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patching telephone to another part of the building

gogopussikat Avatar
8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
hi i hope someone can help

had a new line installed in new office - small building with network cables already installed on multi floors. We are moving away from a box office!

Telephone Line installed on middle floor. I have enabled broad band on this line. need to 'patch' ( BT man told me!) this to the bottom floor. Also need to attach to network via router. I am pretty knowledgable about computer networking but have never had to take the telephone line away from original position. I assume i attach router as usual using splitter then what do i do with the telephone hole? do i need a special cable which goes telephone to RJ45. If so what is that called.

Would love to get someone in to sort it out for me but unfortunately the move has cost so much we are seriously short of cash and i need to do this myself
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8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
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#1
Hi There,

What your describing sounds pretty much like the sort of work I do almost every day.

I am trying to understand what you are trying to do but im struggling to understand what you currently have and what you are trying to achieve.

This is what I think you are asking:

BT PSTN presentation in the centre of a room
ADSL filter connected to that floor socket
ADSL line connected to a Router
Router connected to a switch (Enables the network connection to be spread around people in the office)
Switch then has for example 24 patch ports
24 patch ports connect to a 24 port patch panel
>> 24 port patch panel runs around the building for example under desks or upstairs and downstairs <<
PC's connect directly into the patch ports that are probably under desks

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If you do have a patch panel between floors then whoever installed them should of hopefully labelled some ports as uplink ports to other patch panels. This enables you to spread the connections around the building easily.

Hope this is making sense to you.

Cheers
#2
To move a PSTN presentation you need to follow the wire out of the back (Most likely it goes under the floor) back to a BT distribution point, these are normally 50 pair links.

If you can disconnect the white BT presentaion box you should find probably 4-8 wires. Note the order and move the box where you need it, move the cable so it reaches and re-connect the wires and box. This would enable you to move the PSTN around the office.

Cheers

P.S. Where abouts are you?
#3
To patch a BT connection over a RJ-45 Structured cabling you need a Full Master adaptor like these and one of the RJ45 socket to UK Telephone plug adapter on the same page. But I'm not certain that running a ADSL connection over it will work.
#4
Hi

Thanks for all your help sorry if i didnt explain myself very well

Currently there is structured cabeling throughout the whole office all terminating in a central office space. This is where all the cables come out onto a patch port thing and where the telephone line comes in. I have set up broadband - fixed ip - on this line ( it is a BT line)
Ideally i wish to use it for

1. Telephone line - 1 phone downstairs ( there are RJ45 ports by where the phone needs to go- if this is of any help)
2. Connecting to router and switch and patch port as in gossmans post to provide internet around office

I am fine with the netwoking of the computers as i have done this before. What is really confusing me is how i get the phone (signal ) downstairs using the structured cabling will it work using the cat5e cables that are there?

commenting on gossmans post below where do i plug in the phone

BT PSTN presentation in the centre of a room - yes
ADSL filter connected to that floor socket -yes ( do i need to take a phone cable out of the adsl filter at this point and using an adapter(?) plug this into a port and link it to a downstairs point)
ADSL line connected to a Router
Router connected to a switch (Enables the network connection to be spread around people in the office)
Switch then has for example 24 patch ports
24 patch ports connect to a 24 port patch panel
>> 24 port patch panel runs around the building for example under desks or upstairs and downstairs <<
PC's connect directly into the patch ports that are probably under desks


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#5
carphead
To patch a BT connection over a RJ-45 Structured cabling you need a Full Master adaptor like these and one of the RJ45 socket to UK Telephone plug adapter on the same page. But I'm not certain that running a ADSL connection over it will work.


Just to confirm ADSL runs fine over Cat5 and the Full master is just an adapter that switches the wires so your solution should work fine. :thumbsup:
#6
gogopussikat
Hi

Thanks for all your help sorry if i didnt explain myself very well

Currently there is structured cabeling throughout the whole office all terminating in a central office space. This is where all the cables come out onto a patch port thing and where the telephone line comes in. I have set up broadband - fixed ip - on this line ( it is a BT line)
Ideally i wish to use it for

1. Telephone line - 1 phone downstairs ( there are RJ45 ports by where the phone needs to go- if this is of any help)
2. Connecting to router and switch and patch port as in gossmans post to provide internet around office

I am fine with the netwoking of the computers as i have done this before. What is really confusing me is how i get the phone (signal ) downstairs using the structured cabling will it work using the cat5e cables that are there?

commenting on gossmans post below where do i plug in the phone

BT PSTN presentation in the centre of a room - yes
ADSL filter connected to that floor socket -yes ( do i need to take a phone cable out of the adsl filter at this point and using an adapter(?) plug this into a port and link it to a downstairs point)
ADSL line connected to a Router
Router connected to a switch (Enables the network connection to be spread around people in the office)
Switch then has for example 24 patch ports
24 patch ports connect to a 24 port patch panel
>> 24 port patch panel runs around the building for example under desks or upstairs and downstairs <<
PC's connect directly into the patch ports that are probably under desks


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Hi There,

From your comment above it sounds like what you want should easily be possible.

1. Telephone line - 1 phone downstairs ( there are RJ45 ports by where the phone needs to go- if this is of any help)

Thats sounds exactly like what you need. So it sounds like you have the PSTN (BT line) appearing by the patch ports. What you would need to do is put the ADSL filter in the socket then use a BT to BT or BT to RJ-11 (With BT adapter) lead then connect it to the Full Master adapter As Per Carpheads post. The full master adapter would then have an RJ-45 end which would go into the patch port that relates to the socket downstairs. You would then need another Full master adapter in that socket and your normal telephone would slot into that.

Im sure theres a simpler way but its hard to imagine what you have to play with without actually being able to see it :?

2. Connecting to router and switch and patch port as in gossmans post to provide internet around office

This bit is simple. You have your ADSL filter in the PSTN socket, plug in the RJ11 to RJ11 lead and connect the other end to the router. The router should then have an ethernet port (possibly more than one) which you would put an RJ-45 cable in and the other end into your flat network switch (Make sure your router is using DHCP). From there you would patch all the switch ports into the patch panels which go under the floor to your users desks.

Hopefully that makes enough sense for you to follow?

Cheers
#7
Chears guys that makes perfect sense.

I have got all the bits i need now and am off to test it all out. wish me luck......... i may be back with another Q soon tho


Thanks again hotukdealers!
#8
gogopussikat
Chears guys that makes perfect sense.

I have got all the bits i need now and am off to test it all out. wish me luck......... i may be back with another Q soon tho


Thanks again hotukdealers!


Good luck! :thumbsup:

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