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Orange announces Iphone Tarrifs......same as O2 :(

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7y, 2m agoPosted 7 years, 2 months ago
Orange has finally announced the tariffs for iphone and confirmed the 10th Nov launch date.The tariffs are excatly the same as O2 so bad news for all of us who were waiting for a price war.Just a heads up
Check out the link on the post for offical prices.The data allowance is 750MB so not unlimited in my opinion
Cold from me;)

http://interest.orange.co.uk/
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7y, 2m agoPosted 7 years, 2 months ago
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#1
well thats useless isnt it :(

maybe they will give some extra free stuff like maps (although google will be updating their maps to provide free turn by turn)
#2
i totally agree as its a pretty useless wait for an iphone which has exactly the same price but lesser data so dont know what people will see in Orange to switch over.I think they have just shot themselves in the foot by announcing the same prices after so much hype
#3
I assume that Voda, will be doing the same then!!! I know that the iphone is a decent phone, but when you consider some of the phones that HTC are now doing, this is just a joke......
#4
Maybe Apple sets the price? All I know is I would never buy any Apple product. Overpriced, overhyped and unreliable.
#5
mickrick
Maybe Apple sets the price? All I know is I would never buy any Apple product. Overpriced, overhyped and unreliable.


Unreliable! Not for me they haven't been.
I think it sucks that another operator is offering the iphone on practically the same tariffs (or worse) than what is already available. What happened to competition?
#6
mickrick
Maybe Apple sets the price? All I know is I would never buy any Apple product. Overpriced, overhyped and unreliable.


And yet with by far the highest customer satisfaction figures in the industry and consistent recommendations from people like "Which Magazine" so they must have some substance to the products don't you think?
#7
Orange have the worst customer service ever. All they seem interested in isscrewing the last penny out of the public. Don't go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
banned#8
mickrick
Maybe Apple sets the price? All I know is I would never buy any Apple product. Overpriced, overhyped and unreliable.


Overpriced - wholly subjective.

Overhyped - Possibly

Unreliable - Huh?:?
#9
RATTYREET
Orange have the worst customer service ever. All they seem interested in isscrewing the last penny out of the public. Don't go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Actually, after dealing with some of the other phone companies out there. Oranges customer service is exemplary. Also, I always get great deals and offers when it comes to upgrades so I'm sure I'll be able to haggle them down when my upgrade is due.
#10
the idea probably is now o2 will come down then orange will and so on so might be worth waiting a while
#11
^ I agree - awful customer service. I have an iPhone on O2 and so far I'm really impressed with their customer service.

I see the only benefit of switching to Orange as being the brilliant 3G coverage - it's far far better than O2's. But can you stay within the 750mb, or else its probably gonna cost a packet
[mod]#12
Just a heads up

Moved to MISC from deals as its information, thanks.
#13
What a joke, thought price fixing was not allowed? Robbery!!

One very minor perk to orange over o2 is that orange have much better 3g coverage
#14
mickrick
Maybe Apple sets the price?


That would be price fixing and that would be illegal in this country, still I suspect you're not far off the mark. Which is a shame because I really really want one, but shall not be paying those prices when a top end android phone can be had for much less.
#15
Just had a quick compare of the two, and there is one big difference:

Orange: 18 months at £29.36 per month gives 150 minutes and 250 texts
o2: 18 months as £29.38 per month gives just 75 minutes and 125 texts

So you get double with Orange, on exactly the same tariff rate and phone cost (give or take the odd few pence).

I'm with Orange at the moment, and want an iPhone, and have been waiting for these to be released. My initial reaction was to jump to o2 in Feb, as I get 10% corporate discount with them too, however now I've noticed this difference in the lowest level contracts, I might be better off staying with Orange - and I'll be likely to get it three months earlier too...
#16
Tbh i agree the pricing is a joke and Android will soon be better than apple imo
[mod]#17
Anyone who expected a price war was very naive.

Apple set the handset price.
#18
magicjay1986;6757212
Anyone who expected a price war was very naive.

Apple set the handset price.


More importantly, Apple set the tariff price as well as they take a cut of the line rental making it more difficult for Orange/O2 to compete with lower costs.

John
#19
Johnmcl7
More importantly, Apple set the tariff price as well as they take a cut of the line rental making it more difficult for Orange/O2 to compete with lower costs.

John


If that's the case then do Orange have any give in the tariff price for customers renewing their contract?

My Orange contract was due to expire on 11th November but I gave up waiting on the release of the iPhone and went for the Satio - Paid £50 for handset upfront and my tariff is £25pm for 600mins, unlimited txts, free Orange Maps, 500MB data per month and 2Meg home BB connection.

I'm still within the cooling off period so not quite sure what to do.
[mod]#20
Johnmcl7
More importantly, Apple set the tariff price as well as they take a cut of the line rental making it more difficult for Orange/O2 to compete with lower costs.

John


Apple are a successfull and profitable business. If they can get away with it they will do it. I seriously cannot believe how anyone would believe that there would have been a price war.

The price of 2nd hand iPhones may now increase with people unwilling to enter in to an 18/24 month contract.
#21
Johnmcl7;6757250
More importantly, Apple set the tariff price as well as they take a cut of the line rental making it more difficult for Orange/O2 to compete with lower costs.

John


No they don't.

Apple only set the handset price, the Network operators set the Line charge prices.

Apple get 100% of the handset price & the Network get 100% of the linecharge.
[mod]#22
pedro1888
If that's the case then do Orange have any give in the tariff price for customers renewing their contract?

My Orange contract was due to expire on 11th November but I gave up waiting on the release of the iPhone and went for the Satio - Paid £50 for handset upfront and my tariff is £25pm for 600mins, unlimited txts, free Orange Maps, 500MB data per month and 2Meg home BB connection.

I'm still within the cooling off period so not quite sure what to do.


Did you receive your contract instore or over the telephone?
#23
magicjay1986
Did you receive your contract instore or over the telephone?


Telephone :thumbsup: Yeah I hear they have withdrawn the cooling off period from handsets bought instore

Think i'll just stick with the Satio, only thing im disappointed in is the lack of apps but hopefully this will improve in time.
#24
The entire point of opening it up to people like Orange and Vodaphone is to encourage competition and choice..

I then purchased an iPhone 3G online.. Which i then sold just before they announced the iPhone 3GS... With a plan of purchasing straight away.. What i frankly couldn’t believe was the pricing.. Mobile phone operators, every single one.. (If not advertised, you can ring).. Will subsidize any phone on the market.

I mean i can get a phone, roughly costing £500-600 sim free.. Free on a £35 18 month contract.. You can’t with the iPhone as they don’t subsidize it enough, due to it’s popularity.. I could accept that with O2, they had exclusivity.. I just simply wasn’t willing to line their pockets anymore than i had to, so went for a HTC Touch Pro 2... But now with Orange in the mix, it seems dodgy that even in the incredibly competitive UK mobile market.. There hasn’t been any competitive pricing.
#25
Anyone know if I would be better off cancelling my Orange contract and getting an iPhone as a new customer or staying with my Orange contract and upgrading as an existing customer?
#26
i have just looked at the price plans, IT STINKS OF PRICE FIXING BETWEEN O2 AND ORANGE!!!!................im not going to get an iphone anytime soon............................lets hope vodafone do not get in to the same price fixing bed as o2 and orange
#27
thehitman
Unreliable! Not for me they haven't been.
I think it sucks that another operator is offering the iphone on practically the same tariffs (or worse) than what is already available. What happened to competition?


I called this morning, the tariffs are not the same as o2, you get a fair few more minutes and texts for your money with orange as well as a better 3G coverage which you need for the data access. the data useage is fair use policy, so they said basically nothing will happen unless you got onto several gig of usage which is unlikely.
#28
kimbyanne
Anyone know if I would be better off cancelling my Orange contract and getting an iPhone as a new customer or staying with my Orange contract and upgrading as an existing customer?


usually better joining as a new custoemr to get a better deal, if you dont mind losing your number that is!
[mod]#29
pedro1888
Telephone :thumbsup: Yeah I hear they have withdrawn the cooling off period from handsets bought instore

Think i'll just stick with the Satio, only thing im disappointed in is the lack of apps but hopefully this will improve in time.


The law has/is changing. The cooling off period usually is for distance selling under the Distance Selling Regulations.
#30
littlelaurz
usually better joining as a new custoemr to get a better deal, if you dont mind losing your number that is!


No, not really fussed.

I actually planned to cancel my contract a month or so ago anyway (when Orange changed their T&C's) but when my new PAYG Sim turned up they had just annouced the iPhone was coming to Orange so I never bothered.

I am not sure how much difference it will make if you are a new or existing customer, I wouldn't have thought they will be offering much more than the standard tariff / phone cost for something which will obviously be extremely popular.
#31
kimbyanne
No, not really fussed.

I actually planned to cancel my contract a month or so ago anyway (when Orange changed their T&C's) but when my new PAYG Sim turned up they had just annouced the iPhone was coming to Orange so I never bothered.

I am not sure how much difference it will make if you are a new or existing customer, I wouldn't have thought they will be offering much more than the standard tariff / phone cost for something which will obviously be extremely popular.


The tariffs will be the same or very similar for upgrade, if anything it will only be the handset price that will be more expensive.
may as well ring disconnections and give it a try!
#32
ChrisUK;6757436
No they don't.

Apple only set the handset price, the Network operators set the Line charge prices.

Apple get 100% of the handset price & the Network get 100% of the linecharge.


Apple are in full control of pretty much the entire deal as they knew how attractive the Iphone is to mobile phone users and therefore how desperate the networks would be to get it. They played the networks off each other setting the terms for both the handset cost and the tariff costs as well:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/sep/17/mobilephones.apple

This may be reduced now they've lost exclusivity but given Orange's near identical price it's highly likely they also have to pay a similar cut to Apple.

John
#33
Just done the math, and with my 30% corporate discount with o2, I can get their second tier 18 month contract cheaper than Orange's first tier 18 month contract, makes the phone cheaper, and I get a whole load more minutes and texts to boot.

Orange are losing me come February, unless they can come up with something pretty special on the iPhone to make me stay. Sadly for them, I don't think they'll be able to come anywhere near it.
#34
I lol'd hard, so you actually get a better deal on o2

Internet is actually unlimited on there.
#35
tigger82;6759799
Just done the math, and with my 30% corporate discount with o2, I can get their second tier 18 month contract cheaper than Orange's first tier 18 month contract, makes the phone cheaper, and I get a whole load more minutes and texts to boot.

Orange are losing me come February, unless they can come up with something pretty special on the iPhone to make me stay. Sadly for them, I don't think they'll be able to come anywhere near it.
You cant use o2 open discount on the iPhone 3G S anymore, havent been able to since around 25th June
#36
t0mm
You cant use o2 open discount on the iPhone 3G S anymore, havent been able to since around 25th June


Crap, really? That's intriguing - I did wonder if it was valid or not, however I'd have thought they'd have put that in their terms and conditions. I have double check them again today, and there's nothing mentioned...
#37
littlelaurz
I called this morning, the tariffs are not the same as o2, you get a fair few more minutes and texts for your money with orange as well as a better 3G coverage which you need for the data access. the data useage is fair use policy, so they said basically nothing will happen unless you got onto several gig of usage which is unlikely.


I didn't say the tariffs were the same but they are 'practically the same' with minor tweaks. Although the 3G coverage is better, the fair use policy is capped to 750mb. Someone was spinning you a yarn!!
#38
t0mW
I have an iPhone on O2 and so far I'm really impressed with their customer service.


really ? i have recieved nothing but TERRIBLE customer service from them!! after sending my old phone off 8 times to have it repaired even though they said after 3 repairs we will give you a brand new boxed one, but no, never recieved that, now sent my current phone off 2 times. Tbh, im not going with o2 again i dont think...
#39
danny09;6764818
really ? i have recieved nothing but TERRIBLE customer service from them!! after sending my old phone off 8 times to have it repaired even though they said after 3 repairs we will give you a brand new boxed one, but no, never recieved that, now sent my current phone off 2 times. Tbh, im not going with o2 again i dont think...

they just h4te you.

i just send off to the mfu.
#40
tigger82;6762685
Crap, really? That's intriguing - I did wonder if it was valid or not, however I'd have thought they'd have put that in their terms and conditions. I have double check them again today, and there's nothing mentioned...

Yeah, its not mentioned, when you go to get it good luck though

A few of us used it on launch day and had a fight on our hands to get it in the end, it worked out though. I get the £45pm for £30.80ish.

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