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Ohhhhhhh...sewerage. :o(

Lucyeff Avatar
6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
Hi everyone

Me and my husband are worried sick. We share our drains with around 5 or 6 houses on our Close, and our next door neighbour keeps having a problem with sewerage flooding onto his property, which is also flooding down onto ours (his property is raised). When it first happened, he bought some rods and had a poke about, it seems that the blockage is always on our side, but the waste backs up to his when it's blocked.

It seems to be sanitary towels and suchlike causing some of the problem, from someone oop the road. But this has only started to happen in the last 12 months or so, and I'm sure they always did the same before then, so we're worried there is an issue with the drains on our property. I'm not sure if it's just a conincidence that it's since the heavy rain/flooding, and also the fact that our the entire mains water pipes are shot and need replacing (according to the men from the water board who seem to be coming out monthly to repair them as they're so old, but of course they won't replace them). Could this have any effect on the drains?? I have no idea

We're skint though. I think we need some advice as to what to do next. My husband wants to get a man with a camera to see what the problem is, but I'm worried about the cost of that, too. I want to make sure that whatever we do is necessary, and we're only spending on what is needed to be done. And of course, that we get the problem fixed.

We have 2 young children, and so obviously sewerage in the garden is not good! Nor is it for anyone, come to that.

The neighbour is checking the drains twice daily at the mo. It's getting to be a huge issue. They're lovely about it but I'm also concerned that it could be roots from one of our bushes in our garden (or trees cut to bush size) that may have caused a problem.

What shall we do first? Is there a chance we might be able to get some help? My sister said that the council dealt with her drains, but I think that's only certain properties. I am going to contact them today about it.

All advice welcomed!!!!! I'm not sleeping at the mo as it's on the top of list of huge things we need to fork out for that we can ill afford.

Many thanks
Lucy x
Lucyeff Avatar
6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
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#1
Anybody had a baby in the last 12 months? As according to the drain guy who pitched up at ours blamed it on, turned out it was a plastic giraffe and loads of baby wipes. We had a word with the neighbour and asked if they could bin their wipes instead of flushing them and never had a problem since.
#2
One of my relatives had a problem in that Severn Trent Water had fed one of the blue water pipes right through one of the sewerage pipes under their garden - This led to massive blockages not to mention the health risk!. Trying to get STW to acknowledge it was their fault was like trying to get blood out of a stone though!
#3
The local council should give you the correct advice and check your house insurance to see if they can help as they will want to stop any issues before it happens as it seems its not your fault.
#4
Thanks for your reply. Plastic giraffe! Lol. Now I AM worried. My husband says it can't be anything we have stuffed down our loo as the blockage starts before our sewerage would join it even though it's on our land, but we have two mischievous kids under 5 - and I have had to rescue 10,521 baby wipes from the lav before now. Lord knows what else they may have put down.

Noone else has babies..I'm wondering if the 'kitchen roll' the neighbour is finding could be bum wipes though? But I'm just wondering if it is that, how they would cause a blockage before our lot joins the party? I'm not very clued up on this sort of thing. :(
banned#5
Who the hell is dh?

edit: above
#6
Thanks for your replies folks. Will try the council, I'm sure it's a common problem. I noticed on the Yorkshire Water site that they'll be taking over responsibility for some of the sewerage pipes from 2012....

ps we're owner occupiers. Bah.
#7
dh_dear hubby
banned#8
edjaned
dh_dear hubby


bit retro?
#9
lumoruk
Who the hell is dh?

edit: above


Have edited it! My husband.
#10
Why would there be baby wipes down the loo? Mine all just get put inside the nappy then binned. Well not mine, my daughter's!
#11
lumoruk
Who the hell is dh?

edit: above


People use those terms all the time ,dh,ds,dd,you get the picture:-D:-D
#12
kaks26
Why would there be baby wipes down the loo? Mine all just get put inside the nappy then binned. Well not mine, my daughter's!


My sis uses baby wipes on her son when he goes to the toilet,i've told her you're not supposed to flush them,told her to buy flushable ones:thumbsup:
#13
We had a similar sort of problem with the drains a couple of weeks ago, shared drain for 5 houses.

Severn Trent said theyy will only deal with the problem if its on public land, i.e. in the road. I phoned our local council (Sandwell) and they sent dynarod out who flushed the whole system (free of charge)....it may be worth contacting your local council, some offer this service free...

Hope that helps...
#14
Baz123
We had a similar sort of problem with the drains a couple of weeks ago, shared drain for 5 houses.

Severn Trent said theyy will only deal with the problem if its on public land, i.e. in the road. I phoned our local council (Sandwell) and they sent dynarod out who flushed the whole system (free of charge)....it may be worth contacting your local council, some offer this service free...

Hope that helps...


Your local council sound fab! :thumbsup:

Have phoned my council and they have said we need to pay ourselves to get a man with a camera. They're getting an Environmental Health officer to contact us to find out some more about it, and maybe establish who is responsible. I get a strong feeling that'll be us, then, seeing as the woman on the phone was making noises to suggest so as it's on our property.

Bu gger. :-(
#15
Does anyone have any idea how much it costs usually to flush out drains, by any chance? Will we need to remortgage?? :-(
banned#16
deb8z;8351589
People use those terms all the time ,dh,ds,dd,you get the picture:-D:-D

'people' as in women you mean :-D
banned#17
Lucyeff;8351642
Your local council sound fab! :thumbsup:

Have phoned my council and they have said we need to pay ourselves to get a man with a camera. They're getting an Environmental Health officer to contact us to find out some more about it, and maybe establish who is responsible. I get a strong feeling that'll be us, then, seeing as the woman on the phone was making noises to suggest so as it's on our property.

Bu gger. :-(

so you dont live in a council house then? :?

dynorod charged £358 to flush my drain out (covered by barclays homecare policy)
#18
I rang Environmental Health to see what they could suggest.

Dynarod charged you how much? Crikey :o

We have looked into insurance in the past for the sewerage drains but they're shared, it seems they're not covered.

I'm getting very nervous about all this now. :|
#19
deb8z
My sis uses baby wipes on her son when he goes to the toilet,i've told her you're not supposed to flush them,told her to buy flushable ones:thumbsup:
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The so called flushable ones like Kandoo also cause problems...

OP - I hope you get it sorted.

Have you checked with your water/sewerage company - they may offer a better solution.
banned#20
Lucyeff
Does anyone have any idea how much it costs usually to flush out drains, by any chance? Will we need to remortgage?? :-(


Just get dyno rod out or buy some chimney sweep gear, then prepare to get stinking smelly :lol:

if it doesn't work at least you can start a chimney sweep business to pay for the dyno rod call out.

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#21
csiman
'people' as in women you mean :-D


Probably,but not me might i add:-D
banned#22
csiman
third time lucky maybe?

so you dont live in a council house then? :?


Think she's got you on ignore, but I think if the council have refused to sort it, she must own/rent privately.
#23
It all depends where the blockage is, with regards to responsibility.

I would suggest you get the water board out to check the drains at their end - which are the ones outwith the boundary of your property. If they find their drains are clear and are not causing a back-surge into the shared drain, then the responsibility is that of the common drain owners - i.e you and your neighbours.

As you all share the drain, and say the water board determine that it is your problem, you will all need to club together and get it inspected (probably using a CCTV system) and repaired as necessary. If the other neighbours are unwilling to share the costs, the EHO can serve an Abatement Notice under the Environmental Protection Act to 'make' everyone share the costs - should they fail to meet the terms of the Notice, the EHO can enforce the Notice by having the required works carried out by default, and will send the bill to the owners responsible for the drains.

Any questions ask on here or PM me.
banned#24
If I take the **** out of people living in council houses, I get suspended. Why not everyone else? :/
#25
csiman
so you dont live in a council house then? :?

dynorod charged £358 to flush my drain out (covered by barclays homecare policy)


If your question was aimed at me, then no i dont live in a council house, its privately owned
#26
lumoruk
Think she's got you on ignore, but I think if the council have refused to sort it, she must own/rent privately.


The OP said she was an owner on the previous page.:thumbsup:
banned#27
moob;8352361
The OP said she was an owner on the previous page.:thumbsup:

but the thread is only 1 page long :?

oh well, just added OP to my IGNORE list anyway lol so shall delete my help too :-D
#28
csiman
but the thread is only 1 page long :?

oh well, just added OP to my IGNORE list anyway lol so shall delete my help too :-D


At your end maybe...

Thanks for your replies folks. Will try the council, I'm sure it's a common problem. I noticed on the Yorkshire Water site that they'll be taking over responsibility for some of the sewerage pipes from 2012....

ps we're owner occupiers. Bah.
#29
Lucyeff
I rang Environmental Health to see what they could suggest.

Dynarod charged you how much? Crikey :o

We have looked into insurance in the past for the sewerage drains but they're shared, it seems they're not covered.

I'm getting very nervous about all this now. :|


Lol, sorry, I wasn't ignoring you re the council house. ^^ That meant I don't actually rent from the council but just rang Env Health to see what happens next. My head is all over the shop thinking about sh it and pounds signs! :oops: x
#30
moob
It all depends where the blockage is, with regards to responsibility.

I would suggest you get the water board out to check the drains at their end - which are the ones outwith the boundary of your property. If they find their drains are clear and are not causing a back-surge into the shared drain, then the responsibility is that of the common drain owners - i.e you and your neighbours.

As you all share the drain, and say the water board determine that it is your problem, you will all need to club together and get it inspected (probably using a CCTV system) and repaired as necessary. If the other neighbours are unwilling to share the costs, the EHO can serve an Abatement Notice under the Environmental Protection Act to 'make' everyone share the costs - should they fail to meet the terms of the Notice, the EHO can enforce the Notice by having the required works carried out by default, and will send the bill to the owners responsible for the drains.

Any questions ask on here or PM me.


Thanks so much for that! The man from Env Health has just been out. We're not going to be popular with the neighbours....

It seems we're not served by the drain that's blocked, and so even though the part that may be causing a problem is on our property, the Council couldn't serve a notice on us to get the work done.

That is a relief.

Buuuut, there there's the issue of keeping the peace. The chap from EH said that it would be complicated as there are a number of other folk who would be served notices, and the Council would split the cost and not include us. So we'd have to pay the neighbours whatever we have to, directly.

Ohhhh we're so brassic, I can't tell you. But then keeping good relations with the neighbours is probably worth bending the plastic for. They could well be in the same boat as us. I know the chap next door is skint as he has just bought an £800 washing machine he said, lol! I wish that's why we were skint :roll:

Moob, I really appreciate your advice. :thumbsup:

And lumoruk, I'm still thinking that could be a good idea. My youngest would fit nicely up the chimneys and doesn't have to start school for another year or so..... :whistling:
banned#31
Lucyeff;8352582
Lol, sorry, I wasn't ignoring you re the council house. ^^ That meant I don't actually rent from the council but just rang Env Health to see what happens next. My head is all over the shop thinking about ***** and pounds signs! :oops: x

I would go for the DIY job as lumoruk suggested. £20 beats £300 for a jet flush any day! :thumbsup:
banned#32
moob;8352340
It all depends where the blockage is, with regards to responsibility.

I would suggest you get the water board out to check the drains at their end - which are the ones outwith the boundary of your property. If they find their drains are clear and are not causing a back-surge into the shared drain, then the responsibility is that of the common drain owners - i.e you and your neighbours.

As you all share the drain, and say the water board determine that it is your problem, you will all need to club together and get it inspected (probably using a CCTV system) and repaired as necessary. If the other neighbours are unwilling to share the costs, the EHO can serve an Abatement Notice under the Environmental Protection Act to 'make' everyone share the costs - should they fail to meet the terms of the Notice, the EHO can enforce the Notice by having the required works carried out by default, and will send the bill to the owners responsible for the drains.

Any questions ask on here or PM me.

agreed- thats why I suggested lifting the drain OUTSIDE the property earlier to see if it is blocked there :thumbsup:
banned#33
dcx_badass;8352453
15 posts per page default = 2 pages and they said they owned it ages ago.

odd that people stick with the default :?

sorry for not having 20:20 vision and spotting that sentence :whistling:
1 Like #34
Lucyeff
Thanks so much for that! The man from Env Health has just been out. We're not going to be popular with the neighbours....

It seems we're not served by the drain that's blocked, and so even though the part that may be causing a problem is on our property, the Council couldn't serve a notice on us to get the work done.

That is a relief.

Buuuut, there there's the issue of keeping the peace. The chap from EH said that it would be complicated as there are a number of other folk who would be served notices, and the Council would split the cost and not include us. So we'd have to pay the neighbours whatever we have to, directly.

Ohhhh we're so brassic, I can't tell you. But then keeping good relations with the neighbours is probably worth bending the plastic for. They could well be in the same boat as us. I know the chap next door is skint as he has just bought an £800 washing machine he said, lol! I wish that's why we were skint :roll:

Moob, I really appreciate your advice. :thumbsup:

And lumoruk, I'm still thinking that could be a good idea. My youngest would fit nicely up the chimneys and doesn't have to start school for another year or so..... :whistling:


No problem.

Glad at least you now know where you stand a bit more clearly.

Good luck.:thumbsup:
banned#35
moob
The OP said she was an owner on the previous page.:thumbsup:


that post was edited at 9:24, half an hour after it was posted. You don't expect us to go back and read through their posts to check they haven't edited do you?

csiman
sorry for not having 20:20 vision and spotting that sentence :whistling:


It's okay, it was edited after we had read it.
#36
dcx_badass
Why would you pay when it's nothing to do with you?


It does depend on the cause of the blockage I guess. If it's trees then that can only be us, so out of courtesy we'd offer to contribute. ;-)
banned#37
Lucyeff
It does depend on the cause of the blockage I guess. If it's trees then that can only be us, so out of courtesy we'd offer to contribute. ;-)


I looked in my drain and there was a great big turd from next door caught in the roots of a bush.

You lifted that drain cover yet?
banned#38
dcx_badass;8352710
Why would you pay when it's nothing to do with you?

blockage is in their OWNED property :whistling:
lumoruk;8352869
that post was edited at 9:24, half an hour after it was posted. You don't expect us to go back and read through their posts to check they haven't edited do you?



It's okay, it was edited after we had read it.

Good spot! I wondered why I missed it :-D
lumoruk;8352949
I looked in my drain and there was a great big turd from next door caught in the roots of a bush.

You lifted that drain cover yet?

third time lucky perhaps.......................:giggle:
banned#39
csiman
third time lucky perhaps.......................:giggle:


vote to suspend member for being crap on the interwebs? :?
#40
lumoruk
that post was edited at 9:24, half an hour after it was posted. You don't expect us to go back and read through their posts to check they haven't edited do you?


Don't be so touchy - I wasn't criticising when I quoted you.

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