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Pc base unit advice wanted

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7y, 1w agoPosted 7 years, 1 week ago
Hi all i am looking at spending around £250 on a new base unit and need some advice on the best around for the money not sure on specs i need but its for encoding and burning not really gaming.
Would like at least 500gb hard drive and 2gb ram but not sure about rest would appreciate any help recieved.

thanks in advance
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7y, 1w agoPosted 7 years, 1 week ago
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#1
you looking at building it yourself? if so you could easly do this, also if you are building it yourself have you got a copy of windows already?
#2
For encoding your best bet would be an Intel CPU, preferably a Quad Core, problem is with a £250 budget you will just about get the CPU and Mobo. So you pretty much have no choice but to go AMD. Even so, your going to struggle to build to that price as a good motherboard and processor for AMD will likely cost you £130-£150 together, which leaves you around £100 to get RAM/HDD/Case/PSU and possibly a graphics card.

It is possible but with a slightly higher budget you would get a lot better for your money. Perhaps buying a second-hand Core 2 Duo base unit would be more cost effective than buying new products. Or even picking up deals on somewhere like eBay.

Good luck :thumbsup:
#3
If you're doing only light gaming the onboard 780G graphics might just be OK - it's a good chipset.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z106/emasu/quadebuyer.jpg
#4
id not really thought of building from scratch i had looked at a few bare bones units such as the below one whats your opinions

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?BB-542G
#5
With a HDD & Optical drive it would come out around the same (Based on an Athlon X2 240 versus the Intel) - although for encoding and the like I think a nice quad would be a good option and does just fit into your budget.

If you can, I'd go self built even over a bundle; you can select a wider range of quality components that are more tailored to want you want and will probably give you greater flexibility in the future. That's just my opinion though.
#6
where did the list of products come from emasu
#7
Ebuyer :)
#8
could you recomend a barebones setup as im not sure im ready for the full build from scratch option i also want something upgradable for the future
#9
sunsetman
could you recomend a barebones setup as im not sure im ready for the full build from scratch option i also want something upgradable for the future


If you can put together flat pack furniture, you can build a PC. The only thing to be careful of is static, particularly when handling the memory, keep yourself grounded and you'll be fine.
#10
if i went with building my own what other bits would i need like cables etc
#11
sunsetman
if i went with building my own what other bits would i need like cables etc


You should get everything you need with the spec emasu listed, Asus usually supply SATA cables etc. with their motherboards. Apart from that, if you're just after a base unit I'd assume you have the appropriate monitor cables, power cables etc.
#12
sunsetman
if i went with building my own what other bits would i need like cables etc


MSI GF615M-P33 GeForce 6150SE Socket AM3 VGA 8 channel Audio mATX Motherboard 177224 £37.28

AMD Athlon II 425 X3 Socket AM3 512MB L2 Cache Retail Box Processor 176042 £57.84

Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz/PC3-10600 Ballistix Memory Kit CL6 1.8V 166996 £60.00

Casecom KB-7760 Black ATX Midi Tower Case - No PSU, No Case Fans Included 108280£7.99

Sony AD-5240S 24x DVD±RW DL Internal SATA Black Bare Drive - OEM 170014 £16.17

Seagate ST3500418AS 500GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache - OEM 158860 £35.87

Sumvision 450W 20+4pin SATA Power Supply PSU - Retail Boxed 120674 £14.99 this you would get

Cart total £230.14

With this you would get all the cables you need apart from the kettle lead to plug it in, if you have a PC already you have this. This is ebuyer by the way with the quick find numbers :)
#13
chuckles could i use the the processor emasu said with your bundle
#14
sunsetman
chuckles could i use the the processor emasu said with your bundle


Yep that CPU will be fine to use :)
#15
i know im being a pain but you wouldnt know of an easy to follow building guide would you
#16
sunsetman
i know im being a pain but you wouldnt know of an easy to follow building guide would you


you really dont need one, if you wnt and if you have another PC/Laptop you can have me on with MSN at the same time i will gladly walk you thou it as you build it if you like?
#17
i appreciate that thanks ill see how i go
#18
Bare in mind that case doesn't come with any fans whatsoever. That PSU is a very basic model and I doubt would be able to handle something like a HD4850 or similar should you want to pop it in later. The last thing you want is a crappy PSU taking your system out completely. Remember the wattage isn't the main concern; Amps on the 12V and the PSU quality rank higher when you're buying (For me anyway).

The X3 425 is a very good processor (I have one, albeit paid £37). It's a good middling point between quad and dual and does the job very well IMO. I was checking out the 4GB ballistix last night and thought to myself it was indeed a very good deal given RAM prices at the moment.

http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/pc-building/ Should help you for the most part, but ask any questions you have on here and we'll be able to help with it.
#19
i was considering this cpu anygood


# AMD Phenom X4 9650 2.3GHz Socket AM2+ 2MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor

my current system is running

amd athlon 2600+ 1.92ghz
1 gb ram

im guessing the ones you guys have said are way faster
#20
That's one of the original Phenoms which were pretty pants - the new Athlon II's will be better.
#21
kool ill look for an athlon ll then
#22
The processors that chuckles and I linked are both part of the Athlon II family.

There's a list here:- http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/athlon-ii-x2/Pages/AMD-athlon-ii-x2-processor-model-numbers-feature-comparison.aspx
#23
so should i go for the highest ghz i can afford per core
#24
sunsetman;7044969
so should i go for the highest ghz i can afford per core


For £12 more (at ebuyer), I'd go for the X4 620. Sometimes Scan have it for £70 on their today only section.
#25
emasu
That PSU is a very basic model and I doubt would be able to handle something like a HD4850 or similar should you want to pop it in later. The last thing you want is a crappy PSU taking your system out completely. Remember the wattage isn't the main concern; Amps on the 12V and the PSU quality rank higher when you're buying (For me anyway).


+1. I'd say you shouldn't be spending less than £30 or so on a PSU, it's a very important and often overlooked thing. It's also the one thing that if it goes bang can take pretty much anything else in your system with it, or even everything if you're really unlucky.
#26
im gona get best psu i can afford i have read that certain amd dual core cpu can be unlocked to make them a quad that true anybody
#27
Advanced Clock Calibration can unlock certain processors from either a triple or dual to a quad - however it's very hit and miss as to whether or not you'll get a 'good' cpu that will work. That's a vital point, I've known of people getting in a hissy fit after it didn't work. Quite funny really.

You'll want to look out for motherboards with SB710 or SB750 southbridges. 760/770/785/790 series motherboards should have them (Although check on the manufacturers site beforehand to confirm that certain model has it.) 780G is based on the SB700 southbridge which doesn't have ACC.
#28
if its hit and miss i think i might just go for a good quality dual core and stick at that as im not gona be gaming on it heavely
#29
Right now, I'd get this:-

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z106/emasu/ebuyerpcb.jpg

Better board, slightly better onboard graphics and ACC should you ever want to try it. Good processor too - a core more than the duals and 300mhz faster than the X4 620 at stock. Like I've said above they're a good middling between quad and dual.
#30
this is what i ended up going for

Item: AMD Athlon II X2 250 Socket AM3 3.0GHz 2MB L2 Cache Retail Box Processor
Qty: 1Cost: 44.81

Item: Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H 785G Socket AM3 DVI VGA HDMI Out 8 Channel Audio MATX Motherboard
Qty: 1Cost: 58.36

Item: Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz/PC3-10600 Ballistix Memory Kit CL6 1.8V
Qty: 1Cost: 52.17

Item: Compucase Z-Power 650W PSU - 12CM Fan 20+4pin 2x SATA
Qty: 1Cost: 22.11

Item: Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM Caviar Blue
Qty: 1Cost: 31.16

Item: Casecom 6630 Black Midi Tower Case With Front Panel USB2.0/Audio - No PSU
Qty: 1Cost: 11.29

Item: Xilence Red Wing 80mm Quiet Fan - 3&4pin connection
Qty: 2Cost: 2.69

Item: Xilence Black 120mm Case Fan - 4pin with 3pin adaptor
Qty: 1Cost: 3.84

Item: Sony AD-5240S 24x DVD±RW DL Internal SATA Black Bare Drive - OEM
Qty: 1Cost: 14.15

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