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parking outside my house-advice please

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7y, 7m agoPosted 7 years, 7 months ago
hey folks

our next door neighbours have 2 cars. we have 2. we have space outside our house for one and one in the drive way.
same as they do next door.

yesterday afternoon, the daughter next door parked her micra on the opposite side of the road to our front window, with 2 wheels on the pavement. the front of their house and their driveway was free.
so when my girlfriend came to park outside our house in her normal spot, it blocked both sides of the road, partially. not enough to let another car through the middle.
as was demonstrated when someone else followed her into the street and couldnt get past.
as our drive was being used, my GF had no choice but to back up and park outside next door's house.
she did not restrict access to their driveway.
she got up extra early to move her car but lo & behold, the micra was still there and when my gf got in her car to move it, the mother next door started a tirade of abuse at us about parking in front of her house and apparently blocking her driveway. which we werent.
a quick search on the net found that its very frowned upon to block someones driveway but its not causing an illegal obstruction unless there is a car on it that needs to exit.
apparently you have no right to stop people parking infront of your drive when its not in use.

GFs car was moved, thus blocking the road again. little while later the micra was moved and then placed in their front path.
when my GF left for uni i walked out with her only to be confronted again by the screaming pyscho woman calling us all sorts and trying to justify her daughters car parking by saying that they had visitors on sunday parked infront of their house and the drive was being left open for her son who works away to come home and leave his car in.
i calmly said that wasnt an excuse and that she had left us no choice but to park our car infront of her house, which is well within our rights.
she then went MENTAAAAAAAAL and started threatening my GF that if she ever parks there again she'll knock her out. I said that such threats may be reported to the police. she told me to do so and then said that if her son or husband were there, I wouldnt be standing, i'd be on the floor unconcious.
i said that was 2 more threats of physical violence towards me. though I secretly wanted to say "your husband who left you for a younger woman and your son who couldnt fight the tide in the bath?"
I told her to calm down and that she was making a show of herself.
she continued in such a high voice that only dogs could hear.
then called me an arsehole, told me to f-off and said she was ringing the council to make sure my GF and I are 'registered to live here'.
despite the fact that I have lived in this house since I was 2....

anyways she ranted in her house so loud that i could still hear her and what she and her kids plan to do is if my GF parks anywhere past the boundry of our house, is to deliberately box her car in with theirs.

surely this must be illegal too?

i've tried to reason with her. i've been working in customer service almost all my working life (i'm 32) and i also train in several martial arts that require a lot of patience.
any advice?
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7y, 7m agoPosted 7 years, 7 months ago
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#1
What a nightmare! Basically they dont have a leg to stand on if all your gf was doing was parking outside their house. I have people park outside my house all the time but I dont give a toss as long as they dont get in the way of my drive.
I lived in a house last year where the neighbour put a sign in her window ordering people to not park outside her house, sorry but I found it laughable. They dont own that part of land its the council who does so i would tell her to speak 2 them in future. If they block your car in then call the police
banned#2
any unnecessary obstruction which is on the queens highway and it can get ticketed and towed away..
as for making threats to what they may do to your car is another matter.. I have a feeling that house builders nowadays dont have to give you parking spots .. but thats something I would not know about ..
banned#3
neighours like this are a flaming nightmare!!

the woman sounds like she has anger problems, she could have just come and ased your gf to move her car instead of sitting watching for her lol!!

hope you get it sorted!
#4
should have followed up with what was in your head

"your husband who left you for a younger woman and your son who couldnt fight the tide in the bath?"

lol

but seriously if you not in the wrong at all, ignore her and just carry on as normal she'll eventually either get the picture that your not scared of silly threats and are not in the wrong, or she'll do something silly and then you can report her. One thing you could do is keep a log of any incidents, maybe with photos or video evidence, that way you can follow up abny complaint you or she may make
#5
There is no reasoning with some people, I've a far bit f experience in CSR too & I think you and I both know this doll is clearly just a lunatic.

I'd hope that here son/husband hits you so you can sue, but in reality it's going to be easier to avoid confrontations as they tend to get messy with these loud mouth irritable types.
#6
sounds like you have nice neighbours. you only buy the house not the space infront park where you like and keep a diary of all the threats and abuse, if that doesnt work kick the $h!t out of the sons one by one
#7
bfjem
should have followed up with what was in your head

"your husband who left you for a younger woman and your son who couldnt fight the tide in the bath?"

lol

but seriously if you not in the wrong at all, ignore her and just carry on as normal she'll eventually either get the picture that your not scared of silly threats and are not in the wrong, or she'll do something silly and then you can report her. One thing you could do is keep a log of any incidents, maybe with photos or video evidence, that way you can follow up abny complaint you or she may make

Good advice I would definately do this
#8
Report her to the Police

Parking issues aside you can't have degenerate morons threatening you outside your own home. Reporting it now will stop any "your word against hers" issues that may arise if anything else happens
#9
Ring the council and ask where you stand is all I can think of.

I have to put up with people parking outside my house when they have their own driveways free which can fit 4 cars on and it does my head in.

I'm tempted to buy some yellow paint and mark out some lines!!!
banned#10
Yeh just phone the police if she blocks you in, take a picture too...

It will frighten the life out of her lol
#11
bfjem
One thing you could do is keep a log of any incidents, maybe with photos or video evidence, that way you can follow up abny complaint you or she may make


If it ever does come down to the police/council then this will work heavily in your favour, and I wouldn't be surprised if she is planning on doing something similar
#12
sounds like a nightmare!

TBH I think you're best off not reacting to it, just get your g/f to carry a camcorder or a camera that can video with her for a bit and film the woman if she starts ranting again....she won't like that and gives you evidence if things escalate.
banned#13
student_mummy;5047139
Yeh just phone the police if she blocks you in, take a picture too...

It will frighten the life out of her lol

what sort of car does she have :whistling:
#14
personally i would report her to the police, some people you just cannot reason with and when the police turn up and warn her and inform her you haven't broken any law she might calm down.
I would keep an eye on your car as she might target that next and if she has already been reported although not nice when reported again the police will have to act.

Hope you get this all sorted (if this fails then i would beat the living snot out her husband and son but hey thats just me)
#15
We had a problem like this in our first house, it ended with the neighbour attacking me and causing me real injury and we then had to move. He was prosecuted but it took years for the mental scars to heal. At one time he physically moved our car while we were in the back garden causing much damage.
While you may be in your rights parking there sometimes it really is not worth the possibilty of them becoming violent, if possible when you are calmer call round and try to sort an agreement that you are both happy with, maybe that if it happens again you will knock and they will move onto drive for you? Or even that you will not park in front of their house and they will not park in front of yours.
car parking must be one of the biggest cause of neighbour disputes, you have my sympathy.
#16
I used to own a parking space which was off road but the entrance of which wasnt restricted by 2 yellow lines just a single one.. obviously I had inconsiderate kn*bs parking there and blockin me in 24/7.. When I rang the police they sent a tow truck and hauled their ***** away!! Worth a try but Id say document everything with photos or video... sounds a bit paranoid but if your neighbour is as crazy as she sounds then you never know where it might go and its always best to have evidence!
#17
sounds to me like she needs seeing to if you know what I mean, ay? wink wink nudge nudge :)
#18
hutchir9
personally i would report her to the police, some people you just cannot reason with and when the police turn up and warn her and inform her you haven't broken any law she might calm down.
I would keep an eye on your car as she might target that next and if she has already been reported although not nice when reported again the police will have to act.

Hope you get this all sorted (if this fails then i would beat the living snot out her husband and son but hey thats just me)


I would advice against contacting the police unless a law has actually been broken, as they hate time wasting and are more likely to ignore further complaints. The best thing is to show reason, stay calm, and log everything with evidence...you wont be int the wrong and will have everything you need to take this further if needs be :thumbsup:
#19
Leave a post it note on her door calling her a "dirty pirate hooker".


That'll learn her.



That'll learn her good!
banned#20
you could wire up your car to the mains if you had a lamp-post near by
or gun turrets on the top of your house ..
just an idea
#21
what a nightmare - parking in roads is a never ending nightmare - i live in a private road which causes even more problems because there are no set rules and also have to deal with these jumped up neighbours that have nothing better to with their time but the cause a scene about a car. unfortuantely for her as other people have stated there is nothing she can do as she doesnt own the road - not even the pavement - only up to where her garden ends. so where as it is common curteosy not to park in front of someones else house sometimes it is unavoidable. find a webpage that clearly highlights the rules regarding this and stick it on the car window if you have to park there again! good luck!
#22
dog_cop
you could wire up your car to the mains if you had a lamp-post near by
or gun turrets on the top of your house ..
just an idea


Is that the police's official stance on the matter officer? :-D
#23
mbgringo
Leave a post it note on her door calling her a "dirty pirate hooker".


That'll learn her.



That'll learn her good!


wow, that's harsh!! :)
#24
ChipSticks
wow, that's harsh!! :)


No half measures with these people . . . . . :thumbsup:
#25
leave it and see if anything happens as she probably got very defensive due to embaressment (sounds the type) so it may not happen again but keep diary of insuts and incidents and if persists then contact police, council etc
#26
Neighbour I had once moaned about me parking in "her" space, I had only been there a day and there was no obvious markings, we clashed a few more times, the last day I was there I hired a skip on her parking space for the week. I can tell you she wasn't very happy
banned#27
mbgringo;5047298
Is that the police's official stance on the matter officer? :-D

might be or even better..
go to the local zoo and hire some crocodile`s and have them wandering up and down the street for a few hours ...
bargin or what.. some top ideas me thinks :thumbsup:
#28
[QUOTE=mbgringo]Leave a post it note on her door calling her a "dirty pirate hooker".


That'll learn her.



or even better put an add in the local paper with her address on , that would be fun
#29
Has she converted a Garden to a drive or was it already built with the house.?

If the first one, ring your local council, find out if they have planning permisson for converstion , lowering the kerb( if they have)

Having a drive does NOT allow you the right to stop other parking infront of it. ( It just just polite not too) All roads are owned by the highways department of local council ( unless private owned) There is nothing legal she can do.
Her daughter parking half on and off the kerb is more of an issue. This could be reported and it restricts use of a public path.

I would get the threats LOGGED with the police AND with the Council ( especially if they are council tenants) logging threats will back up any case you may need in the future.

You can also contact your local council to ask for a letter to be sent to them explaining they have NO power or rights to restrict you from parking on a road outside her property. ( unless its yellow lines of course!! )


GOod luck
#30
dont ring police try this number they were helpful when we had a neighbour who liked to do car mechanics at midnight with music!! And I was in a ground floor flat with a baby. Some people just dont think So glad its quiet where we are now! http://www.101.gov.uk/ If available in your area!
Also have your phone on record, if you have this, and record the mad woman!
#31
Use your martial arts and chop her down a peg or two
#32
Her daughter parking half on and off the kerb is more of an issue. This could be reported and it restricts use of a public path.

This is important, if you do call the police make sure your car is parked legally and not half on half off the kerb

If you don't do this and she does you could report her for this as it obstructs a visitor you have in a wheelchair for example.

It won't learn her by the way, but it might teach her a lesson!!!
#33
If she threatens your girlfriend again phone the police, in the meantime I'd try and **** her off.
#34
where do you live I'll come and park outside and see if she says somthing to me!!! lol I'm sorry but like she said she'd get other people to do the job of being violent to you. I'd of called her a sh** bag for not doing the job herself what makes it worse is you have to live next to the freak!!!
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its not council property at all.
she is obsessed with knowing if we're 'registered' to live here. which i dont know what that means.
we're on the electoral roll but we claim no benefits of any kind.
the house is actually my dads and privately owned by him. paid off too.
no mortgage outstanding.

i was doign nothing to provoke her cos my martial arts club has a very strict rule about street confrontations.
if it could've been walked away from, and you didnt...yer out.

thanks for the advice we'll just keep documenting it.
i did take a pic of my GFs car parked on the road and her daughters half on the pavement.
thats a start.
#36
tbh she sounds like a scumbag - if possible id have a camera on low quality monitoring my car incase of mysterious events.
#37
Judo chop the beach.

Go to the coucil/police with her threatening behaviour. It was her daughter then that was blocking the other side of the road, or another neighbour?

This woman sounds like a psycho, and it one of your typical neighbours from hell. Sorry to hear it :(
#38
slackrat77
its not council property at all.
she is obsessed with knowing if we're 'registered' to live here. which i dont know what that means.
we're on the electoral roll but we claim no benefits of any kind.
the house is actually my dads and privately owned by him. paid off too.
no mortgage outstanding.

i was doign nothing to provoke her cos my martial arts club has a very strict rule about street confrontations.
if it could've been walked away from, and you didnt...yer out.

thanks for the advice we'll just keep documenting it.
i did take a pic of my GFs car parked on the road and her daughters half on the pavement.
thats a start.



Be sure to gather plenty of evidence - Photos are great for proof, also keep a tape recorder in your pocket to record your conversations - when she's screaming at you and so on, that'll go brilliantly if it goes to the police, hearing her threaten with violence etc.
#39
first leg of harassment completed. Police could issue her a harassment notice and if it happens again, this will make it a "course of conduct" and she will be arrested. This is one option
When she has calmed down, you could try and broach the subject again to work out how the issue can be resolved, option 2
option 3, ignore her and hope it goes away
In law you cant have an imaginary obstruction. There has to actually be one, there are 2 offences that would be looked at here, unnecesary obstruction and wilful obstruction, off the top of my head, I think they are Non-endorsable fixed penalty notices amounting to £30. This may solve the problem.
Sounds to me like she is quite unreasonable and as she has threatened you, that is another offence under section 4 public order act - threatening behaviour and or section 5, disorderly conduct. There is also be a breach of the peace. Enough offences yet? I can think of a few more if you like
Contact your local CBM, community beat manager and ask to speak to them about the issue. They may be able to helpin offering "suitable advice" to your neighbour. issue is then logged and you can have an incident number for use with any further issues
if you need anything else, let me know, I like your attitude towards her though and rep left accordingly
#40
police turned up at theirs last night around 10pm. the wife stood outside and gave them the account from her POV, then they knocked on our door at 11.20pm. i told them i wasnt happy being called upon when I was heading to bed (i had work this morning) for something so trivial.
they said they just wanted it from my GFs POV too. I said she was already in bed asleep and I would answer their questions.
I re-told the story. psycho wife had lied and said we WERE blocking her drive way and she had a photo to prove it but the photo was on the daughters phone and the daughter wasnt in.
I said she was in cos I could hear her TV coming through the wall into my back bedroom (my back bedroom and the daughters bedroom next door are seperated by a single wall).
police said they were told she wasnt in so they couldnt see the photo.
i said my GF wasnt parked infront of their drive way, told there next doors car was parked 2 wheels on the pavement which is an obstruction of public highway and they agreed.
i said that as far as I knew no one owns the road outside their house when they buy the house and we could legally park infront of next doors house if no room was available infront of ours, especially in this case when it blocked access into our cul de sac.
they agreed.
I told the police that I was concerned about the mental health of the lady next door as i think her husband leaving her for a younger woman, being unable to sell their property for over a year and her son leaving to join the merchant navy had caused her to be on the verge of a breakdown.
I said that their drive and directly outside their house was free for hours so there was no need for them to park their car where they did.

the police pretty much agreed with everything and said that she informed them that my GF has deliberately parked infront of their drive to deny them access.
I said that in the time they'd lived there, which must be about 15 years, I'd spoken to her maybe 3 times. i couldnt pick her kids out of a line up!
so the police basically said they;d been given wrong info but they HAVE to act on all complaints. so it was just to say please don't do it again.
though when challenged they said that if someone blocks EXIT out of your drive its an obstruction but if they block it and deny you entry and you CAN park your car elsewhere, safely, then its not an offence and the most they can do is ASK you to move. if you comply, thats it. if you refuse then its an offence and your car can be towed.

I informed them about her threatening me and my GF and said I didnt want it to be persued but did want it logging with them.
I appologised that they may have had a wasted journey and they said that from talking to me, my dad and one of the neighbours who had volunteered her own perspective, the wife next door came off as am immature time waster and the police do not look fondly on these sorts, but they still HAVE to answer to all complaints

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