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PC Networking help please

cycleman Avatar
8y, 10m agoPosted 8 years, 10 months ago
I've just got a new Vista PC & have networked 2 other PCs (both Vista) & 2 XBox 360s, gone thru a router (wired) + hub switch (router 4 port, 5 devices to network).
All seemed fine at first, but now keeps cutting out & then reconnecting, very annoying, especially when you're on x box live. Problem mainly seems to be with the devices networked out, not so much the main computer, also does seem rather 'laggy'.
I've gone thru all the settings I can think of & all the diagnostics which tell me theres nothing wrong, bit stumped.
It seems like it's almost automatically disconnecting then reconnecting?
Any help much appreciated.
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8y, 10m agoPosted 8 years, 10 months ago
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#1
Hmm, that's a bit of a strange one when you're working wired - is there anything visible on the router which happens during the disconnect? What happens to the actual devices, can they ping each other or does the entire network drop? Does the router have any logging feature?

John
#2
i would try with the minimum amount of devices e.g pc and 1 xbox , see how that goes, then try adding more, it could be 1 connection causing it, laggy could be if your router has a low data transfer rate or if your slating your bandwith ?

dunno if that helps at all but there u go, gud luck
#3
Can you quantify "laggy"? Does the slow down happen when you are playing online games or browsing the internet or both? There could be different factors that *may* affect what is happening.

xmal
#4
Johnmcl7
Hmm, that's a bit of a strange one when you're working wired - is there anything visible on the router which happens during the disconnect? What happens to the actual devices, can they ping each other or does the entire network drop? Does the router have any logging feature?

John

Hi again John,
The only thing I noticed once was it seemed to be trying to 'redial' another connection couldn't make that out, seemed a bit like the old dial up days when if it couldn't connect it would hang up and retry?
#5
xmal
Can you quantify "laggy"? Does the slow down happen when you are playing online games or browsing the internet or both? There could be different factors that *may* affect what is happening.

xmal


Hi Xmal, laggy mainly affects the xbox games, running really slow, but sometimes pages takle a while to load up on the PCs
#6
cycleman
Hi Xmal, laggy mainly affects the xbox games, running really slow, but sometimes pages takle a while to load up on the PCs


You said the games run slow, i assume thats when ur playing online?
#7
Ive got to go now, but any replys are very gratefully received, I'll be checking back about 8am, thanks again guys.
#8
cycleman
Hi Xmal, laggy mainly affects the xbox games, running really slow, but sometimes pages takle a while to load up on the PCs


If it affects both the xbox and loading web pages, it sounds like there is high latency on your internet connection. Try using the xbox and browsing at non-peak times ie not 5pm-midnight and see if you still get the problem. (I am trying to localise the problem first as it may be numerous things)
banned#9
Since its hard wired, the only thing I can think to try first is a change of cable, but to be honest, its probably unlikely.

Reading through this thread - and seeing the comments on the Xbox - where they referring to the 360? (I know the OP says 360 - but the replys didnt!)

Now the reason I ask, is because Ive got fed up of wireless and have now hard wired everything. (The "office" always has been hard wired to 5 PCs, but now Ive done the kids rooms upstairs also. But what I have also done, is run a cable between the kids rooms specifically so they can play their (non 360) Xboxes adhoc. The cabling is in place, but unconnected yet. (ie Ive not "planted" the wall sockets or crimped.) Now I think I am right in saying that they need to be crossover Cat5s. However, since they will be going into a B type socket, would I be needing 2 crossover cables - or should I be just chaging the wall socket connections? I have had a search, but not found anything that covers this scenario.

Apologies for the slight highjack!!!!
#10
guv - you would need one crossover cable, if you use two you'll cross the connection over twice and end up with a normal connection. If I'm understanding you properly, you want to have a cable running between the rooms with an RJ45 socket for each end, then a cable running from each Xbox to the wall? If so, one of the cables running to the wall should be a crossover but the rest should be straight patch cables - that way the connection is crossed over.

cycleman - I think your next best step is to narrow it down to a local or internet issue. The easiest way to do this is when both Vista PCs are powered up, go to start run and type cmd to bring up a command window, open three of these up. Now in the command window you want to ping the router, the other Vista PC and an internet address - for example:

ping -t 192.168.1.1 (router)
ping -t 192.168.1.5 (other PC)

ping -t www.bbc.co.uk (internet site)

Once you kick each of these off, you'll see a steady stream of 'reply from' and a time, leave these running and when lag or disconnections occur quickly check what is happening on the pings. If it's purely an internet/cable modem issue your internet ping window will not reply or the ping time will go very high, if it's a router problem then your pings to the router and other PC will go wrong. The -t switch means to ping endlessly, alternatively you can send the output to a file by using a >, ping -t 192.168.1.1 > c:\router.text (for example)

John
#11
John, I just pinged my router (I think!), can't ping anything else at the moment cause they're all in bed!
If you look at the file the address is 192.168.2.1 for the router is that significant (not 192.168.1.1)
Cheers Tim
Also how do I know the addresses of the PCs & XBoxes to ping them?
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8084/pinghr0.jpg
Just pinged the bbc, no problem
When I pinged ping -t 192.168.1.1 it says request timed out (only my pc on though)
Just got onto 1 of the other PCs and pinged from that one 192.168.2.1 no problem.
#12
cycleman, can you open a command prompt (that black box that you opened for the ping) and type in ipconfig
Can you post the output to imageshack again please...

xmal
#13
xmal
cycleman, can you open a command prompt (that black box that you opened for the ping) and type in ipconfig
Can you post the output to imageshack again please...

xmal

Here it is xmal, sorry if I'm taking a while to reply to these posts, just got a lot of running around to do today..
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4987/ipconfigii0.jpg
#14
Heya, 192.168.1.1 was an example - I was meaning you to put yours in place, 192.168.x.x is a private address range so it doesn't really matter what the third number is. Some routers use 192.168.1.1, some 192.168.2.1 or MS use 192.168.0.1, it makes no difference.

You need to put the -t in and keep an eye on the pings - they should go along normally but when your network drops you should be able to see from the pings exactly where it's going down.

John
#15
cycleman
Here it is xmal, sorry if I'm taking a while to reply to these posts, just got a lot of running around to do today..
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4987/ipconfigii0.jpg


OK, now ping 192.168.2.1 -t . The -t is a flag that allows the ping to be continuous. Whenever your connection seems to get slow quickly look at the ping output. If you are cabled it should really always state <1ms. Check this value when it lags and report back.

xmal
banned#16
Johnmcl7
guv - you would need one crossover cable, if you use two you'll cross the connection over twice and end up with a normal connection. If I'm understanding you properly, you want to have a cable running between the rooms with an RJ45 socket for each end, then a cable running from each Xbox to the wall? If so, one of the cables running to the wall should be a crossover but the rest should be straight patch cables - that way the connection is crossed over.



Your understanding was correct. ie two rooms directly connected with wall sockets. So if I connected those in the normal "B" type connection and used one crossover patch lead, this will do the trick. (I suppose I could crossoverone wall socket - but am thinking I might have other uses for this at some stage - not that its difficult to change! I'm sure there may be other uses for this at some stage! The project still isnt complete though! One room is done, the other the cable will be there shortly! Just a case of getting round to it! Not even sure what use it will be put to! Most games they play are different - but maybe in time that will change!

I just did this on a whim! I decided to give a wired network connection to their PCs and thought it would be useful to let them connect their xboxes with an extra cable.

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