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Nissan not only confirms it will stay in Sunderland, but will also bring in an extra model, thought we were all doomed and even though some on this site will try and tell us we are, Nissan won't be th… Read More
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8m, 3w agoPosted 8 months, 3 weeks ago
Nissan not only confirms it will stay in Sunderland, but will also bring in an extra model, thought we were all doomed and even though some on this site will try and tell us we are, Nissan won't be the last company to create jobs that's for sure. See it doesn't matter where they get the grants from money is still money.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3878004/Vote-confidence-post-Brexit-Britain-Nissan-signals-build-new-Qashqai-model-Sunderland.html
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Hopefully only the bankers will go.
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Apparently the UK economy has grown since Brexit too.

Sit back and wait for the SJWs and remoaners to arrive.

Edit: too late.

Edited By: stuarthanley on Oct 27, 2016 16:32
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UK economy grows 0.5% in three months after Brexit vote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37786467
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News just in. Confirmed, the Leave vote has led directly to the loss of daylight.

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals has claimed the referendum has directly led to the shortening of the hours of daylight.

They point to data supplied by the Meteorology Office showing that since June 23rd the available daylight has reduced from almost 17 hours to less than 10 hours today.

"It is clear that the vote to Leave the EU has caused this. There can be no other reason as the official Government data proves that there is less daylight now than on the day before the Referendum" an irate HotEnglishAndWelshDeals said.

"What is also clear is that the Referendum has detrimentally affected the temperature too. For example, on the day of the referendum temperatures in London were in excess 20 degrees Celsius. Today it will be lucky to reach 15 in the capital. It is clear that Brexit has caused a shift in the Earth's orbit away from the Sun."

"On the plus side, Christmas is now closer. However I have evidence that the daylight hours on Christmas Day will be significantly shorter than on the day of the Referendum. There is also an emerging school of thought that the temperatures on December 25th will be even colder than they are today, in fact it might snow in places. This is all down to Brexit, that is absolutely clear."

When pressed about this, using the calendar, seasons and the evidence of the Earth's orbit/position in relation to the Sun, HotEnglishAndWelshDeals said that the scientists, astronomers and meteorologists "did not understand", were "plainly stupid" or indeed "racist".

"What is clear is that since the Referendum there has been a spike in Hate Crimes against our nearest Star. The tilt of the Earth away from Sun has become more pronounced in the months after the referendum" he said. "This is obviously a reaction by the Sun to the wave of hate against it since June 23rd, and you cannot blame it. It is all the fault of the Leave voters."

He did offer some consolation.

"All is not lost though. If Mrs May does not invoke Article 50 before the end of March or cancels it completely, which I think will happen, then I can confidently predict that daylight will start slowly increasing at the start 2017 and by at least one hour around 2am on March 26th 2017."



Edited By: Liverpool_Bear on Oct 28, 2016 16:23: I am the Walrus.

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Fantastic news especially in light of the newly released figures but what do you make of this?

Britain has given Nissan (7201.T) a written commitment of extra support in the event that Brexit reduces the competitiveness of its Sunderland plant, in return for new production investments by the Japanese carmaker, a source with knowledge of the matter told Reuters.

In addition to unconditional investment aid, Britain pledged in a letter to offer further relief if the terms of Britain's European Union exit ended up harming the plant's performance, the source said.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-nissan-support-idUKKCN12R1AK
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Apparently the UK economy has grown since Brexit too.

Sit back and wait for the SJWs and remoaners to arrive.

Edit: too late.

Edited By: stuarthanley on Oct 27, 2016 16:32
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stuarthanley
Apparently the UK economy has grown since Brexit too.
Sit back and wait for the SJWs and remoaners to arrive.
Edit: too late.

How many periods of negative growth has the construction industry had? What do you personally think of the services sector essentially carrying growth in this country?
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More Brexit threads??

Rabble, rabble, rabble!!
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Fantastic news especially in light of the newly released figures but what do you make of this?

Britain has given Nissan (7201.T) a written commitment of extra support in the event that Brexit reduces the competitiveness of its Sunderland plant, in return for new production investments by the Japanese carmaker, a source with knowledge of the matter told Reuters.

In addition to unconditional investment aid, Britain pledged in a letter to offer further relief if the terms of Britain's European Union exit ended up harming the plant's performance, the source said.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-nissan-support-idUKKCN12R1AK


the government just announced grants for business staying in the UK post Brexit so it may seem good that they staying but they most likely will be paying less corporation tax or government grants. it's not going to be like before Brexit.

it's a bitter sweat deal.
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Hopefully only the bankers will go.
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Backbreaker79
it's a bitter sweat deal.

Many sweaty days ahead I think.
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Backbreaker79
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Fantastic news especially in light of the newly released figures but what do you make of this?
Britain has given Nissan (7201.T) a written commitment of extra support in the event that Brexit reduces the competitiveness of its Sunderland plant, in return for new production investments by the Japanese carmaker, a source with knowledge of the matter told Reuters.
In addition to unconditional investment aid, Britain pledged in a letter to offer further relief if the terms of Britain's European Union exit ended up harming the plant's performance, the source said.http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-nissan-support-idUKKCN12R1AK
the government just announced grants for business staying in the UK post Brexit so it may seem good that they staying but they most likely will be paying less corporation tax or government grants. it's not going to be like before Brexit.
it's a bitter sweat deal.

Well the Japanese made their position clear and they've obviously had the upper hand because May needs to retain these types of businesses, so will be interesting to see just what we've had to give away.
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UK economy grows 0.5% in three months after Brexit vote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37786467
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splatsplatsplat
Hopefully only the bankers will go.

Considering the services sector of the economy is the only thing driving growth and FSI is a big part of that, is that a good thing to 'hope' for?

Construction had a second consecutive quarter of negative growth - there's a word for that. Oh and manufacturing shrunk too. Look past the headline figure of 0.5% growth. ;)

Edited By: HotEnglishAndWelshDeals on Oct 27, 2016 17:53
#11
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
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And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!

Edited By: splender on Oct 27, 2016 18:10
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splender
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
.
And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufacturers_of_the_United_Kingdom

A
AC (1908–present)
Arash (2006–present) [1]
Ariel (1999–present)
Ascari (1995–present)
Aston Martin (1921–present)
B
Bentley (1919–present)
BAC (2009–present)
Bristol (1946–present)[2]
Brooke (1991–present)
Bowler Offroad (1985–present)
C
Caparo (2006–present)
Caterham (1973–present)
Connaught (2004–present)
D
David Brown (2013–present)
G
Ginetta (1957–present)
Grinnall (1993–present)
J
Jaguar (1945–present)
JBA (1982–present)
JZR (1989–1998; 2000–present)
Javan (2006–present)
L
Land Rover (1948–present)
Lister (1954–1959; 1986–2006; 2013–)
Lotus (1951–present)
M
Marlin (car) (1979–present)
McLaren (1969–1970; 1993–1998; 2005–Present)
MEV Ltd (2003–Present)
MG (1924–present) [3]
Midas Cars (1978–present)[4]
Mini (1959–present)[5]
MK (1996–present)
Morgan (1910–present)
N
Noble (1998–present)
Nissan Motor Manufacturing UK (1994–present)
O
OVIK Crossway (2008–present)
P
Prodrive (1984–present)
R
Radical (1997–present)
Rolls-Royce (1904–present)
Ronart (1984–present)
S
Suffolk Jaguar (1990–present)
T
Triking (1978–present)
TVR (1947–present)
U
Ultima (1992–present)
V
Vauxhall (1903–present)[6]
W
Westfield (1982–present)
Williams Grand Prix Engineering (1977–present)
Z
Zenos Cars
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splatsplatsplat
Hopefully only the bankers will go.
The issue is not bankers per se. It is a combination of,
1/ derivatives and swaps exposure, look at Deutshe Bank now,
2/ the deregulation with Big Bang about 30 years ago
3/ lack of competence in the regulators as the best regulators cross the line to the other side, much like best government tax inspectors are attracted by limitless salaries on the other side
#14
philphil61
splender
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
.
And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufacturers_of_the_United_Kingdom

A
AC (1908–present)
Arash (2006–present) [1]
Ariel (1999–present)
Ascari (1995–present)
Aston Martin (1921–present)
B
Bentley (1919–present)
BAC (2009–present)
Bristol (1946–present)[2]
Brooke (1991–present)
Bowler Offroad (1985–present)
C
Caparo (2006–present)
Caterham (1973–present)
Connaught (2004–present)
D
David Brown (2013–present)
G
Ginetta (1957–present)
Grinnall (1993–present)
J
Jaguar (1945–present)
JBA (1982–present)
JZR (1989–1998; 2000–present)
Javan (2006–present)
L
Land Rover (1948–present)
Lister (1954–1959; 1986–2006; 2013–)
Lotus (1951–present)
M
Marlin (car) (1979–present)
McLaren (1969–1970; 1993–1998; 2005–Present)
MEV Ltd (2003–Present)
MG (1924–present) [3]
Midas Cars (1978–present)[4]
Mini (1959–present)[5]
MK (1996–present)
Morgan (1910–present)
N
Noble (1998–present)
Nissan Motor Manufacturing UK (1994–present)
O
OVIK Crossway (2008–present)
P
Prodrive (1984–present)
R
Radical (1997–present)
Rolls-Royce (1904–present)
Ronart (1984–present)
S
Suffolk Jaguar (1990–present)
T
Triking (1978–present)
TVR (1947–present)
U
Ultima (1992–present)
V
Vauxhall (1903–present)[6]
W
Westfield (1982–present)
Williams Grand Prix Engineering (1977–present)
Z
Zenos Cars
More than and longer than that list, I already linked this on my thread yesterday on what we are going to trade and export http://www.britishbuiltcars.co.uk
.
Welcome to britishbuiltcars.co.uk - the first and only website to list, in detail, every known car, van and motorbike made in the UK!

Edited By: splender on Oct 27, 2016 18:26
1 Like #15
splender
philphil61
splender
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
.
And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufacturers_of_the_United_Kingdom
A
AC (1908–present)
Arash (2006–present) [1]
Ariel (1999–present)
Ascari (1995–present)
Aston Martin (1921–present)
B
Bentley (1919–present)
BAC (2009–present)
Bristol (1946–present)[2]
Brooke (1991–present)
Bowler Offroad (1985–present)
C
Caparo (2006–present)
Caterham (1973–present)
Connaught (2004–present)
D
David Brown (2013–present)
G
Ginetta (1957–present)
Grinnall (1993–present)
J
Jaguar (1945–present)
JBA (1982–present)
JZR (1989–1998; 2000–present)
Javan (2006–present)
L
Land Rover (1948–present)
Lister (1954–1959; 1986–2006; 2013–)
Lotus (1951–present)
M
Marlin (car) (1979–present)
McLaren (1969–1970; 1993–1998; 2005–Present)
MEV Ltd (2003–Present)
MG (1924–present) [3]
Midas Cars (1978–present)[4]
Mini (1959–present)[5]
MK (1996–present)
Morgan (1910–present)
N
Noble (1998–present)
Nissan Motor Manufacturing UK (1994–present)
O
OVIK Crossway (2008–present)
P
Prodrive (1984–present)
R
Radical (1997–present)
Rolls-Royce (1904–present)
Ronart (1984–present)
S
Suffolk Jaguar (1990–present)
T
Triking (1978–present)
TVR (1947–present)
U
Ultima (1992–present)
V
Vauxhall (1903–present)[6]
W
Westfield (1982–present)
Williams Grand Prix Engineering (1977–present)
Z
Zenos Cars
More than and longer than that list, I already linked this on my thread yesterday for everyone http://www.britishbuiltcars.co.uk
Then why did you state
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers

as clearly there are many options

Edited By: philphil61 on Oct 27, 2016 18:27
#16
philphil61
splender
philphil61
splender
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
.
And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufacturers_of_the_United_Kingdom
A
AC (1908–present)
Arash (2006–present) [1]
Ariel (1999–present)
Ascari (1995–present)
Aston Martin (1921–present)
B
Bentley (1919–present)
BAC (2009–present)
Bristol (1946–present)[2]
Brooke (1991–present)
Bowler Offroad (1985–present)
C
Caparo (2006–present)
Caterham (1973–present)
Connaught (2004–present)
D
David Brown (2013–present)
G
Ginetta (1957–present)
Grinnall (1993–present)
J
Jaguar (1945–present)
JBA (1982–present)
JZR (1989–1998; 2000–present)
Javan (2006–present)
L
Land Rover (1948–present)
Lister (1954–1959; 1986–2006; 2013–)
Lotus (1951–present)
M
Marlin (car) (1979–present)
McLaren (1969–1970; 1993–1998; 2005–Present)
MEV Ltd (2003–Present)
MG (1924–present) [3]
Midas Cars (1978–present)[4]
Mini (1959–present)[5]
MK (1996–present)
Morgan (1910–present)
N
Noble (1998–present)
Nissan Motor Manufacturing UK (1994–present)
O
OVIK Crossway (2008–present)
P
Prodrive (1984–present)
R
Radical (1997–present)
Rolls-Royce (1904–present)
Ronart (1984–present)
S
Suffolk Jaguar (1990–present)
T
Triking (1978–present)
TVR (1947–present)
U
Ultima (1992–present)
V
Vauxhall (1903–present)[6]
W
Westfield (1982–present)
Williams Grand Prix Engineering (1977–present)
Z
Zenos Cars
More than and longer than that list, I already linked this on my thread yesterday for everyone http://www.britishbuiltcars.co.uk
hen why did you state
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers
as clearly there are many options
Quite, I should have keyed in that Web site again, there is a snag that it is a tall order for most of these to up tool and increase capacity dramatically , garage showroom, repair shop...

Edited By: splender on Oct 27, 2016 18:31
1 Like #17
splender
philphil61
splender
philphil61
splender
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
.
And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufacturers_of_the_United_Kingdom
A
AC (1908–present)
Arash (2006–present) [1]
Ariel (1999–present)
Ascari (1995–present)
Aston Martin (1921–present)
B
Bentley (1919–present)
BAC (2009–present)
Bristol (1946–present)[2]
Brooke (1991–present)
Bowler Offroad (1985–present)
C
Caparo (2006–present)
Caterham (1973–present)
Connaught (2004–present)
D
David Brown (2013–present)
G
Ginetta (1957–present)
Grinnall (1993–present)
J
Jaguar (1945–present)
JBA (1982–present)
JZR (1989–1998; 2000–present)
Javan (2006–present)
L
Land Rover (1948–present)
Lister (1954–1959; 1986–2006; 2013–)
Lotus (1951–present)
M
Marlin (car) (1979–present)
McLaren (1969–1970; 1993–1998; 2005–Present)
MEV Ltd (2003–Present)
MG (1924–present) [3]
Midas Cars (1978–present)[4]
Mini (1959–present)[5]
MK (1996–present)
Morgan (1910–present)
N
Noble (1998–present)
Nissan Motor Manufacturing UK (1994–present)
O
OVIK Crossway (2008–present)
P
Prodrive (1984–present)
R
Radical (1997–present)
Rolls-Royce (1904–present)
Ronart (1984–present)
S
Suffolk Jaguar (1990–present)
T
Triking (1978–present)
TVR (1947–present)
U
Ultima (1992–present)
V
Vauxhall (1903–present)[6]
W
Westfield (1982–present)
Williams Grand Prix Engineering (1977–present)
Z
Zenos Cars
More than and longer than that list, I already linked this on my thread yesterday for everyone http://www.britishbuiltcars.co.uk
hen why did you state
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers
as clearly there are many options
Quite, I should have keyed in that Web site again, there is a snag that it is a tall order for most of these to up tool and increase capacity dramatically
But it is possible - if the other manufacturers leave the UK - there'll be skilled workforce and it will be British Industry built by mainly British workforce. We used to be the best in the world and we can again if needs must as that is the British way
#18
philphil61
splender
philphil61
splender
philphil61
splender
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
.
And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufacturers_of_the_United_Kingdom
A
AC (1908–present)
Arash (2006–present) [1]
Ariel (1999–present)
Ascari (1995–present)
Aston Martin (1921–present)
B
Bentley (1919–present)
BAC (2009–present)
Bristol (1946–present)[2]
Brooke (1991–present)
Bowler Offroad (1985–present)
C
Caparo (2006–present)
Caterham (1973–present)
Connaught (2004–present)
D
David Brown (2013–present)
G
Ginetta (1957–present)
Grinnall (1993–present)
J
Jaguar (1945–present)
JBA (1982–present)
JZR (1989–1998; 2000–present)
Javan (2006–present)
L
Land Rover (1948–present)
Lister (1954–1959; 1986–2006; 2013–)
Lotus (1951–present)
M
Marlin (car) (1979–present)
McLaren (1969–1970; 1993–1998; 2005–Present)
MEV Ltd (2003–Present)
MG (1924–present) [3]
Midas Cars (1978–present)[4]
Mini (1959–present)[5]
MK (1996–present)
Morgan (1910–present)
N
Noble (1998–present)
Nissan Motor Manufacturing UK (1994–present)
O
OVIK Crossway (2008–present)
P
Prodrive (1984–present)
R
Radical (1997–present)
Rolls-Royce (1904–present)
Ronart (1984–present)
S
Suffolk Jaguar (1990–present)
T
Triking (1978–present)
TVR (1947–present)
U
Ultima (1992–present)
V
Vauxhall (1903–present)[6]
W
Westfield (1982–present)
Williams Grand Prix Engineering (1977–present)
Z
Zenos Cars
More than and longer than that list, I already linked this on my thread yesterday for everyone http://www.britishbuiltcars.co.uk
hen why did you state
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers
as clearly there are many options
Quite, I should have keyed in that Web site again, there is a snag that it is a tall order for most of these to up tool and increase capacity dramatically
But it is possible - if the other manufacturers leave the UK - there'll be skilled workforce and it will be British Industry built by mainly British workforce. We used to be the best in the world and we can again if needs must as that is the British way
It is possible, but it will take at least 20 years to get back to where we were with capacity of British Leyland...sic.
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don't forget the French assets management company that is building the new tallest building in London.
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splender
philphil61
splender
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
.
And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufacturers_of_the_United_Kingdom
A
AC (1908–present)
Arash (2006–present) [1]
Ariel (1999–present)
Ascari (1995–present)
Aston Martin (1921–present)
B
Bentley (1919–present)
BAC (2009–present)
Bristol (1946–present)[2]
Brooke (1991–present)
Bowler Offroad (1985–present)
C
Caparo (2006–present)
Caterham (1973–present)
Connaught (2004–present)
D
David Brown (2013–present)
G
Ginetta (1957–present)
Grinnall (1993–present)
J
Jaguar (1945–present)
JBA (1982–present)
JZR (1989–1998; 2000–present)
Javan (2006–present)
L
Land Rover (1948–present)
Lister (1954–1959; 1986–2006; 2013–)
Lotus (1951–present)
M
Marlin (car) (1979–present)
McLaren (1969–1970; 1993–1998; 2005–Present)
MEV Ltd (2003–Present)
MG (1924–present) [3]
Midas Cars (1978–present)[4]
Mini (1959–present)[5]
MK (1996–present)
Morgan (1910–present)
N
Noble (1998–present)
Nissan Motor Manufacturing UK (1994–present)
O
OVIK Crossway (2008–present)
P
Prodrive (1984–present)
R
Radical (1997–present)
Rolls-Royce (1904–present)
Ronart (1984–present)
S
Suffolk Jaguar (1990–present)
T
Triking (1978–present)
TVR (1947–present)
U
Ultima (1992–present)
V
Vauxhall (1903–present)[6]
W
Westfield (1982–present)
Williams Grand Prix Engineering (1977–present)
Z
Zenos Cars
More than and longer than that list, I already linked this on my thread yesterday on what we are going to trade and export http://www.britishbuiltcars.co.uk
.
Welcome to britishbuiltcars.co.uk - the first and only website to list, in detail, every known car, van and motorbike made in the UK!


Happy to state my car is british made.
It makes me laugh. People moan about the british economy going in the pan, yet they are driving around in a German car. I realise some items it is impossible to buy british (Generally electronics products) but i tend to if there is a choice.

Think we are the only country in the world that turns our noses up at the products we make and prefer foreign imported goods. E.G France predomenantly buys Citroen/Peugeot/Renault, Spain buys SEATs, Germany definatly prefer their own cars etc etc.
2 Likes #21
splender
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
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And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!
Well since we sell 3 pork pies and a bottle of elderflower cordial to the eu and they sell £100billion worth to us .. We will make a killing on tariffs.
#22
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
1 Like #23
What incentives were Nissan given to come here in the first place ?

Edited By: plodging on Oct 27, 2016 19:35
banned 1 Like #24
118luke
splender
philphil61
splender
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
.
And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufacturers_of_the_United_Kingdom
A
AC (1908–present)
Arash (2006–present) [1]
Ariel (1999–present)
Ascari (1995–present)
Aston Martin (1921–present)
B
Bentley (1919–present)
BAC (2009–present)
Bristol (1946–present)[2]
Brooke (1991–present)
Bowler Offroad (1985–present)
C
Caparo (2006–present)
Caterham (1973–present)
Connaught (2004–present)
D
David Brown (2013–present)
G
Ginetta (1957–present)
Grinnall (1993–present)
J
Jaguar (1945–present)
JBA (1982–present)
JZR (1989–1998; 2000–present)
Javan (2006–present)
L
Land Rover (1948–present)
Lister (1954–1959; 1986–2006; 2013–)
Lotus (1951–present)
M
Marlin (car) (1979–present)
McLaren (1969–1970; 1993–1998; 2005–Present)
MEV Ltd (2003–Present)
MG (1924–present) [3]
Midas Cars (1978–present)[4]
Mini (1959–present)[5]
MK (1996–present)
Morgan (1910–present)
N
Noble (1998–present)
Nissan Motor Manufacturing UK (1994–present)
O
OVIK Crossway (2008–present)
P
Prodrive (1984–present)
R
Radical (1997–present)
Rolls-Royce (1904–present)
Ronart (1984–present)
S
Suffolk Jaguar (1990–present)
T
Triking (1978–present)
TVR (1947–present)
U
Ultima (1992–present)
V
Vauxhall (1903–present)[6]
W
Westfield (1982–present)
Williams Grand Prix Engineering (1977–present)
Z
Zenos Cars
More than and longer than that list, I already linked this on my thread yesterday on what we are going to trade and export http://www.britishbuiltcars.co.uk
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Welcome to britishbuiltcars.co.uk - the first and only website to list, in detail, every known car, van and motorbike made in the UK!
Happy to state my car is british made.
It makes me laugh. People moan about the british economy going in the pan, yet they are driving around in a German car. I realise some items it is impossible to buy british (Generally electronics products) but i tend to if there is a choice.
Think we are the only country in the world that turns our noses up at the products we make and prefer foreign imported goods. E.G France predomenantly buys Citroen/Peugeot/Renault, Spain buys SEATs, Germany definatly prefer their own cars etc etc.

I wonder why the EU didn't take VW to task over its illegal activities?

I wonder how many British Companies have been moved to Europe under EU funding to relocate?
#25
cheap pound drives investment
1 Like #26
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.


Just look back in history of any of the big manufacturers they all got incentives to open here, then to keep jobs here and it kept going. However the EU clouded things and gave incentives to move jobs from one country to another.
#27
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.

doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.



Edited By: haritori on Oct 27, 2016 20:00
#28
haritori
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.
So what are we going to give to the NHS if we spend all that money on keeping foreign car manufacturers in the UK?

Edited By: RonChew on Oct 27, 2016 20:10
2 Likes #29
RonChew
haritori
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.
So what are we going to give to the NHS if we waste all that money on keeping foreign car manufacturers in the UK?

You keep playing that one to me, Ive never once suggested it should go to the NHS, and I made it perfectly clear that Nigel Farage & Boris Johnson are both a tool.

but answer me this, when article 50 is invoked, will we get to stop sending 350mil a week to the EU? Yes or No will do.

Edited By: haritori on Oct 27, 2016 20:11
#30
plodging
What incentives were Nissan given to come here in the first place ?
Aheem, http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2230999/Nissan-sells-UK-cars-Switzerland-tax-ruse.html
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But better than nothing as we could NOT manage that amount of volume production without the managers getting too big headed as leaders for their own good and our good. When British leaders get too big for their shoes they behave like Royals and Imperialists, just look at Fred Godwin and Philip Green as fine examples. What have they done for us, one says, as extra for their leadership, nothing, in contrast to ex BMW family owner Johanna Maria Quandt who was sober, modest and extremely private as left the BMW business to competent business managers who grew the BMW company organically with no tricks and financial wizardry.

Edited By: splender on Oct 27, 2016 20:14
banned 1 Like #31
RonChew
haritori
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.
So what are we going to give to the NHS if we spend all that money on keeping foreign car manufacturers in the UK?

It's OK, because the trade agreement that Canada failed to get with Europe after 7 years of negotiating, they will get with the UK in next to no time and we'll be selling lots of goodies to them that Europe cant. X)

When one door closes, another opens.

Close your door on the way out. :p
banned 1 Like #32
haritori
RonChew
haritori
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.
So what are we going to give to the NHS if we waste all that money on keeping foreign car manufacturers in the UK?
You keep playing that one to me, Ive never once suggested it should go to the NHS, and I made it perfectly clear that Nigel Farage & Boris Johnson are both a tool.

but answer me this, when article 50 is invoked, will we get to stop sending 350mil a week to the EU? Yes or No will do.

Farage always stated the EU savings and that Bus slogan were nothing to do with him and he estimated the actual figure saved would be about £120m
1 Like #33
ICBMiss
RonChew
haritori
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.
So what are we going to give to the NHS if we spend all that money on keeping foreign car manufacturers in the UK?
It's OK, because the trade agreement that Canada failed to get with Europe after 7 years of negotiating, they will get with the UK in next to no time and we'll be selling lots of goodies to them that Europe cant. X)
When one door closes, another opens.
Close your door on the way out. :p

Maybe you should keep up with current events.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37788882

X)

Ooh, that had to sting a bit
#34
ICBMiss
118luke
splender
philphil61
splender
Well put it this way, if Nissan and Toyota went over to EU, then in a trade deal it would be embarrassing as what are we going to trade with to import all the German, French and Italy cars as well as these Japanese ones made in UK! LOL!
.
And if we stopped buy all of them, either:-
1/ We have to drive around in Rolls and Land Rovers or,
2/ The EU would have to give us massive cash subsidies to import all those cars as we have not enough car quantity nothing to trade with!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufacturers_of_the_United_Kingdom
A
AC (1908–present)
Arash (2006–present) [1]
Ariel (1999–present)
Ascari (1995–present)
Aston Martin (1921–present)
B
Bentley (1919–present)
BAC (2009–present)
Bristol (1946–present)[2]
Brooke (1991–present)
Bowler Offroad (1985–present)
C
Caparo (2006–present)
Caterham (1973–present)
Connaught (2004–present)
D
David Brown (2013–present)
G
Ginetta (1957–present)
Grinnall (1993–present)
J
Jaguar (1945–present)
JBA (1982–present)
JZR (1989–1998; 2000–present)
Javan (2006–present)
L
Land Rover (1948–present)
Lister (1954–1959; 1986–2006; 2013–)
Lotus (1951–present)
M
Marlin (car) (1979–present)
McLaren (1969–1970; 1993–1998; 2005–Present)
MEV Ltd (2003–Present)
MG (1924–present) [3]
Midas Cars (1978–present)[4]
Mini (1959–present)[5]
MK (1996–present)
Morgan (1910–present)
N
Noble (1998–present)
Nissan Motor Manufacturing UK (1994–present)
O
OVIK Crossway (2008–present)
P
Prodrive (1984–present)
R
Radical (1997–present)
Rolls-Royce (1904–present)
Ronart (1984–present)
S
Suffolk Jaguar (1990–present)
T
Triking (1978–present)
TVR (1947–present)
U
Ultima (1992–present)
V
Vauxhall (1903–present)[6]
W
Westfield (1982–present)
Williams Grand Prix Engineering (1977–present)
Z
Zenos Cars
More than and longer than that list, I already linked this on my thread yesterday on what we are going to trade and export http://www.britishbuiltcars.co.uk
.
Welcome to britishbuiltcars.co.uk - the first and only website to list, in detail, every known car, van and motorbike made in the UK!
Happy to state my car is british made.
It makes me laugh. People moan about the british economy going in the pan, yet they are driving around in a German car. I realise some items it is impossible to buy british (Generally electronics products) but i tend to if there is a choice.
Think we are the only country in the world that turns our noses up at the products we make and prefer foreign imported goods. E.G France predomenantly buys Citroen/Peugeot/Renault, Spain buys SEATs, Germany definatly prefer their own cars etc etc.
I wonder why the EU didn't take VW to task over its illegal activities?
I wonder how many British Companies have been moved to Europe under EU funding to relocate?

Yup, VW got off very lightly in Europe compared to the USA. They still havent come up with a fix for a lot of their cars 1 year on, and they dont seem to be in any rush to do so.
#35
haritori
RonChew
haritori
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.
So what are we going to give to the NHS if we waste all that money on keeping foreign car manufacturers in the UK?
You keep playing that one to me, Ive never once suggested it should go to the NHS, and I made it perfectly clear that Nigel Farage & Boris Johnson are both a tool.
but answer me this, when article 50 is invoked, will we get to stop sending 350mil a week to the EU? Yes or No will do.
You're right. Yes or no will do because nobody has any idea what agreements we will have to enter into with the EU to maintain our trading relationships with EU countries. Ask me again when we've left the EU and I might be able to be more specific.
#36
haritori
RonChew
haritori
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.
So what are we going to give to the NHS if we waste all that money on keeping foreign car manufacturers in the UK?
You keep playing that one to me, Ive never once suggested it should go to the NHS, and I made it perfectly clear that Nigel Farage & Boris Johnson are both a tool.
but answer me this, when article 50 is invoked, will we get to stop sending 350mil a week to the EU? Yes or No will do.

No, we don't stop paying when we invoke Article 50.

After 2 years we leave and then it depends on the deal in the long term but in the short term we'll still need to repay up to €20 billion back to the EU in unpaid commitments.

Understand? Yes or no will do.
1 Like #37
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
haritori
RonChew
haritori
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.
So what are we going to give to the NHS if we waste all that money on keeping foreign car manufacturers in the UK?
You keep playing that one to me, Ive never once suggested it should go to the NHS, and I made it perfectly clear that Nigel Farage & Boris Johnson are both a tool.
but answer me this, when article 50 is invoked, will we get to stop sending 350mil a week to the EU? Yes or No will do.
No, we don't stop paying when we invoke Article 50.
After 2 years we leave and then it depends on the deal in the long term but in the short term we'll still need to repay up to €20 billion back to the EU in unpaid commitments.
Understand? Yes or no will do.

Yes i understand we cannot have any positivity only negativity.

also Ron says we don't know, but your pretty sure.. so which is it. in fact don't bother..

I dont know why I'm even arguing with you.
#38
ICBMiss
haritori
RonChew
haritori
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.
So what are we going to give to the NHS if we waste all that money on keeping foreign car manufacturers in the UK?
You keep playing that one to me, Ive never once suggested it should go to the NHS, and I made it perfectly clear that Nigel Farage & Boris Johnson are both a tool.
but answer me this, when article 50 is invoked, will we get to stop sending 350mil a week to the EU? Yes or No will do.
Farage always stated the EU savings and that Bus slogan were nothing to do with him and he estimated the actual figure saved would be about £120m
And, of course, Farage would never lie. He's a politician and they're all paragons of virtue.

You don't really believe him, do you?
2 Likes #39
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Fantastic news especially in light of the newly released figures but what do you make of this?
Britain has given Nissan (7201.T) a written commitment of extra support in the event that Brexit reduces the competitiveness of its Sunderland plant, in return for new production investments by the Japanese carmaker, a source with knowledge of the matter told Reuters.
In addition to unconditional investment aid, Britain pledged in a letter to offer further relief if the terms of Britain's European Union exit ended up harming the plant's performance, the source said.http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-nissan-support-idUKKCN12R1AK

"Fantastic news especially in light of the newly released figures"

Was it this newly released figure that you had in mind....

Britain’s public finances have been hit by a post-Brexit £700 million EU budget bill, an internal Treasury briefing reveals.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/700m-bill-from-eu-is-revealed-by-web-blunder-wxbmvlv60
Brussels increased its demand by more than 25 per cent last month, according to the note intended only for Treasury ministers and officials.
The document, marked “sensitive” but released in error on the department’s website
#40
haritori
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
haritori
RonChew
haritori
iloveacomputer
This means any new trade tariffs for the car industry will be paid by us - the British taxpayer. Workers who voted leave thought Nissan couldn't find better workers, but Nissan realised that our government would pay Nissan to stay. Brexit is going to be a series of financial sweeteners and bail outs on the public purse.
doesn't matter though does it, we can have £350 million a week (250 if we want to count the rebate as no doubt remoaners will) in financial sweeteners to keep the country running, until our own prosperity is realised again.
So what are we going to give to the NHS if we waste all that money on keeping foreign car manufacturers in the UK?
You keep playing that one to me, Ive never once suggested it should go to the NHS, and I made it perfectly clear that Nigel Farage & Boris Johnson are both a tool.
but answer me this, when article 50 is invoked, will we get to stop sending 350mil a week to the EU? Yes or No will do.
No, we don't stop paying when we invoke Article 50.
After 2 years we leave and then it depends on the deal in the long term but in the short term we'll still need to repay up to €20 billion back to the EU in unpaid commitments.
Understand? Yes or no will do.
Yes i understand we cannot have any positivity only negativity.
also Ron says we don't know, but your pretty sure.. so which is it. in fact don't bother..
I dont know why I'm even arguing with you.

Not negativity, facts. This isn't an argument, I'm just telling you the answer to your question.

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