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Not enough black people on bbc?

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9y, 8m agoPosted 9 years, 8 months ago
Just been looking on the BBC Points Of View website and came across the subject below -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbpointsofview/F1951566?thread=4103362&skip=0&show=20

Basicaly it about a black person who appeared on POV and complained that there was not enough black people on BBC programmes. Forum members have posted their opinions. Have a quick read and post yours here.

Mine is that there is enough black people on the BBC if the percentage of non-whites living in UK are correct -

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=455
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9y, 8m agoPosted 9 years, 8 months ago
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In cases like this, I feel that a lot of the time, people think that equality means...

Same amount of black people as white
Same amount of gay people as straight
Same amount of ginger haired people as brown/blonde/bald etc etc.

I dont care what colour/sexuality people are on TV, radio, in magazines, applying for jobs etc. The best person for the job/position should be given it. End of. If that means 99.9% of people on TV are white, or 96.7% of firefighters are ginger, then so be it.

But I do feel that things are getting too PC nowadays. eg, more than average ethnic minorities appearing on TV because people are so afraid of being called racist.
#2
woooooooooooooah! now your shattering my firemen dreams....ginger ....noooooooooo!! lol joke :whistling:
[admin]#3
I think the BBC is a big enough corporation to not be stupid enough to encourage racial inequality.... I agree with Ian182.
#4
juliet_bravo
I think the BBC is a big enough corporation to not be stupid enough to encourage racial inequality.... I agree with Ian182.


Although "big" and "smart" dont always go hand in hand when talking about corporations. Some would say they rarely go hand in hand!!
#5
LOL They need to watch Balamory they have been PC to the extreme with every minority represented.
[admin]#6
Gaia
LOL They need to watch Balamory they have been PC to the extreme with every minority represented.



I was going to post that!!!!!! I thought noone would know what I meant :giggle:
#7
Gaia
LOL They need to watch Balamory they have been PC to the extreme with every minority represented.


I dont claim to be an expert on Balamory, but surely it detracts from the programme when you have every race under the sun represented? Must be like the opening ceremony at the olympic games!!
1 Like #8
I think that putting a character into a programme, just so that you have someone from each minority is less PC than not having one in the first place!

I wouldnt feel offended if there was a programme with no-one white on it (look at the kumars....) I would only be offended if they were making racist comments.
#9
kelly_o_fanatic
I think that putting a character into a programme, just so that you have someone from each minority is less PC than not having one in the first place!

I wouldnt feel offended if there was a programme with no-one white on it (look at the kumars....) I would only be offended if they were making racist comments.


Completely agree. :thumbsup:
#10
juliet_bravo
I was going to post that!!!!!! I thought noone would know what I meant :giggle:

Are there any Russians in Balamory (don't think so!). I am offended! The program is racist! Hand me the 6-fugures cheque please!

:-D
#11
There's a person on Ballamory in a wheel chair, what about deaf and blind people....outrageous!!! lol
[admin]#12
Kommunist
Are there any Russians in Balamory (don't think so!). I am offended! The program is racist! Hand me the 6-fugures cheque please!

:-D



:giggle:
#13
If we're all supposed to be equal as human beings then it shouldn't matter whether you're black, white or whatever.
#14
Gaia
LOL They need to watch Balamory they have been PC to the extreme with every minority represented.


Exactly. Completely barmy. I've never been to a Scottish Island and seen so many ethnic minorities! That said there is an Indian family running a restaurant on Tobermory so by rights there should be some on Balamory.
#15
Isn't Balamory the kids show where even the houses are painted every colour under the sun?
#16
Ditto
Isn't Balamory the kids show where even the houses are painted every colour under the sun?


Yep! But I don't think there's a black house.
#17
A Russian on a scottish island would be shot for being a spy Kommunist :p.

Glad I am not the only one forced to watch CBeebies Juliet!!

Actually my mistake ... no goths in balamory hence prolly why there are no black houses :thumbsup:

Should PC plum not live in the pink house?:whistling:
#18
don't know about there being not enough black people on tv, I reakon that there is a balance in place but you cannot please every person all of the time.

though in my opinion there are alot of idiots on tv. then again if they're not on tv I have no one to complain about.
#19
Gaia
A Russian on a scottish island would be shot for being a spy Kommunist :p.

I've got a sneaky suspicion that English would be actually in more danger that Russian in Scotland :whistling:

I had an interesting conversation in Wales some time ago.

My car broke down in Northern Wales (that was Renault for the record) and I called AA rescue team.
When AA truck arrived, the guy asked me where I want my car to be towed to. I told him that I live in England and want car to be towed to town where I live. He gave me 'that' look and asked: 'Are you English'?
"No", I replied. Then his look became even more aggressive:
"Are you French then?".
"Nope!"
"So who you are then?" he asked.
"I am Russian".
"Oh, I love Russians, they are one of the best people on the planet!" he exclaimed.
"How many Russians have you met in your life?" I asked.
"You are the first one, but you are not English and not French, so you must be a good guy", he replied.
:-D
#20
Ian182
In cases like this, I feel that a lot of the time, people think that equality means...

Same amount of black people as white
Same amount of gay people as straight
Same amount of ginger haired people as brown/blonde/bald etc etc.

I dont care what colour/sexuality people are on TV, radio, in magazines, applying for jobs etc. The best person for the job/position should be given it. End of. If that means 99.9% of people on TV are white, or 96.7% of firefighters are ginger, then so be it.

But I do feel that things are getting too PC nowadays. eg, more than average ethnic minorities appearing on TV because people are so afraid of being called racist.


Well said, spot on:thumbsup:
#21
I did work experience in a nursery and was surprised to find that, although they had dolls prams and a house and stuff, there was no doll.

I asked them about it and they said it would be too expensive because they would have to buy a black doll, a white doll, a blind doll, a doll with a hearing aid, a doll in a wheel chair......

Rules are supposedly in place, those that already have dolls do not have to add to the collection, but if the place doesnt have a doll and wishes to purchase one then they must make sure every minority is covered....

I was totally disgusted! In the end I bought them a couple of dolls - since they were gifts to the nursery that was ok!
#22
kelly_o_fanatic
I asked them about it and they said it would be too expensive because they would have to buy a black doll, a white doll, a blind doll, a doll with a hearing aid, a doll in a wheel chair......

Rules are supposedly in place, those that already have dolls do not have to add to the collection, but if the place doesnt have a doll and wishes to purchase one then they must make sure every minority is covered...


Is this for real??? This is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!! Makes me soooo cross!!

:x :x :x
#23
Makes me soooo cross!!

You just said the C-word. How un-PC!
#24
Kommunist
You just said the C-word. How un-PC!


Sorry, I meant cross, jewish star, khoran etc.

Also, I did say sooooo. I think all the other letters of the alphabet are jealous of 'o' and feeling discriminated against. So.....

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#25
Ian182
Sorry, I meant cross, jewish star, khoran etc.

Also, I did say sooooo. I think all the other letters of the alphabet are jealous of 'o' and feeling discriminated against. So.....

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#26
Yup, totally true! I couldnt believe it - PC is going waaaaaaay too far!

My brother is a teacher and not allowed to mark work in red pen, incase it upsets the child! He has to use green pen, also no answer is wrong, it is not correct
[admin]#27
kelly_o_fanatic
Yup, totally true! I couldnt believe it - PC is going waaaaaaay too far!

My brother is a teacher and not allowed to mark work in red pen, incase it upsets the child! He has to use green pen, also no answer is wrong, it is not correct



I've heard that before- my aunt is a teacher..
It's just ridiculous. I also did my work placement as a nursery nurse (8 years ago now) and back then I was shocked to be told that if a child falls over you're not allowed to pick them up or comfort them... we had to wait for the poor little things to pick themselves up. I suppose that seems fairly normal now though.
[mod]#28
This reminds me of a couple of years ago when my friend applied for the police force. He was refused on the grounds that they'd filled their curent quota of white officers and were currently only looking to recruit Asian officers.
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#29
juliet_bravo
I've heard that before- my aunt is a teacher..
It's just ridiculous. I also did my work placement as a nursery nurse (8 years ago now) and back then I was shocked to be told that if a child falls over you're not allowed to pick them up or comfort them... we had to wait for the poor little things to pick themselves up. I suppose that seems fairly normal now though.


Yup, if a child is upset you have to leave them! Is disgusting!

One nursery nurse had been at the same nursery for over 30 years without a problem, and then got a formal warning. Her crime? Telling a child she was pretty (it was her birthday and she had a new dress on) apparently that is sexist because you wouldnt say pretty to a boy. She should have said the child looked smart.
[mod]#30
juliet_bravo
I've heard that before- my aunt is a teacher..
It's just ridiculous. I also did my work placement as a nursery nurse (8 years ago now) and back then I was shocked to be told that if a child falls over you're not allowed to pick them up or comfort them... we had to wait for the poor little things to pick themselves up. I suppose that seems fairly normal now though.


Thank god that doesn't happen at my little boys nusery. He fell off the slide the other week and apparently they were queing up to give him cuddles, he loved it and said that he enjoyed it and hopes if he falls off the slide again, he'll get lots of cuddles of the pretty ladies again. :giggle:

ps - plus they call him gorgeous, is that sexual harrasment? can i sue?? ;-) :giggle:
#31
At school i remember the maths books had strange names (to me anyway), Like one "Jahid" (Jahid has 20 blocks, Asif has 5 etc), I said i didn't know how to pronounce them, When i asked why don't they use British names, I was told everyone needs to be treated equally.

Completly stupid IMHO, It just made everything more confusing!

Oh and those names are now British to!!!

Its sad how everyone now has to bend over backwards to be "PC", I'm in no way racist, I treat everyone equal regardless of colour, religion etc, But i don't understand why we need to fit around them (And the old culture pushed aside), Why don't they fit in with us.
#32
Ian182
In cases like this, I feel that a lot of the time, people think that equality means...

Same amount of black people as white
Same amount of gay people as straight
Same amount of ginger haired people as brown/blonde/bald etc etc.

I dont care what colour/sexuality people are on TV, radio, in magazines, applying for jobs etc. The best person for the job/position should be given it. End of. If that means 99.9% of people on TV are white, or 96.7% of firefighters are ginger, then so be it.

But I do feel that things are getting too PC nowadays. eg, more than average ethnic minorities appearing on TV because people are so afraid of being called racist.

Very susinct - well said!
#33
Iom-RF


Its sad how everyone now has to bend over backwards to be "PC", I'm in no way racist, I treat everyone equal regardless of colour, religion etc, But i don't understand why we need to fit around them (And the old culture pushed aside), Why don't they fit in with us.

It might sound funny, but I've been told on numerous occasions that I am fascist, racist and BNP member. And what my crimes was? A mere suggestions that if foreigners want to get along well in their new country, they must accept its (country's) values first and not to try to impose their own values on locals. I think the only reason why I wasn't beaten to death and not taken to nearest police station (or graveyard) was my foreign look and accent. Or, maybe because I am 6'4"? Dunno. :-D
#34
Kommunist
It might sound funny, but I've been told on numerous occasions that I am fascist, racist and BNP member. And what my crimes was? A mere suggestions that if foreigners want to get along well in their new country, they must accept its (country's) values first and not to try to impose their own values on locals.


Agreed and i've been called all of the above and I'm not any of them!

I think the only reason why I wasn't beaten to death and not taken to nearest police station (or graveyard) was my foreign look and accent. Or, maybe because I am 6'4"? Dunno. :-D


Thats the problem, Slightest thing thats said about anybody of a different culture/religion and its racist!
#35
Kommunist
A mere suggestions that if foreigners want to get along well in their new country, they must accept its (country's) values first and not to try to impose their own values on locals.


You're right. If I (a 24 year old, white, English, male) were to say this nowadays, many people would call me racist, fascist, BNP member etc. When I am the complete opposite.

Its just wrong. :x
#36
Ian182
You're right. If I (a 24 year old, white, English, male) were to say this nowadays, many people would call me racist, fascist, BNP member etc. When I am the complete opposite.

Its just wrong. :x


Too right Ian.

If you were a white Christian male mouthing off in a foreign country you'll be hung up to dry immediately. Not like the nancy state that we live in where we have to watch what we say for fear of offence.

When my Dad came here in the 60's he said that if you mix with the English they will become your friends and accept you. Nowadays people come over and remain segregated in their own communities.
#37
Political correctness is going way too far. It really annoys me.
The best person should get the job, WTF cares if they are black, white, asian, antipidean or whatever? It's crazy.
For the record, Clive Myrie is one of my favorite reporters/BBC news anchors. It has never crossed my mind that he is black however. He's just a good reporter. Why is it even an issue? There are too many people with chips on their shoulders IMO.
1 Like #38
I think that the real racists are those who trying to impose quotas based on ethnicity. I am talking about exactly the same people who crying that there are not enought Blacks on TV or not enough Asians in Police. It is them and not others are judging people by colour of their skin, accent and appearance.
#39
Kommunist
I think that the real racists are those who trying to impose quotas based on ethnicity. I am talking about exactly the same people who crying that there are not enought Blacks on TV or not enough Asians in Police. It is them and not others are judging people by colour of their skin, accent and appearance.


100% agree!
#40
When watching BBC Breakfast News if they report on anything non-white ie William Wilberforce, Islamic terrorist etc they have to have an ethic reporter - why? are they the best person for the job or is it just because of the colour of their skin makes viewers think the BBC is not being biased?

If I was a professional reporter and was getting chosen for jobs just because of the colour of my skin I'd be pi$$ed off.

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