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One Poll shows Britons prioritise Immigration over the Single Market

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It's one poll, polls can be unreliable sometimes but how is it even this close? A survey found 56 per cent put controlling Britain’s borders first with only 44 per cent prioritising membership of t… Read More
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5m, 4w agoPosted 5 months, 4 weeks ago
It's one poll, polls can be unreliable sometimes but how is it even this close?

A survey found 56 per cent put controlling Britain’s borders first with only 44 per cent prioritising membership of the single market.
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#1
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2042301/brits-say-control-of-borders-post-brexit-is-more-important-than-staying-in-the-eus-single-market/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-25/brexit-bulletin-britons-care-more-about-immigration-than-trade

Once again there's evidence that Britain isn't one unified nation but two very different countries with different priorities and interests. I don't see how we unify this country anymore.
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2042301/brits-say-control-of-borders-post-brexit-is-more-important-than-staying-in-the-eus-single-market/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-25/brexit-bulletin-britons-care-more-about-immigration-than-trade

Once again there's evidence that Britain isn't one unified nation but two very different countries with different priorities and interests. I don't see how we unify this country anymore.


protect the borders and manage security
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Polls unreliable? Are you allowed to say that? :)
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My next door neighbour says he wants the last election made null and void as me didn't vote conservative, other side says they are considering legal action because Labour won 3 election back. Wait a minute aren't we a democratic country, oh only when it suits us.

There was a poll last week that you missed, it said 90% of people were sick of people moaning about the results and 99% said just move on!
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Its so transparent. You just want to stir up more comments about the same old crap in the hope that people will argue and get suspended or banned. You are a self confessed multi and the mods need to look at your previous comments where you admitted it and your comments where it's clear you recognise other posters and have knowledge of their posting history prior to your joining HUKD with this current moniker.
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Something something control of your own life, something something fantastic economy and better yourself.
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I agree with the majority borders is the priority nothing less will suffice

That doesn't mean we stop helping refugees
That doesn't mean we stop immigration

What it means is we can pick and chose who is best suited for our needs - how can anyone believe that anything different is best for Britain

Currently with the EU open borders policy we are discriminating against the educated and the qualified because we have to cut there numbers because we have to consider EU citizens first and we don't have the capacity, properties, services to help everyone.

If you look back at previous manifestos the Tories always used immigration as a pledge got into power yet they always failed with their targets

If you haven't watched Last Whites of East London documentary it's one I'd suggest you watch - when you get an East Ender Asian lad almost crying because he can see the damage done by "foreigners" changing the diversity of a city/estate/area - that shows how bad this immigration problem is
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For someone that isn't bothered about Brexit, the OP seems awfully obsessed with it.
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unfortunately I have an app on my phone that turns my phone into a pumpkin if I click on anything Scum related however the bloomberg link was fine.
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Mark2111
Its so transparent. You just want to stir up more comments about the same old crap in the hope that people will argue and get suspended or banned. You are a self confessed multi and the mods need to look at your previous comments where you admitted it and your comments where it's clear you recognise other posters and have knowledge of their posting history prior to your joining HUKD with this current moniker.
Does it really matter? And, what's the difference between posting this sort of thread and the usual right wing anti-EU threads so beloved of davewave and a few others?

Surely, the whole point of a forum is dissenting discussion which isn't going to happen if everyone fawningly agrees with each other. If some people have so little control over themselves that they feel the need to abuse anyone who doesn't share their views then it is their own fault if they get suspended or banned.

I quite often see posts from people who I remember having different names in the past on HUKD. Sometimes, I admit, I do like to do a bit of tail-tweaking but I never have, and never will, resort to reporting them. Reporting posts, with a few exceptions, is usually the last resort of someone whose argument has been completely blown.
#12
stuarthanley
For someone that isn't bothered about Brexit, the OP seems awfully obsessed with it.

I'm bothered by the state of the country and the opportunities available to the next generation, but that's because I like Great Britain.

Nothing should be more important to someone than the economy because it's a strong economy that creates opportunities. Now you and a few others are driven by a personal agenda to dismiss that notion and I understand that. It would be fine if it was simply limited to you but when 56% of the country (again, the nature of polls makes this contentious but we'll go with it) seems to believe it then we're moving in the wrong direction as a country in my opinion.
#13
Mark2111
Its so transparent. You just want to stir up more comments about the same old crap in the hope that people will argue and get suspended or banned. You are a self confessed multi and the mods need to look at your previous comments where you admitted it and your comments where it's clear you recognise other posters and have knowledge of their posting history prior to your joining HUKD with this current moniker.

You can call for asylum seekers to be machine gunned, you can make jokes about popstars dying and you can make xenophobic comments to your heart's content without being punished. I think you're safe from being drawn into making a comment that would see you suspended or banned.

But if you don't feel like you can manage that then simply don't reply to my posts. Is it really that difficult?
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stuarthanley
For someone that isn't bothered about Brexit, the OP seems awfully obsessed with it.
I'm bothered by the state of the country and the opportunities available to the next generation, but that's because I like Great Britain.
Nothing should be more important to someone than the economy because it's a strong economy that creates opportunities. Now you and a few others are driven by a personal agenda to dismiss that notion and I understand that. It would be fine if it was simply limited to you but when 56% of the country (again, the nature of polls makes this contentious but we'll go with it) seems to believe it then we're moving in the wrong direction as a country in my opinion.
And yet there are many other Brexit threads that this could have been posted in. One of them is called Brexit watch, an ideal thread for this.
Instead, as Mark stated, you want to create a new thread purely for the attention you seem to thrive on and the tension you seem to want to create with other members.
Quite sad really.
#15
Here is a decent, ordinary fellow Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that the country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history. We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancées whom they have never seen

For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted.

Things haven't changed much in nearly 50 years.
#16
RonChew
Here is a decent, ordinary fellow Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that the country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history. We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancées whom they have never seen
For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted.
Things haven't changed much in nearly 50 years.

What's fascinating is that there seems to be a growing movement to rehabilitate Powell's character, if not wholly adopt him as some populist hero.

It's amazing to see what's happening to this country. I grew up with the last remnants of the National Front at football grounds as an anachronism, a small group of sad old men stuck in the 80s. Now we have White Lives Matter protests in Margate which is perhaps not too surprising if you've had the misfortune to go to Margate, but is still remarkable for anyone who grew up in the 90s and 00s.
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RonChew
Here is a decent, ordinary fellow Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that the country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history. We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancées whom they have never seen
For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted.
Things haven't changed much in nearly 50 years.
What's fascinating is that there seems to be a growing movement to rehabilitate Powell's character, if not wholly adopt him as some populist hero.
It's amazing to see what's happening to this country. I grew up with the last remnants of the National Front at football grounds as an anachronism, a small group of sad old men stuck in the 80s. Now we have White Lives Matter protests in Margate which is perhaps not too surprising if you've had the misfortune to go to Margate, but is still remarkable for anyone who grew up in the 90s and 00s.

How's your German coming along?

Perhaps I'll start a thread about some Brits prioritising emigration

Edited By: cchopps on Oct 25, 2016 12:53
#18
Mark2111
Its so transparent. You just want to stir up more comments about the same old crap in the hope that people will argue and get suspended or banned. You are a self confessed multi and the mods need to look at your previous comments where you admitted it and your comments where it's clear you recognise other posters and have knowledge of their posting history prior to your joining HUKD with this current moniker.

drasim
Something something control of your own life, something something fantastic economy and better yourself.

stuarthanley
For someone that isn't bothered about Brexit, the OP seems awfully obsessed with it.

Lovely to see all of your most fervent fans come together in support.


cchopps
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RonChew
Here is a decent, ordinary fellow Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that the country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history. We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancées whom they have never seen
For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted.
Things haven't changed much in nearly 50 years.
What's fascinating is that there seems to be a growing movement to rehabilitate Powell's character, if not wholly adopt him as some populist hero.
It's amazing to see what's happening to this country. I grew up with the last remnants of the National Front at football grounds as an anachronism, a small group of sad old men stuck in the 80s. Now we have White Lives Matter protests in Margate which is perhaps not too surprising if you've had the misfortune to go to Margate, but is still remarkable for anyone who grew up in the 90s and 00s.
How's your German coming along?
Perhaps I'll start a thread about some Brits prioritising emigration


I wouldn't be too concerned on his behalf, I don't think that UK branch level staff are under threat.


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#20
I've just had a frightful realisation that if America does reject Trump, then it might be the first time in my lifetime that given similar options (populism v rationalism) it is us who have made the wrong choice.

I say that knowing 'wrong' will probably raise eyebrows as well as ire, but from my viewpoint it is and I apologise in advance.

I've never been one for trashing Americans despite some bizarre choices in the early-00s but it is an odd table to have chosen to turn.
#21
RonChew
Mark2111
Its so transparent. You just want to stir up more comments about the same old crap in the hope that people will argue and get suspended or banned. You are a self confessed multi and the mods need to look at your previous comments where you admitted it and your comments where it's clear you recognise other posters and have knowledge of their posting history prior to your joining HUKD with this current moniker.
Does it really matter? And, what's the difference between posting this sort of thread and the usual right wing anti-EU threads so beloved of davewave and a few others?
Surely, the whole point of a forum is dissenting discussion which isn't going to happen if everyone fawningly agrees with each other. If some people have so little control over themselves that they feel the need to abuse anyone who doesn't share their views then it is their own fault if they get suspended or banned.
I quite often see posts from people who I remember having different names in the past on HUKD. Sometimes, I admit, I do like to do a bit of tail-tweaking but I never have, and never will, resort to reporting them. Reporting posts, with a few exceptions, is usually the last resort of someone whose argument has been completely blown.

The difference between "anti-EU threads" and threads like this one should be obvious even to you (or perhaps not).
Threads like this one and in fact most of the OP's threads have only one purpose - bigotry - to denigrate members of this site and the British working class.

Edited By: Fred Smith on Oct 26, 2016 00:00

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