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Overpricing of PS3 and Other in the For Sale or Trade Forum

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banned#1
MattC
I've made it green again for her! :)


your a top chap 8) and left a little something for you
#2
schizoboy
It's the early adopters who pay through the nose the generate the market early and help the expansion of that market so when it is widely available its cheaper, in a way they help pay and subsidise the way for the mainstream to arrive.

People expecting brand new spanking technology to be a bargain the moment is steps onto UK soil are naive and delusional, the people paying the premium to get it early or 1st might be as well, but its their money, money which generates its own market IMHO


I think you're forgetting that the additional money for this PS3 is not going in Sony's pockets, it's going in whoever has imported or selling it. Your point is valid for the original RRP prices, but not inflated ones like this. With the PS3, it seems most people are buying them to sell on rather than actually have for themselves especially going by the average rate of games sold with console.

crazyal: I fully agree, various forums I'm seen have banned sales of PS3s or limited them to justified prices which is a fair stance to take.

John
#3
Surely if you are after the 'best' price you should bang it on eBay?
#4
Weren't eBay forbidding the sales of these due to a legal reason with Sony?
banned#5
well if thats the case for fleebay surely it should not be allowed here either, also if the item is being imported from Japan has the duty been paid on for Customs ?

Valid point schizoboy but the seller is making a big fat profit which Sony will not see a penny of
4 Likes #6
At the end of the day, the point of SELLING anything is to make profit - it would be foolish to sell a PS3 at your 'fair' price, selling at the current market value is EXACTLY the thing to do, because there is such a large profit to be made - any why not! No-one is being 'ripped off', people know what they are paying for!

In terms of who is making the money - I'm sure Sony has enough ££££££, but i'm sure they appreciate your caring for them...

J
#7
"At the end of the day" quote!

Its up to the seller to sell whatever he has at whatever price he wants to sell it at, i used top work for a furniture shop and the stock that was coming in was always put up in price for example a table lamp would cost the boss £30 but she was selling it for over £100 in the shop.

So everyone is doing what they can to make some money, who cares let them get on with it, i could see the point if this person was selling it at £900 and everywhere else was selling it at £400 but its not like that just now, its a big thing and people who want one can choose to buy one or not buy one
its a feedom of choice. :thumbsup:

Personally if i was minted and had the money and wanted one now instead of waiting yes id buy one but im not so ill just have to wait like everyone else lol
1 Like #8
First off its crazyAl not Crazygal (but hey, I may look good in a dress!)

For those saying it's not a rip-off, yes people do know what they are buying and most of the people on this forum are the savvy money-saving kind.

I call it a rip-off because sarbjeet is obviously making at least £3-400 profit on this. Don't tell me you're not, because I know what they cost and what the costs involved for import.

For info Ebay are allowing 1 sale per user, no more (supposedly)

I'll bet a pound to a penny no-one here takes up sarbjeet on this 'offer'.

@ Saxo-appeal - yes, it is up to the seller to sell at whatever price, but this is blatantly making hundreds of pounds of profit for the seller, not just a few quid on top.

It's obvious that some members here genuinely want to help other forum members out and others are out to line their fat, greedy profits from the very forum that helps them out.

As for leaving the red feedback - that was childish but nonetheless expected from such people.

I call on the Mods to ban these kind of sales from the forums - let them use Ebay for this kind of scheme.

I'd be interested in a poll to see how many members are for or against this kind of thing on the forum.
#9
i agree both with crazyAl and saxo, as they are both more than valid points.

But at the end of the day Its like my chip shop (cough) we provide large forks (as there easier to eat with) we charge 10p (extortionate maybe) but we dont have to provide them. We only provide them for the people who want them. if you dont want one dont get one. if you do you dont care about the 10p

hope this analogy (sp) is clear lol...
#10
How is anyone being ripped off if they are paying the going rate, and they aren't being mislead?

If I was to sell my Ferrari 250 GTO for £2 million because it's rare, i'm not ripping anyone off even though I didn't pay that much for it. That's what it's worth on the open market.
#11
crazyal


I'll bet a pound to a penny no-one here takes up sarbjeet on this 'offer'.




If i had the money and it was spare and had absolutely nothing to spend it on then i would say yes i would buy one but id shop around first and see if there was a cheaper one at maybe 600 or so.
#12
i agree bobbajob..i think what crazyAl is angry at is that they are selling this on a website that is designed for everyone to HELP eachother save money. And this is not doing that. But at the same time like i said i agree with everyones views, as there is no reason why this should not be available for people who may be looking for one.
#13
saxo_appeal
If i had the money and it was spare and had absolutely nothing to spend it on then i would say yes i would buy one but id shop around first and see if there was a cheaper one at maybe 600 or so.


same here :thumbsup:

I think people forget that there are some people out there with 1000's spare a month..lol...who can buy things like this without even blinking an eye, and to them, they have a good deal cos its not out yet, etc....im not one of them. but if i was, id be having this...maybe making an offer of 750 tho.
#14
A Ferrari is hardly a good analogy as a GTO was a limited run and is then made no more - PS3's are essentially a mass-produced item but are currently in short supply.

It's a rip-off however you want to justify it, specifically to other forum members.

I'm done with this subject, but I'm glad it's not just me that feels this way as other members have agreed with me and it is no doubt a subject that will raise it's head when other items become:

[email protected] - FEW IN UK - HURRY!!!**
#15
Moved posts from For Sale or Trade forum for discussion here.
#16
sarbjeet_
hi, guys im getting a 60gb playstation 3 with Ridge Racer which is arriving tommorrow from japan. as soon as i get it i will upload the pictures, if any one interested please pm me or just comment. offers starting from £825 and above please. im in west london so pick ups are welcome delivery is also available. offer over £900 DELIVERY IS FREE. if you have any questions please ask.

Regards
Sarbjeet


£900 :shock: :shock: :shock:

What planet are you living on?

I wouldn't pay a single breadcrumb over £300
#17
This is small potato's - you hear about people that happily pay £20K just to get to the front of the waiting list of a prestige car (Aston Martins, Bentleys, etc.....)

I know I'd pay a premium to get something that my son wanted for xmas or birthday - it kinda goes without saying.
#18
jcampwala
At the end of the day, the point of SELLING anything is to make profit - it would be foolish to sell a PS3 at your 'fair' price, selling at the current market value is EXACTLY the thing to do, because there is such a large profit to be made - any why not! No-one is being 'ripped off', people know what they are paying for!

In terms of who is making the money - I'm sure Sony has enough ££££££, but i'm sure they appreciate your caring for them...

J


Not really, Sony's finances aren't quite as rosy as you think plus Sony are already losing 250-350 dollars for every console sold.

John
suspended#19
IMHO the buyer knows how much and what they are paying for so its really up to them.There must be people paying this kind of money as the asking price is still around the £900 mark.Its only when buyers stop paying this kind of money the price will go down.Honestly if i could get a product for £300 and buyers are willing to pay £900 and i could make £600 profit why would i want to sell it for less and make less profit.At the end of the day there has to be a Buyer for a Seller to sell anything.:thumbsup:
#20
Snake
IMHO the buyer knows how much and what they are paying for so its really up to them.There must be people paying this kind of money as the asking price is still around the £900 mark.Its only when buyers stop paying this kind of money the price will go down.Honestly if i could get a product for £300 and buyers are willing to pay £900 and i could make £600 profit why would i want to sell it for less and make less profit.At the end of the day there has to be a Buyer for a Seller to sell anything.:thumbsup:


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I can't believe people are complaining about the sale of an item that can't be bought in the UK yet, and probably won't be until the second half of next year. Oh, wait, I forgot where I was for a second, I can totally believe it.

Supply & Demand, ladies and gentleman.
#21
IMHO he's taken a chance by buying and selling on. No one's being forced to look or buy, more fool you if you do I reckon. Nothing to see here.....:roll:
#22
What the...

No one is being FORCED to buy it. Sarbjeet (might have got that wrong) has gone to the trouble of getting it from Japan and importing it.

The one complaining about this should do the same if he wants to, not then complain because sarbjeet is making some money.

So he damn well should. I had someone moaning at me that it only cost x amoutn to post a DVD just yesterday on ebay and I was making 70 profit. WTF. If hes concerned, don't bid! Same here, don't buy!

Did
suspended#23
grdesign
What the...

No one is being FORCED to buy it. Sarbjeet (might have got that wrong) has gone to the trouble of getting it from Japan and importing it.

The one complaining about this should do the same if he wants to, not then complain because sarbjeet is making some money.

So he damn well should. I had someone moaning at me that it only cost x amoutn to post a DVD just yesterday on ebay and I was making 70 profit. WTF. If hes concerned, don't bid! Same here, don't buy!

Did


Spot on:thumbsup:
#24
grdesign
What the...

No one is being FORCED to buy it. Sarbjeet (might have got that wrong) has gone to the trouble of getting it from Japan and importing it.

The one complaining about this should do the same if he wants to, not then complain because sarbjeet is making some money.

So he damn well should. I had someone moaning at me that it only cost x amoutn to post a DVD just yesterday on ebay and I was making 70 profit. WTF. If hes concerned, don't bid! Same here, don't buy!

Did



I'm the one complaining and no-one said anything about being forced to buy it.

So you're saying he "damn-well" should make £500 profit out of other HUKD Forum members? Nice one.

You might be happy to blatantly rip-off other forum members but some us are not that way inclined.

For the record, I didn't say don't make any profit at all - but come on!!!?? £500 profit from others on the forum, others that have probably given him bargains over the time he's been here - it stinks.

Like I said before, take this kind of thing to Ebay - not blatantly rub it in the face of fellow forum members.

As for going to the "trouble of getting it imported from Japan" - what trouble?

There is no trouble whatsoever getting these things into the UK. What 'trouble' are you referring to - an extra mouse-click here and there?

No, I don't want to import one thanks - the console itself has already lost 2 Christmas holiday's to 360 and quite frankly has only it's looks going for it.

It's difficult to program as it's libraries are badly-designed (aka PS2) and has already had negative comments thrown at it by senior programmers as being graphically inferior to the 360 - one senior programmer in the industry already stating that it would have a tough time being able to run 'Gears of War'. Seeing as how GOW is seen as a 2nd-generation title, it doesnlt bode well for the big 'S' does it?

Nice to see members like Snake, grdesign & X10 agree with Sarbjeet that ripping-off, yes RIPPING OFF fellow HUKD forum members for £500 profit is acceptable. You could imagine £50 or even £100 markup, but £500!!

"Supply and Demand" doesn't quite cover it, does it X10?
1 Like #25
1. Where am I happily blantantly ripping off other members?
2. This is the GOING RATE for PS3's here in the UK. Have seen them selling for over £1000 on ebay, so it actually is cheaper.
3. It hardly stinks.

Come on, what's with the post about this? He's asking the going rate, and if it's so easy to import why are people in the UK buying the imported and 'pricey' ones?

Seriously give it up and stop slagging off members you know nothing about. He's asking for the going rate and thats that.

As for members agreeing with each other, are we all supposed to agree with you? Pardon me, my mistake.
suspended 1 Like #26
crazyal


Nice to see members like Snake, grdesign & X10 agree with Sarbjeet that ripping-off, yes RIPPING OFF fellow HUKD forum members for £500 profit is acceptable. You could imagine £50 or even £100 markup, but £500!!


I understand what your saying crazyal but
I don't see how Sarbjeet is ripping people off as he is not hiding anything.He has a Product(A high demand product) and a Price.Now itsup to the Buyer to accept his offer or walkaway.Honestly if you could sell something for £900 would you sell it for £300?
1 Like #27
@grdesign

Try reading the post - you agree with Sarbjeet that making £500 out of HUKD members is acceptable. I did not state that you were ripping off other members.

Seriously, I'll do what I want until a mod tells me otherwise - ever heard of free speech? Obviously not.

Pardon you? OK, just this once, you all make mistakes.

@snake - I never once said he was hiding anything at all. I'm totally sure it's a genuine sale. What I'm fundamentally against is HUKD members blatantly making an obscene amount of profit from other HUKD members. A community that is about sharing the latest bargain info - not offering some item that costs exactly the same off Ebay. If he wants to make that kind of fat profit, let him do it on Ebay - don't rub it in peoples faces on here. He wasn't even offering at a special price for members, just the same rate as elsewhere! That's where I was coming from originally.
#28
Just this once? Wow, cheers dude.

I just cannot see your problem and why your getting so upset. You made him an offer and he turned you down so your out to slag him off all you can?
#29
I have 2 questions for you crazyal

1:
crazyal
"Supply and Demand" doesn't quite cover it, does it X10?


Why not?

2: From all your posts, the only thing I can understand to be your objection is that it's not okay to ask that kind of markup for a PS3 console from HotUKDeals Members is that correct?

X10
#30
Do the terms of the For Sale thread state that items must be sold below their actual value ?
suspended#31
@snake -...... He wasn't even offering at a special price for members,[/QUOTE]

Does this special price apply to all the items in the For Sale thread for members or just this PS3?
1 Like #32
Why should he, in all reality offer it at a special price!? £900 is actually pretty good, especially as we can pick it up!
#33
It actually isn't a bad price when compared to others out there, I wouldn't pay it myself, but different things for different people.

One thing worth mentioning though is that sony's build quality is notoriously ****, particularly in early model consoles, so if you buy one of these things now, don't expect it to still be working perfectly in 4-5 years time.
#34
Hmmm, I really don't understand these accusations of "rip-off".

No-one's being forced to pay this amount. If you think it's too much then it's not exactly difficult to ignore the thread is it ?

At the end of the day, there's a fair chance that some-one may be willing to pay that amount and will be happy and grateful for thier purchase (I wouldn't personally pay anything like that amount, but that's entirely beside the point).
With that in mind, why not list it here on the off-chance ?

This isn't the "hot-deals" part of the site, the PS3 was listed on the "For sale or trade" forum, and people listing on this part of the site can ask whatever price they feel like or think they might get, surely ?

Maybe I'm in the wrong here, but I always assumed this part of the site was basically the equivalent of the classified section in local newspapers or LOOT.
I doubt many newspaper/LOOT editors get complaints from people saying "That guy's asking way too much for that item and he's trying to rip people off. Do something about it !"

I'd feel the same way if the seller was asking £5,000.
No-one's being forced to buy it, so if you're not happy with the price, just ignore the thread.
#35
As has been said many times now, this is the for sale section, and people ARE buying PS3's at the asking price AND MORE. Well done on getting a PS3 to all those people out there, i'd LOVE to have one! (just not £800 worth of love, but thats my decision to make, just like someone who will buy it!)

BTW, I like how I went down to a negative rep for expressing my opinion, without being rude to anyone. Thanks guys :|

J
banned 1 Like #36
supply and demand or what ever you want to call it, in my book its called GREED and nothing more, having got a mate or who ever to bring it over, no doubt not paid the import duty on customs?, but to some thats free enterprise.

It doesnt have a place on here as I thought this site was called hot deals , not the chance to charge some over inflated price to line your own pocket, oh and still cash in on any deals that others scour the net and papers to pass on.
#37
dog_cop
supply and demand or what ever you want to call it, in my book its called GREED and nothing more, having got a mate or who ever to bring it over, no doubt not paid the import duty on customs?, but to some thats free enterprise.

It doesnt have a place on here as I thought this site was called hot deals , not the chance to charge some over inflated price to line your own pocket, oh and still cash in on any deals that others scour the net and papers to pass on.


So he should offer it for cost price to us, because we happen to be on a forum we did not pay for, do not pay for financially?

Plus, he does not know us personally?

Crazy.
#38
I think we should just ignore what the OP has for sale and if he sells it then fine, personally i dont think he will.
Yes dog_cop your right this place is for hot deals which means the OP doesnt have a chance of selling it on here as everyone is looking for good bargains.

Lets forget about it and chill out.......what we should be arguing about is where the best place for an Xbox 360 is ? :friends:
banned 1 Like #39
grdesign
So he should offer it for cost price to us, because we happen to be on a forum we did not pay for, do not pay for financially?

Plus, he does not know us personally?

Crazy.


the only thing the seller wants to do is make a massive profit..

is he buying it for himself ..NO
for his children ... No
Is he telling the members here of a way to get a ps 3 cheap. NO WAY
self greed ... YES

this will run and run and everyone has a view
#40
For all those who find this acceptable, how would you feel if you'd queued all night to buy a PS3 only to find someone further up in the queue bought all ten to sell them for a large profit? It's good to see ebay have taken a seemingly sensible stance on this but still the percentage of PS3s sold just to be sold on again at large profit must be a joke.

John

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