still got similar properties to the existing Tegra X1
That means the Switch will have a 256-core Maxwell GPU, an octa-core processor and will be capable of running video in 4K at 60 frames per second. Weirdly though, the latter is unlikely as the Switch is said to have a HDMI 1.4 output which is only capable of Ultra HD video playback at 30fps.

Undocked, the Switch's GPU only runs up to 307.2MHz. Docked, it is able to run at up to 768MHz.

I am quite underwhelmed by this latest Nintendo offering and worried they will struggle to compete in two markets at once (home and handheld), how will new 3ds and xl gamers feel when they see all the great new exclusive games coming out for nvidia switch whilst they are left out! This risks angering current Nintendo handheld owners.
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#9
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.

If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.
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Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.

And as a portable device who would want to carry that charging joycon grip, etc?
#12
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.

I didn't even know the Joy-cons needed batteries. I had thought they might have had a small Lithium battery inside. I liked that the Wii U Mote used AA batteries as I used high spec rechargeable batteries that lasted for ages. If your away for an overnight with your Switch, you do then have the option of taking a small battery charger. AA batteries charge quick these days and on tiny devices also. You even have the option of taking spare pre-charged rechargeable batteries with you, again not a big space requirement for that. Don't see any battery issues or probs with the Joy-Cons myself.

The weight of the Switch console really impresses me to be honest. That it weighs approx. 30g less than a 3DS XL without the Joy-Cons attached or just 60g more than a 3DS XL with Joy-Cons attached.... I have changed my mind on hearing that info about the 3DS. I do think the 3DS has had it now.
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#14
dtovey89
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.

And as a portable device who would want to carry that charging joycon grip, etc?


The joy cons will charge when they are attached to the tablet/console and you plug it in to charge via the ac adapter.

The joy cons last for 20hrs and the console a maximum of 6 so you are going to be plugging it into the wall at some point.

Hope this helps
#15
nicblaney
dtovey89
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.
And as a portable device who would want to carry that charging joycon grip, etc?
The joy cons will charge when they are attached to the tablet/console and you plug it in to charge via the ac adapter.
The joy cons last for 20hrs and the console a maximum of 6 so you are going to be plugging it into the wall at some point.
Hope this helps

So the Joy Cons are lithium type battery with no AA's or anything like that?
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How many do you want to buy?
#17
noahsdad
nicblaney
dtovey89
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.
And as a portable device who would want to carry that charging joycon grip, etc?
The joy cons will charge when they are attached to the tablet/console and you plug it in to charge via the ac adapter.
The joy cons last for 20hrs and the console a maximum of 6 so you are going to be plugging it into the wall at some point.
Hope this helps
So the Joy Cons are lithium type battery with no AA's or anything like that?
Correct - there's never been anything credible to suggest that it would be anything other than this way.

Moonwolf1976
I am quite underwhelmed by this latest Nintendo offering and worried they will struggle to compete in two markets at once (home and handheld), how will new 3ds and xl gamers feel when they see all the great new exclusive games coming out for nvidia switch whilst they are left out! This risks angering current Nintendo handheld owners.
sources
It's surely little different from any other new 'generation' of system? In most cases, backwards-compatibility isn't available (and we don't yet know for certain that there won't be any backwards-compatibility for digitally-owned games, albeit this seems unlikely). There will still be at least a few new 3DS releases after the release of the Switch.


Edited By: Illusionary on Jan 30, 2017 15:27: x
#18
Illusionary
It's surely little different from any other new 'generation' of system? In most cases, backwards-compatibility isn't available (and we don't yet know for certain that there won't be any backwards-compatibility for digitally-owned games, albeit this seems unlikely). There will still be at least a few new 3DS releases after the release of the Switch.

I can't see the 3DS being abandoned either. However when Nintendo have their eyes firmly on a new project we have seen in the past other existing things do inevitably suffer in terms of quantity and quality of games. I won't be abandoning the 3DS anytime soon as I play it more than the Wii U, but a long period of comments like "the 3DS is dead" comments is guaranteed on here!
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noahsdad
Illusionary
It's surely little different from any other new 'generation' of system? In most cases, backwards-compatibility isn't available (and we don't yet know for certain that there won't be any backwards-compatibility for digitally-owned games, albeit this seems unlikely). There will still be at least a few new 3DS releases after the release of the Switch.
I can't see the 3DS being abandoned either. However when Nintendo have their eyes firmly on a new project we have seen in the past other existing things do inevitably suffer in terms of quantity and quality of games. I won't be abandoning the 3DS anytime soon as I play it more than the Wii U, but a long period of comments like "the 3DS is dead" comments is guaranteed on here!

I think if Nintendo had their eyes firmly on this project (the Switch), the launch lineup would have been a lot better.

I think the 3DS is fine. Hell, I think even the Wii U may resurrect :D
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noahsdad
nicblaney
dtovey89
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.
And as a portable device who would want to carry that charging joycon grip, etc?
The joy cons will charge when they are attached to the tablet/console and you plug it in to charge via the ac adapter.
The joy cons last for 20hrs and the console a maximum of 6 so you are going to be plugging it into the wall at some point.
Hope this helps

So the Joy Cons are lithium type battery with no AA's or anything like that?


Yes 100% built in lithium batteries. You should check out Reddit r/Nintendoswitch. Great source for keeping up with all the latest rumours and arguments as well as some actual useful detail and info
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noahsdad
MBeeching
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I'm as big a Nintendo fan as anybody (I actually have two of these pre-ordered) but even I'm struggling to understand who this appeals to...

The launch line up makes the Vita line up look pretty special it's so barren.
It's way underpowered for a home console launching two years after the XB1 and PS4.
The battery life is awful.
It's an expensive outlay once you throw in the peripherals.
There are no games to play on it (said twice in case you missed it).
It's already lacking 3rd party support, EA won't develop separate games for it so you'll likely get PS3 and 360 ports.
Those console won't be supported any longer so you'll end up with a WII U (again).

Nintendo's insistence on making a profit on hardware will be the nail in the coffin - the best thing they can do is knock £50 off it or bundle it with a game or two and give it access to the virtual library including GC games. As it is - it'll sell out on day 1 but there will be a mass influx of people trading them back in again if the software isn't forthcoming.
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Flodd
noahsdad
MBeeching
Here are some voting buttons...https://s23.postimg.org/o4vlr7csb/cold_all_day.png
Here is another party political broadcast, on behalf of balance, impartiality and all parties having an equal say this is an alternative button for the non-Nintendo-bashers/Switch-Bashers/other-mainstream-console-fanboys. (delete as appropriate).http://www.thevortex.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/hot-button.jpg
I'm as big a Nintendo fan as anybody (I actually have two of these pre-ordered) but even I'm struggling to understand who this appeals to...
The launch line up makes the Vita line up look pretty special it's so barren.
It's way underpowered for a home console launching two years after the XB1 and PS4.
The battery life is awful.
It's an expensive outlay once you throw in the peripherals.
There are no games to play on it (said twice in case you missed it).
It's already lacking 3rd party support, EA won't develop separate games for it so you'll likely get PS3 and 360 ports.
Those console won't be supported any longer so you'll end up with a WII U (again).
Nintendo's insistence on making a profit on hardware will be the nail in the coffin - the best thing they can do is knock £50 off it or bundle it with a game or two and give it access to the virtual library including GC games. As it is - it'll sell out on day 1 but there will be a mass influx of people trading them back in again if the software isn't forthcoming.

What about your list of positives and good things though? If your buying 2 of them, the POSITIVES must out number the NEGATIVES ? Like you I will be buying 2 or 3 of this console. I have bought more than 1 of the same console since the DS and 3DS. Nintendo have been very clever, as they are offering a unique multiplayer gaming experience with the Switch, which is very attractive, particularly if you buy a few of the units.
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noahsdad
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.
The weight of the Switch console really impresses me to be honest. That it weighs approx. 30g less than a 3DS XL without the Joy-Cons attached or just 60g more than a 3DS XL with Joy-Cons attached.... I have changed my mind on hearing that info about the 3DS. I do think the 3DS has had it now.
Yeah that's irrelevant I think as it doesn't work portably without joycons attached as their is not a touchscreen on this. 3ds xl is a much better 'proper' portable console in my humble opinion.

Edited By: Moonwolf1976 on Jan 30, 2017 16:57
#24
MBeeching
As you're such a fan I have designed a console in your honour!

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How many do you want to buy?
:D
#25
Moonwolf1976
Yeah that's irrelevant I think as it doesn't work portably without joycons attached as their is not a touchscreen on this. 3ds xl is a much better 'proper' portable console in my humble opinion.

From the original thread post (4th paragraph from the bottom): "Outside of the hardware, we’re also given a peek at the console’s home menu which looks clean and easy to use. From the home menu it looks like playable games will appear as touchable tiles like on the 3DS home screen."
#26
Illusionary
noahsdad
nicblaney
dtovey89
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.
And as a portable device who would want to carry that charging joycon grip, etc?
The joy cons will charge when they are attached to the tablet/console and you plug it in to charge via the ac adapter.
The joy cons last for 20hrs and the console a maximum of 6 so you are going to be plugging it into the wall at some point.
Hope this helps
So the Joy Cons are lithium type battery with no AA's or anything like that?
Correct - there's never been anything credible to suggest that it would be anything other than this way.

Moonwolf1976
I am quite underwhelmed by this latest Nintendo offering and worried they will struggle to compete in two markets at once (home and handheld), how will new 3ds and xl gamers feel when they see all the great new exclusive games coming out for nvidia switch whilst they are left out! This risks angering current Nintendo handheld owners.
sources
It's surely little different from any other new 'generation' of system? In most cases, backwards-compatibility isn't available (and we don't yet know for certain that there won't be any backwards-compatibility for digitally-owned games, albeit this seems unlikely). There will still be at least a few new 3DS releases after the release of the Switch.

Yeah but what I mean is they bought out a 'NEW' 3ds xl with more power promising new games that would only work on this new NEW 3ds but have so far only released Xenoblade chronicles for it, where's the rest, if they abandon it now we have all be conned into buying the New 3ds's when we would have been better saving all that cash and having a switch instead.

Just one **** game is not enough excuse to con folk to get a new machine,they need to get sued unless they release more games like promised. How about that Zelda and a splattoon, they would be good new 3ds titles :D

Edited By: Moonwolf1976 on Jan 30, 2017 17:12
#27
noahsdad
Illusionary
It's surely little different from any other new 'generation' of system? In most cases, backwards-compatibility isn't available (and we don't yet know for certain that there won't be any backwards-compatibility for digitally-owned games, albeit this seems unlikely). There will still be at least a few new 3DS releases after the release of the Switch.
I can't see the 3DS being abandoned either. However when Nintendo have their eyes firmly on a new project we have seen in the past other existing things do inevitably suffer in terms of quantity and quality of games. I won't be abandoning the 3DS anytime soon as I play it more than the Wii U, but a long period of comments like "the 3DS is dead" comments is guaranteed on here!
Yes but what about new 3ds it's only got one dedicated game Xenoblade chronicles! Yes I know it plays the 3ds back catalogue, but where the promised exclusives in for NEW 3ds? Nintendo have turned into con artists.
#28
noahsdad
Moonwolf1976
Yeah that's irrelevant I think as it doesn't work portably without joycons attached as their is not a touchscreen on this. 3ds xl is a much better 'proper' portable console in my humble opinion.
From the original thread post (4th paragraph from the bottom): "Outside of the hardware, we’re also given a peek at the console’s home menu which looks clean and easy to use. From the home menu it looks like playable games will appear as touchable tiles like on the 3DS home screen."
No one knows yet but no one is shown touching a screen in any of the trailer videos for switch, so it's being guessed it won't be touch screen, and you scroll through the tiles by moving with the analogue stick like you also can do in 3ds.

Edited By: Moonwolf1976 on Jan 30, 2017 17:19
#29
Moonwolf1976
Illusionary
noahsdad
nicblaney
dtovey89
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.
And as a portable device who would want to carry that charging joycon grip, etc?
The joy cons will charge when they are attached to the tablet/console and you plug it in to charge via the ac adapter.
The joy cons last for 20hrs and the console a maximum of 6 so you are going to be plugging it into the wall at some point.
Hope this helps
So the Joy Cons are lithium type battery with no AA's or anything like that?
Correct - there's never been anything credible to suggest that it would be anything other than this way.
Moonwolf1976
I am quite underwhelmed by this latest Nintendo offering and worried they will struggle to compete in two markets at once (home and handheld), how will new 3ds and xl gamers feel when they see all the great new exclusive games coming out for nvidia switch whilst they are left out! This risks angering current Nintendo handheld owners. sources
It's surely little different from any other new 'generation' of system? In most cases, backwards-compatibility isn't available (and we don't yet know for certain that there won't be any backwards-compatibility for digitally-owned games, albeit this seems unlikely). There will still be at least a few new 3DS releases after the release of the Switch.
Yeah but what I mean is they bought out a 'NEW' 3ds xl with more power promising new games that would only work on this new NEW 3ds but have so far only released Xenoblade chronicles for it, where's the rest, if they abandon it now we have all be conned into buying the New 3ds's when we would have been better saving all that cash and having a switch instead. One **** game is not enough excuse to con folk to get a new machine,they need to get sued unless they release more games like promised. How about that Zelda and a splattoon, they would be good new 3ds titles :D

I haven't seen any video interviews or read any public statements or transcripts of these "promises" myself. There are no illusions or trickery like you make about to get people to buy a new 2nd gen 3DS XL.

Your buying a better spec model of 3DS XL if you got for a new 2nd gen model. Your buying built in NFC (Amiibo support), better battery chemistry, some say improved controls although I say more control options. I believe more NEW 3DS XL games are on the way. Splatoon would not be a shock now some form of Mario Maker and Wooly Yoshi's World have made it to 3DS.

The real issue is with the inferior tech 2DS, Nintendo are far from going out of the way to give consumers, particularly new to gaming consumers, all the information to make a console purchase decision. People are buying these units thinking it is the only way to avoid their kids 3D gaming. That you could fairly critique.
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Moonwolf1976
noahsdad
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.
The weight of the Switch console really impresses me to be honest. That it weighs approx. 30g less than a 3DS XL without the Joy-Cons attached or just 60g more than a 3DS XL with Joy-Cons attached.... I have changed my mind on hearing that info about the 3DS. I do think the 3DS has had it now.
Yeah that's irrelevant I think as it doesn't work portably without joycons attached as their is not a touchscreen on this. 3ds xl is a much better 'proper' portable console in my humble opinion.
The system can be used portably with any controller configuration - hence the kickstand.

Moonwolf1976
noahsdad
Illusionary
It's surely little different from any other new 'generation' of system? In most cases, backwards-compatibility isn't available (and we don't yet know for certain that there won't be any backwards-compatibility for digitally-owned games, albeit this seems unlikely). There will still be at least a few new 3DS releases after the release of the Switch.
I can't see the 3DS being abandoned either. However when Nintendo have their eyes firmly on a new project we have seen in the past other existing things do inevitably suffer in terms of quantity and quality of games. I won't be abandoning the 3DS anytime soon as I play it more than the Wii U, but a long period of comments like "the 3DS is dead" comments is guaranteed on here!
Yes but what about new 3ds it's only got one dedicated game Xenoblade chronicles! Yes I know it plays the 3ds back catalogue, but where the promised exclusives in for NEW 3ds? Nintendo have turned into con artists.
It's not *just* one game that sees benefits from the New 3DS. It's a fairly small sub-set of the 3DS's catalogue, granted, but Hyrule Warriors, Monster Hunter Generations and Super Smash Brothers all benefit significantly. SNES Virtual Console games also require the New 3DS.
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noahsdad
Moonwolf1976
Illusionary
noahsdad
nicblaney
dtovey89
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.
And as a portable device who would want to carry that charging joycon grip, etc?
The joy cons will charge when they are attached to the tablet/console and you plug it in to charge via the ac adapter.
The joy cons last for 20hrs and the console a maximum of 6 so you are going to be plugging it into the wall at some point.
Hope this helps
So the Joy Cons are lithium type battery with no AA's or anything like that?
Correct - there's never been anything credible to suggest that it would be anything other than this way.
Moonwolf1976
I am quite underwhelmed by this latest Nintendo offering and worried they will struggle to compete in two markets at once (home and handheld), how will new 3ds and xl gamers feel when they see all the great new exclusive games coming out for nvidia switch whilst they are left out! This risks angering current Nintendo handheld owners. sources
It's surely little different from any other new 'generation' of system? In most cases, backwards-compatibility isn't available (and we don't yet know for certain that there won't be any backwards-compatibility for digitally-owned games, albeit this seems unlikely). There will still be at least a few new 3DS releases after the release of the Switch.
Yeah but what I mean is they bought out a 'NEW' 3ds xl with more power promising new games that would only work on this new NEW 3ds but have so far only released Xenoblade chronicles for it, where's the rest, if they abandon it now we have all be conned into buying the New 3ds's when we would have been better saving all that cash and having a switch instead. One **** game is not enough excuse to con folk to get a new machine,they need to get sued unless they release more games like promised. How about that Zelda and a splattoon, they would be good new 3ds titles :D
The real issue is with the inferior tech 2DS, Nintendo are far from going out of the way to give consumers, particularly new to gaming consumers, all the information to make a console purchase decision. People are buying these units thinking it is the only way to avoid their kids 3D gaming. That you could fairly critique.

Can you please stop knocking the 2DS its a great little machine. You are the ONLY person on HUKD with this opinion. So please shut up, or better still get suspended again(banned would be better).


Edited By: jaypr on Jan 30, 2017 18:16: Edit
#32
jaypr
noahsdad
Moonwolf1976
Illusionary
noahsdad
nicblaney
dtovey89
Moonwolf1976
dtovey89
What about if you took the handheld on holiday and the joy-con controllers ran out of battery?
It sounds like these can only be charged when attached to the device in the grip.
If so this is a massive issue.
people are going to have to fork out yet again for the 'charging' version of the joycon grip another blooming £29.99!! This is going to be a very costly machine to own.
And as a portable device who would want to carry that charging joycon grip, etc?
The joy cons will charge when they are attached to the tablet/console and you plug it in to charge via the ac adapter.
The joy cons last for 20hrs and the console a maximum of 6 so you are going to be plugging it into the wall at some point.
Hope this helps
So the Joy Cons are lithium type battery with no AA's or anything like that?
Correct - there's never been anything credible to suggest that it would be anything other than this way.
Moonwolf1976
I am quite underwhelmed by this latest Nintendo offering and worried they will struggle to compete in two markets at once (home and handheld), how will new 3ds and xl gamers feel when they see all the great new exclusive games coming out for nvidia switch whilst they are left out! This risks angering current Nintendo handheld owners. sources
It's surely little different from any other new 'generation' of system? In most cases, backwards-compatibility isn't available (and we don't yet know for certain that there won't be any backwards-compatibility for digitally-owned games, albeit this seems unlikely). There will still be at least a few new 3DS releases after the release of the Switch.
Yeah but what I mean is they bought out a 'NEW' 3ds xl with more power promising new games that would only work on this new NEW 3ds but have so far only released Xenoblade chronicles for it, where's the rest, if they abandon it now we have all be conned into buying the New 3ds's when we would have been better saving all that cash and having a switch instead. One **** game is not enough excuse to con folk to get a new machine,they need to get sued unless they release more games like promised. How about that Zelda and a splattoon, they would be good new 3ds titles :D
The real issue is with the inferior tech 2DS, Nintendo are far from going out of the way to give consumers, particularly new to gaming consumers, all the information to make a console purchase decision. People are buying these units thinking it is the only way to avoid their kids 3D gaming. That you could fairly critique.
Can you please stop knocking the 2DS its a great little machine. You are the ONLY person on HUKD with this opinion. So please shut up, or better still get suspended again(banned would be better).

No sorry, I have an opinion on the 2DS and I present it well and offer some good balance. Note I never brought 3DS gaming up here, someone else did. Re my short 1 day suspension that was not related to thread discussion, lets not go there, your not allowed to talk about these things as I have discovered, part of the HUKD T&C.


Illusionary
SNES Virtual Console games also require the New 3DS.

Interesting one that? Is it really because emulation sometimes requires more processing power than you would think as some suggest. Or it more of a Nintendo just giving the New (2nd gen) 3DS/3DSXL units something exclusive to make you spend a little more on the newer tech? I genuinely have no idea which, just speculating.
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noahsdad
Illusionary
SNES Virtual Console games also require the New 3DS.
Interesting one that? Is it really because emulation sometimes requires more processing power than you would think as some suggest. Or it more of a Nintendo just giving the New (2nd gen) 3DS/3DSXL units something exclusive to make you spend a little more on the newer tech? I genuinely have no idea which, just speculating.
The official position is that the emulation does indeed require the additional processing power of the New 3DS. I'd be inclined to believe that - in terms of profitability, the wider buying audience for SNES games if available on the 'old' 3DS would likely outweigh any increased sales of the New 3DS system due to their exclusivity.
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Noahsdad you claim to be impartial yet are the first to assume people who disagree with you are "ps4 fanboys". You constantly mock those who play Fifa and CoD.

It's clear for all to see you are the biggest Nintendo fanboy on here. I love Nintendo but I recognise their flaws - this console is overpriced for the specs, the lack of games at launch is worrying, and the accessories are ridiculously overpriced.

You seem to ask an awful lot of questions when all your answers can be found on the numerous subreddits.

I can't believe you are still harking on about the 2DS. It's a great alternative and very cheap. Your argument is along the lines of stable 3D on the new 3DS line and the shape of it. I have both. The new 3D is an improvement but I still find myself turning it off. The 2DS also feels very sturdy and I could see why a parent would opt for it over a 3DS.
#35
This launch line up apart from Zelda (a wii u game?) is atrocious not only am I worried about the future of my New 3ds but Nintendos Switch now seems doomed too, here's just a few titles Nintendo hopes you'll buy, after you have already paid £280 for the console itself! I hope these are not all full price games!!

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Edited By: Moonwolf1976 on Jan 30, 2017 22:17
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720p screen is really very poor. Only reason I'm not getting one without a play on first. I realised higher resolution means more battery usage, but I had a 1080p phone in early 2013 with a smaller screen so it really does blow.
#37
WILL THIS PLAY MIDNIGHT RESISTANCE BETTER THAN MY C64?

If yes then I'm in.
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Graham1979
WILL THIS PLAY MIDNIGHT RESISTANCE BETTER THAN MY C64?
If yes then I'm in.

Looking at the spec sheet and the launch titles. It looks like it may just well do, at a push (_;)
#39
dtovey89
Noahsdad you claim to be impartial yet are the first to assume people who disagree with you are "ps4 fanboys".

No I don't not at all, just some and certain individuals who are PS or XB (or both) fanboys. They are the ones that make the comparisons to these mainstream consoles, or have known history of doing so.

dtovey89
You constantly mock those who play Fifa and CoD.


Not at all, have not played the latest versions if those franchises, but both brilliant games (have said that before, so lets not ignore that).

dtovey89
It's clear for all to see you are the biggest Nintendo fanboy on here. I love Nintendo but I recognise their flaws - this console is overpriced for the specs, the lack of games at launch is worrying, and the accessories are ridiculously overpriced.

I don't mind anyone calling me a Nintendo fanboy :) Bear in mind other the 2DS, I regularly bash the Eshop, some of the bad Wii U game titles (Mario Tennis, Animal Crossing and others to name a couple), I have expressed my disappointment at many aspects of MK8 Wii U and now MK8 Deluxe Switch. I recently slated Nintendo for their lazy effort with the programming on Paper Mario Wii U on a deal thread. To be honest I could go on and on and write pages about my HUKD criticisms of Nintendo. I am not accusing you of being selective with the info you choose to use, maybe you just don't see all the particular Nintendo threads.

dtovey89

You seem to ask an awful lot of questions when all your answers can be found on the numerous subreddits.


Seriously! Your even throwing I ask questions at me :) You can report me to HUKD at http://www.hotukdeals.com/contact

dtovey89
I can't believe you are still harking on about the 2DS.

I offer balance and also good info to the 2DS when it comes up. Often others bring it up. Ironic you give me this grief, but those that plague the Switch threads recently with their anti-Nintendo nonsense get away with all sorts of garbage. Again as above you can report me to HUKD for harking on about the 2DS and any other crimes.

dtovey89
The 2DS also feels very sturdy and I could see why a parent would opt for it over a 3DS.

The 3DS / 3DS XL units are incredibly sturdy also. They are ever less likely to be damaged due to screens and control buttons being protected when closed. A feature not available on the "sturdy" 2DS unit.

PS have a nice day, no hard feelings from me :)

Edited By: noahsdad on Jan 31, 2017 08:12
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noahsdad

PS have a nice day, no hard feelings from me :)

Oh, it's not personal but myself like a few others on here are growing tired of your biased posts.


Edited By: dtovey89 on Jan 31, 2017 09:18

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