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As someone who doesn't celebrate Christmas can I ask what compels you all to buy so many gifts for your children? We have 3 eids in a year and usually give the kids a tenner each and a small gift … Read More
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6m, 5d agoPosted 6 months, 5 days ago
As someone who doesn't celebrate Christmas can I ask what compels you all to buy so many gifts for your children?

We have 3 eids in a year and usually give the kids a tenner each and a small gift no more than £10 each and I feel that more than suffices. sometimes they get a joint gift like the xbox one s we just got but just happened to coincide with another eid (way over gift budget but kids wanted for ages). We don't spend hundreds on food either but have large extended families who all come round to eat and each child tends to get a fiver. I just don't understand and maybe it's a cultural thing but our main gift growing up was new clothes on eid which we looked forward to so much.

What is it about Christmas that makes you guys spend so much. I've noticed many muslims also going the many gifts route recently which is not the point of eid and I assume neither is xmas about gifts but spending quality time with family.

then there's the moaning Oh it's costing me so much, or I've had to save up all year. We live on a very modest income having a one earner household and I don't save up all year for eid or the like.

not trying to start a heated debate but genuinely just curious as when I was growing up I don't remember my friend's going on about 15 odd gifts but just one or two.
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eslick
...as I said not sure what to make of this thread.

If you remove all the religious nonsense, then the question is, "Why do you buy [so many] gifts for your Children?".

Answer: Have a party, invite all your family, & get them to bring cash with them.

Result: £Profit.
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eslick
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eslick
...as I said not sure what to make of this thread.
If you remove all the religious nonsense, then the question is, "Why do you buy [so many] gifts for your Children?".
Answer: Have a party, invite all your family, & get them to bring cash with them.
Result: £Profit.

Was reading the other day about a company that gave Christmas hampers to all of its staff for over 100 years, this year to avoid offending anyone they are giving Holiday Hampers.


I don't see why an xmas hamper would offend anyone.
If I give out eid hampers would that offend non muslims? crazy world we live in
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Growing up in the 70s/80s I got one main present and a few little extras usually from a charity shop.
Things have changed massively now, we have more disposable income and lots of things are much cheaper. Children have also got used to getting 'stuff' more often than just birthdays and Christmas as in the 'good old days'.
Christmas is now about consumption and we all feel pressured into giving our children as much as we can, because many of us had pretty lean Christmases in the past!
I try to give my children a 'reasonable' amount of gifts, I don't go crazy because I can't afford to, but I can understand why some people do.
Times have changed, as is inevitable.

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1 Like #1
Isn't it two Eids per year...?
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Mermoo
Isn't it two Eids per year...?


We celebrate the birth of our Prophet also which to us is an eid. many muslims don't but that's a discussion for another thread.
1 Like #3
Mermoo
Isn't it two Eids per year...?


We celebrate the birth of our Prophet also which to us is an eid. many muslims don't but that's a discussion for another thread.
1 Like #4
not sure what to make from your comments, kid have always had loads of presents for decades and decades and if people want to spend their money on something that's for them, if a tenner is ok for you then that's ok as well.

after all its Christmas one time of the year for excess, maybe your next question is why do we eat so much, drink so much, as I said not sure what to make of this thread.
#5
I personally buy my child gifts for Xmas and his bday that he will use throughout the year, as he doesn't get anything at any other time. it seems like a lot, but includes clothes, shoes etc.
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eslick
...as I said not sure what to make of this thread.

If you remove all the religious nonsense, then the question is, "Why do you buy [so many] gifts for your Children?".

Answer: Have a party, invite all your family, & get them to bring cash with them.

Result: £Profit.
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eslick
not sure what to make from your comments, kid have always had loads of presents for decades and decades and if people want to spend their money on something that's for them, if a tenner is ok for you then that's ok as well.

after all its Christmas one time of the year for excess, maybe your next question is why do we eat so much, drink so much, as I said not sure what to make of this thread.



Thanks for replying but my question was actually why do people feel compelled to spend so much. because many threads on here I see people complaining that things cost too much etc. Maybe it's just me but you hear things like I've been saving up all year and I can't afford so and so gift for my child which is the in thing right now. If I don't get it my child will be so upset that all their friends have it and the like.
I've always been taught to live within my means and that's what we've taught our kids doesn't mean we don't aspire to better things.
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eslick
...as I said not sure what to make of this thread.
If you remove all the religious nonsense, then the question is, "Why do you buy [so many] gifts for your Children?".
Answer: Have a party, invite all your family, & get them to bring cash with them.
Result: £Profit.

Was reading the other day about a company that gave Christmas hampers to all of its staff for over 100 years, this year to avoid offending anyone they are giving Holiday Hampers.

Edited By: eslick on Dec 16, 2016 18:14
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welshgirl1983
I personally buy my child gifts for Xmas and his bday that he will use throughout the year, as he doesn't get anything at any other time. it seems like a lot, but includes clothes, shoes etc.


That's great and I bet you're not complaining about how much you've had to spend or trying to keep up with all the current trends.
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eslick
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eslick
...as I said not sure what to make of this thread.
If you remove all the religious nonsense, then the question is, "Why do you buy [so many] gifts for your Children?".
Answer: Have a party, invite all your family, & get them to bring cash with them.
Result: £Profit.

Was reading the other day about a company that gave Christmas hampers to all of its staff for over 100 years, this year to avoid offending anyone they are giving Holiday Hampers.


I don't see why an xmas hamper would offend anyone.
If I give out eid hampers would that offend non muslims? crazy world we live in
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adhkarzf
welshgirl1983
I personally buy my child gifts for Xmas and his bday that he will use throughout the year, as he doesn't get anything at any other time. it seems like a lot, but includes clothes, shoes etc.
That's great and I bet you're not complaining about how much you've had to spend or trying to keep up with all the current trends.

why do you say its a trend?
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eslick
...as I said not sure what to make of this thread.

If you remove all the religious nonsense, then the question is, "Why do you buy [so many] gifts for your Children?".

Answer: Have a party, invite all your family, & get them to bring cash with them.

Result: £Profit.


That's actually what we do for family members children as the cash is more useful and they can get what the child needs rather than something we might give which they have no need for or want.
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eslick
adhkarzf
welshgirl1983
I personally buy my child gifts for Xmas and his bday that he will use throughout the year, as he doesn't get anything at any other time. it seems like a lot, but includes clothes, shoes etc.
That's great and I bet you're not complaining about how much you've had to spend or trying to keep up with all the current trends.

why do you say its a trend?


what am I calling a trend? I think you've misunderstood me I was referring to trends like hatchimals which parents are desperately trying to get hold of. welshgirl doesn't seem to be falling for those kinds of trends rather getting what her child needs
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eslick
...as I said not sure what to make of this thread.
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If you remove all the religious nonsense, then the question is, "Why do you buy [so many] gifts for your Children?".

Answer: Have a party, invite all your family, & get them to bring cash with them.

Result: £Profit.
adhkarzf
That's actually what we do for family members children as the cash is more useful and they can get what the child needs rather than something we might give which they have no need for or want.

I knew I had read that somewhere recently. Thanks. :{

Seriously, if that works for you, that's fine.

When kids gets to a certain age they prefer money anyway.
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eslick
...as I said not sure what to make of this thread.
fanpages
If you remove all the religious nonsense, then the question is, "Why do you buy [so many] gifts for your Children?".

Answer: Have a party, invite all your family, & get them to bring cash with them.

Result: £Profit.
adhkarzf
That's actually what we do for family members children as the cash is more useful and they can get what the child needs rather than something we might give which they have no need for or want.

I knew I had read that somewhere recently. Thanks. :{

Seriously, if that works for you, that's fine.

When kids gets to a certain age they prefer money anyway.


As children we used to go round the street and get loads of dosh and be fed was great. me and my brothers would count up the loot at the end of the day and me being the youngest and only girl would always have the most.
1 Like #16
I think it's just that everyone loves getting gifts and obviously one has to return the favour. .it's up to people individually what they want to spend...I just stick to £ 5-8 gifts for each of my friends and I receive about the same in return and it just increases the love...giving each other gifts increases the love between one another ...it doesn't have to be diamonds just a box of chocolates or a scented candle is good enough in my opinion..
#17
I buy my son things he will like, and things he will need, I don't spend huge amounts but not a little either, why? because of the joy it will bring him, I love to see the smile on his face each time he opens something. I don't care about trends, or what other children are getting, although he is only 3 so thats not a big issue yet.
#18
adhkarzf
eslick
not sure what to make from your comments, kid have always had loads of presents for decades and decades and if people want to spend their money on something that's for them, if a tenner is ok for you then that's ok as well.

after all its Christmas one time of the year for excess, maybe your next question is why do we eat so much, drink so much, as I said not sure what to make of this thread.



Thanks for replying but my question was actually why do people feel compelled to spend so much. because many threads on here I see people complaining that things cost too much etc. Maybe it's just me but you hear things like I've been saving up all year and I can't afford so and so gift for my child which is the in thing right now. If I don't get it my child will be so upset that all their friends have it and the like.
I've always been taught to live within my means and that's what we've taught our kids doesn't mean we don't aspire to better things.


i think for most its just to keep up with friends and kids friends.
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adhkarzf
welshgirl1983
I personally buy my child gifts for Xmas and his bday that he will use throughout the year, as he doesn't get anything at any other time. it seems like a lot, but includes clothes, shoes etc.


That's great and I bet you're not complaining about how much you've had to spend or trying to keep up with all the current trends.


no not complaining at all, it's a pleasure, I save or buy things throughout the year at half price too. if a child has lots of presents at Xmas ...... who cares ........ it's more special then for those special celebrations and they appreciate them more if they don't get spoilt throughout the year too. I hope to carry this on ........ and will not (never say never) adhere to peer pressure
1 Like #20
things are cheaper now then they used to be in the eighties.
you have pound shops, amazon, cheap electrical goods,5 pound raspberry pis, ebay, cashconvertors to trade in you old stuff, gumtree, 20 pound quadcopters
no need to spend a fortune , sometimes spending less gets you more.
my nephews have x box ones and loads of 40 pound games, but they learn nothing about computers / creative thoughts
#21
afnoor
I think it's just that everyone loves getting gifts and obviously one has to return the favour. .it's up to people individually what they want to spend...I just stick to £ 5-8 gifts for each of my friends and I receive about the same in return and it just increases the love...giving each other gifts increases the love between one another ...it doesn't have to be diamonds just a box of chocolates or a scented candle is good enough in my opinion..


I also do this, for family members and friends ....... Doesn't matter if I get in return, I just like giving a gift ...... also doesn't matter if that gits costs £1 or £20!
#22
welshgirl1983
afnoor
I think it's just that everyone loves getting gifts and obviously one has to return the favour. .it's up to people individually what they want to spend...I just stick to £ 5-8 gifts for each of my friends and I receive about the same in return and it just increases the love...giving each other gifts increases the love between one another ...it doesn't have to be diamonds just a box of chocolates or a scented candle is good enough in my opinion..


I also do this, for family members and friends ....... Doesn't matter if I get in return, I just like giving a gift ...... also doesn't matter if that gits costs £1 or £20!


Like myself I love to give and tend to make my own gifts or spend about £5 but I don't care if I get anything in return its the joy of giving. my hubby doesn't understand why I keep spending his cash on relatives lol. recently been baking loads of cupcakes to gift which means I can do something I enjoy and they get to eat something tasty :)
1 Like #23
some really great responses on the thread thank you guys
#24
Humbug.
#25
it's why I use hukd to buy many cheap
1 Like #26
People today have more money than they did years ago, also credit is readily available and, as lumsdot has pointed out, most things are a lot cheaper than they used to be, especially electrical and technology. Thats why people spend so much more at Xmas than they used to.
Are kids today better off though? Not sure about that....
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Delbert Grady
People today have more money than they did years ago...

Well, not as much as I had before the patter of little feet requiring new shoes every six months.
4 Likes #28
My son wanted a specific book for Christmas . I got it second hand from Amazon for 8p . It's the thought that counts after all . As I said in another thread , I give him a budget . He's well under this year
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Delbert Grady
People today have more money than they did years ago...
Well, not as much as I had before the patter of little feet requiring new shoes every six months.


So true, earn more money now that before the kids turned up and have less cash how does that work :)
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Delbert Grady
People today have more money than they did years ago...
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Well, not as much as I had before the patter of little feet requiring new shoes every six months.
eslick
So true, earn more money now that before the kids turned up and have less cash how does that work :)

I blame the closure of coal mines & the lack of chimneys.
banned 1 Like #31
I've never bought into the ridiculous amounts of money spent on presents. My son's list.

1. Nintendo micro Gameboy charger
2. Nintendo Gameboy SP charger
3. Hive Pocket game

In that order of importance.

It's birthdays that I splash out. His last birthday he got a Gameboy SP and a Gameboy micro
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Growing up in the 70s/80s I got one main present and a few little extras usually from a charity shop.
Things have changed massively now, we have more disposable income and lots of things are much cheaper. Children have also got used to getting 'stuff' more often than just birthdays and Christmas as in the 'good old days'.
Christmas is now about consumption and we all feel pressured into giving our children as much as we can, because many of us had pretty lean Christmases in the past!
I try to give my children a 'reasonable' amount of gifts, I don't go crazy because I can't afford to, but I can understand why some people do.
Times have changed, as is inevitable.
1 Like #33
cchopps
I've never bought into the ridiculous amounts of money spent on presents. My son's list.
1. Nintendo micro Gameboy charger
2. Nintendo Gameboy SP charger
3. Hive Pocket game
In that order of importance.
It's birthdays that I splash out. His last birthday he got a Gameboy SP and a Gameboy micro

...and can't recharge them until next weekend.
banned#34
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cchopps
I've never bought into the ridiculous amounts of money spent on presents. My son's list.
1. Nintendo micro Gameboy charger
2. Nintendo Gameboy SP charger
3. Hive Pocket game
In that order of importance.
It's birthdays that I splash out. His last birthday he got a Gameboy SP and a Gameboy micro
...and can't recharge them until next weekend.

His birthday was in February
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cchopps
I've never bought into the ridiculous amounts of money spent on presents. My son's list.
1. Nintendo micro Gameboy charger
2. Nintendo Gameboy SP charger
3. Hive Pocket game
In that order of importance.
It's birthdays that I splash out. His last birthday he got a Gameboy SP and a Gameboy micro
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...and can't recharge them until next weekend.
cchopps
His birthday was in February

http://www.pamalam.co.uk/A/Parent_of_the_year.jpg
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Delbert Grady
People today have more money than they did years ago...
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Well, not as much as I had before the patter of little feet requiring new shoes every six months.
eslick
So true, earn more money now that before the kids turned up and have less cash how does that work :)
I blame the closure of coal mines & the lack of chimneys.
You forgot brexit
1 Like #37
merdoom
Growing up in the 70s/80s I got one main present and a few little extras usually from a charity shop.
Things have changed massively now, we have more disposable income and lots of things are much cheaper. Children have also got used to getting 'stuff' more often than just birthdays and Christmas as in the 'good old days'.
Christmas is now about consumption and we all feel pressured into giving our children as much as we can, because many of us had pretty lean Christmases in the past!
I try to give my children a 'reasonable' amount of gifts, I don't go crazy because I can't afford to, but I can understand why some people do.
Times have changed, as is inevitable.


I would say that explains it mostly in a nutshell.
banned#38
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cchopps
I've never bought into the ridiculous amounts of money spent on presents. My son's list.
1. Nintendo micro Gameboy charger
2. Nintendo Gameboy SP charger
3. Hive Pocket game
In that order of importance.
It's birthdays that I splash out. His last birthday he got a Gameboy SP and a Gameboy micro
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...and can't recharge them until next weekend.
cchopps
His birthday was in February
http://www.pamalam.co.uk/A/Parent_of_the_year.jpg


He actually managed to mislay both the chargers, which is really annoying as both were pretty much mint in their respective boxes, and the SP has the better AGS101 screen. I told him he would need to wait until Xmas for the relevant chargers hoping he would start to look for the originals. They're around somewhere though
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cchopps
He actually managed to mislay both the chargers, which is really annoying as both were pretty much mint in their respective boxes, and the SP has the better AGS101 screen. I told him he would need to wait until Xmas for the relevant chargers hoping he would start to look for the originals. They're around somewhere though

They will turn up on Boxing Day when he puts the new ones in his bedroom.
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Delbert Grady
People today have more money than they did years ago...
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Well, not as much as I had before the patter of little feet requiring new shoes every six months.
eslick
So true, earn more money now that before the kids turned up and have less cash how does that work :)
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I blame the closure of coal mines & the lack of chimneys.
psychobitchfromhell
You forgot brexit

They dislike brussels at Christmas as much as they dislike them at any other time of the year.

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