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Parking ticket - shall I try and appeal?

Mrs.Z Avatar
6y, 11m agoPosted 6 years, 11 months ago
Hi all.

Bit of a long story, but put simply - I mistakenly parked in a parking bay for 6 minutes during loading hours only, was caught on camera and got a ticket.

Fuller story:
I parked in a parking bay that I have used on several occasions.
Parked at 9.39am outside 'Greggs' the bakers - I didn't have change for the parking machine and nor did my sister in Law who was with me, so I went into Greggs to buy something and so get some change.
Came back out to the car and my sister in Law went into Greggs. I went to put money in the machine and the coin slot was closed and it had a message on the machine (can't remember what), so I went to look at the yellow sign and it said that the bays were 'loading only' until 10am.
I got back in the car, phoned my sister in Law to tell her to hurry up, turned the car round whilst waiting for her to come out and we went to park elsewhere.

There are 3 photos on the PCN letter, the last one has me in it reading the yellow sign!

So, I don't know whether to appeal as the I guess the contravention did occur and it was my fault for not checking the sign (it didn't cross my mind to as I have parked there before but not so early in the day) but it was a genuine mistake and they can see that as soon as I realised I wasn't allowed to park there I moved. I wasn't in anybody's way either as there was no-one else loading and lots of free space. Maybe I would have been okay if I had had the money for the machine as I would have left much quicker!

So should I bother trying to appeal or just accept it and pay? And if I lose, will I have to pay the full £100 or will I still be able to pay the discounted rate of £50?

Thank yous for reading all that! x
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6y, 11m agoPosted 6 years, 11 months ago
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#1
Try an appeal, you should still get the discounted rate if unsuccessful. But just in case, may be worth checking with whoever gave the ticket, there's usually a helpline number on them
#2
i would maybe cut my losses and pay the £50 just now and forget about it i,m afraid.
#3
I would definately appeal, they can see by the times it was genuine.
#4
makes you feel so ill getting a parking ticket, i'm so sorry for you, 3 already this year :x never bothered appealing, might lose you that £50 but others might know better:thinking:
#5
If you challenge, you are said to be in dispute and therefore, I believe, they cannot invoke the higher charge on you anyway.

Having said that though, I think I would pay, having seen the evidence.
#6
The normal route is to pay the fine then appeal. If they agree they'll refund you. I got stung for £60 about a month ago for not wearing a seat belt. Can 't really appeal that though, a fair cop as they say :lol:
#7
The best advice for parking tickets is over at http://forums.pepipoo.com - I'd highly recommend asking over there, make sure to have full scans of your parking ticket to upload for them to look at.

John
#8
i think you still have to pay and then appeal and if you win you get your money refunded, i did this but wasnt lucky enough to get refuned, a foot of my car was on double yellows and they gave me a ticket lol
#9
Forget about thae appeal, you've no chance.


Everyone who gets a parking ticket always has a "i was only away 5 mins story....." They dont buy it!

I've paid loads of em and absolutely despise traffic wardens, common sense goes out the window with them.
#10
Shengis
The normal route is to pay the fine then appeal. If they agree they'll refund you.


Actually, it's the opposite - the moment you pay, the case is closed and there is no chance to appeal.

John
#11
pink-ka
i think you still have to pay and then appeal and if you win you get your money refunded, i did this but wasnt lucky enough to get refuned, a foot of my car was on double yellows and they gave me a ticket lol


Once they have your payment, it is an acceptance of guilt and all paths of appeal are closed. DO NOT PAY AND THEN APPEAl.

As has been mentioned, Pepipoo probably gets around 75% of parking tickets quashed, not generally at council stage, they like to bluff it so you pay, but at independent adjudication stage, they usually pull out a few days before.
#12
makershaker
Forget about thae appeal, you've no chance.


Everyone who gets a parking ticket always has a "i was only away 5 mins story....." They dont buy it!

I've paid loads of em and absolutely despise traffic wardens, common sense goes out the window with them.


Simply not true - with decent advice it's possible for success on many appeals, take a look through the pepipoo parking forums to see proof.

John
#13
Pay it i work all day in and out of my van and even parking bays the councils (if they think you can have one) have to give you a screen sticker so you can use loading bays
#14
I went and parked on a side street when I saw that I wasn't allowed to park there, wish I had kept the pay and display ticket but wasn't expecting this! :x

I live in London and there seems to be CCTV everywhere which I always argued was a good thing if you have nothing to hide, but since all these cameras were installed the council seem to be using them mainly to rake in more cash! A few months ago I got a ticket for stopping a bit in a yellow box at the traffic lights - I know it was my fault but its just annoying when you do something small by mistake whilst doing the school run (where the junction is I wasn't causing an obstruction) and then I have to pay £50 out for it!

On the one hand I want to just pay and get it over with but on the other hand I don't want to hand over £50 that I could have spent on my kids to those money theiving barstewards for a genuine mistake - if it was a case of me trying to take the mick and try and dodge the parking then fair enough I would simply pay :x
#15
Johnmcl7
Actually, it's the opposite - the moment you pay, the case is closed and there is no chance to appeal.

John


Wasn't that way when the wife and brother in law got one each. Maybe it was because it was a private car park though.
#16
Shengis
Wasn't that way when the wife and brother in law got one each. Maybe it was because it was a private car park though.


Private companies cannot issue parking tickets. It is a SCAM!

They ask for your money when you appeal so then they have no reason to accept the appeal. They will ALWAYS reject it.
#17
makershaker
Forget about thae appeal, you've no chance.


Everyone who gets a parking ticket always has a "i was only away 5 mins story....." They dont buy it!

I've paid loads of em and absolutely despise traffic wardens, common sense goes out the window with them.


This was a street CCTV camera though, I was hoping that they could look back and see that I tried to pay the money and then looked at the parking sign, realised I wasn't allowed to park and went.

Like I said, the last photo shows me reading the sign :giggle:
#18
Doesnt matter if you were reading the sign, a newspaper, or graffiti on a wall.........you parked in there before 10am , thats all they care about.
#19
why did your sister in law go into greggs? you were in in a few mins before you could have got whatever she went in for, pay up case closed
#20
peodude
Private companies cannot issue parking tickets. It is a SCAM!

They ask for your money when you appeal so then they have no reason to accept the appeal. They will ALWAYS reject it.


Interesting, seeing as they refunded both tickets.
#21
jamstaruk1972
why did your sister in law go into greggs? you were in in a few mins before you could have got whatever she went in for, pay up case closed


Well I primarily went to get something so that I could get change, not to take orders from her. At that stage I wasn't looking at the fact that I might get a parking ticket as I wasn't aware that I wasn't supposed to park there :)


I have posted on the Pepipoo website, thanks for that :)
#22
Shengis
Wasn't that way when the wife and brother in law got one each. Maybe it was because it was a private car park though.


Private car parks are entirely different and are mostly scams, they cannot issue penalties/fines or anything like it despite the wording they use - payments are agreed on a contract basis however they rely on people not being aware of this and instead tend to rely on bullying to get their money.

John
#23
makershaker
Doesnt matter if you were reading the sign, a newspaper, or graffiti on a wall.........you parked in there before 10am , thats all they care about.


That how i was thinking they will probably look at it. My family were saying I should appeal but I said to them that as far as the council are concerned I was parked wrongly so they won't care why :thinking:
#24
id still appeal, youve got nothing to lose really.
#25
pink-ka
id still appeal, youve got nothing to lose really.


oh, I dunno - I was just verging on deciding to pay before you came along.

Maybe I should give them a call on Monday and ask if I will still be able to pay the discounted rate if my appeal fails :thinking:

I will be stressed waiting to hear back from them as well though, which is one reason I just feel like giving in :-(
#26
Legally, you should not have parked where you did. Ignorance of the law is no defence so you're very unlikely to have any success appealing.

I would have thought that if you appealed and failed you may well find that you would have to pay the full charge but it is worth asking about this before you decide whether to appeal.
#27
If you appeal within the discount period, 99% of the time the council will offer you the discounted rate still if/when they reject your appeal,
#28
Well as the car was never left unattended (by what you said) you were never parked. Your vehicle was used for loading (goods from greggs) and must commence within 5 min of stopping (which it did). You are allowed 20 min total loading time, so you were within time limits.

Getting this knocked on the head should be simple enough.
#29
tony_s1
Legally, you should not have parked where you did. Ignorance of the law is no defence so you're very unlikely to have any success appealing.

I would have thought that if you appealed and failed you may well find that you would have to pay the full charge but it is worth asking about this before you decide whether to appeal.

peodude
If you appeal within the discount period, 99% of the time the council will offer you the discounted rate still if/when they reject your appeal,

I will give them a call on Monday and ask them :thumbsup:

GAVINLEWISHUKD
Well as the car was never left unattended (by what you said) you were never parked. Your vehicle was used for loading (goods from greggs) and must commence within 5 min of stopping (which it did). You are allowed 20 min total loading time, so you were within time limits.

Getting this knocked on the head should be simple enough.

I like this, thank you - have put in the letter that the car was not left unattended at any time, shall I really put that I was loading Greggs food into my car? :giggle:
#30
Damn you woman mentioning greggs I am now craving a Sausage Cheese and beanie.

And a caramel donut.
#31
harlzter
Damn you woman mentioning greggs I am now craving a Sausage Cheese and beanie.

And a caramel donut.


And a chocolate curl doughnut? Oh no, that would be me :-D
#32
Mrs.Z;7205308
And a chocolate curl doughnut? Oh no, that would be me :-D



you are evil woman just pure evil





ps good luck with sorting the ticket out, either way.

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