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7m, 1w agoPosted 7 months, 1 week ago
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Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.

I wish them every success.
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Pigmejs
Have anyone heard of UKIP lately?
Yes, I've heard of UKIP.
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there's a couple more you might recognise ...

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr04/23/8/enhanced-buzz-12211-1400848926-14.jpg
http://www.officialpix.com/2015/Tim-Curry.jpghttp://i2.getbucks.co.uk/incoming/article6596499.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/farage.jpg
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haritori
I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F564x%2F73%2Fab%2F3c%2F73ab3cf7f5aa0c3f0cafda353676cd21.jpg&f=1
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Just worked out who Nigel's smile reminds me of:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vp1xPNyTD7k/hqdefault.jpg

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Lol omfg so funny!!!
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Vile.
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Just worked out who Nigel's smile reminds me of:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vp1xPNyTD7k/hqdefault.jpg
10 Likes #4
there's a couple more you might recognise ...

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr04/23/8/enhanced-buzz-12211-1400848926-14.jpg
http://www.officialpix.com/2015/Tim-Curry.jpghttp://i2.getbucks.co.uk/incoming/article6596499.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/farage.jpg
#5
Have anyone heard of UKIP lately?
13 Likes #6
Pigmejs
Have anyone heard of UKIP lately?
Yes, I've heard of UKIP.
22 Likes #7
Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.

I wish them every success.
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Mark2111
Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.
I wish them every success.

That's a rare commodity in politics today.
4 Likes #9
Both very successful in their causes. Better luck next time remainers and Hilary voter's.
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One of the trending words on a dictionary site is 'trump'. I especially like this definition
http://a67.tinypic.com/w7mtg1.jpg
#11
G O L D E N ! !
#12
Mark2111
Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.
I wish them every success.
Every PM since the war in US and UK have been people's choice, what's different is intended and/or unintended outcomes.
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Mark2111
Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.
I wish them every success.
Every PM since the war in US and UK have been people's choice, what's different is intended and/or unintended outcomes.

That's the problem when you have a main stream media that has favoured Liberals for years, an awful lot of people have had it rammed down their throats for so long they actually believed everything they were told or read.

I like the "How can the Polls be so wrong" line that we are hearing all over again it's like they think people don't know what's going on when they release those clearly bias polls.
#14
Mark2111
Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.
I wish them every success.

I wish Trump great success because we need America to lead the way.

What do you think about his view on climate change though, and do you have any vested interest in the environment?
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I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..

US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.

Edited By: haritori on Nov 13, 2016 10:34
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burningmoney77
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/12/23/3A509C7C00000578-3930572-image-a-1_1478994344921.jpg

This will be my christmas card to all family & friends with a xmas hat on both of them. :{
#17
haritori
I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..
US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.
If you look at the ancestry of the US population, you might become a little less confident about the UK's relationship with the US. Historically, a fair few US presidents have tried to appeal to the electors' origins.

US Ancestry

Edited By: RonChew on Nov 13, 2016 11:34
#18
haritori
I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..
US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.

Well he's looking at getting the USA out of the Paris climate agreement which is terrifying as someone with kids.

They've elected a president looking to take America back in time on social issues affecting women and minorities.

The truth is he could be the best president ever if he stuck to his views of 15 years ago and ignored republicans, but I don't see that as being likely. I think he'll protect car makers and the fossil fuel industry which will kill renewables and electric cars.

That's just sad.
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I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..
US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.
Well he's looking at getting the USA out of the Paris climate agreement which is terrifying as someone with kids.
They've elected a president looking to take America back in time on social issues affecting women and minorities.
The truth is he could be the best president ever if he stuck to his views of 15 years ago and ignored republicans, but I don't see that as being likely. I think he'll protect car makers and the fossil fuel industry which will kill renewables and electric cars.
That's just sad.


Very sad indeed - could almost make you react like this chap.




http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sad-kid-reaction-gif.gif
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I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..
US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.
Well he's looking at getting the USA out of the Paris climate agreement which is terrifying as someone with kids.
They've elected a president looking to take America back in time on social issues affecting women and minorities.
The truth is he could be the best president ever if he stuck to his views of 15 years ago and ignored republicans, but I don't see that as being likely. I think he'll protect car makers and the fossil fuel industry which will kill renewables and electric cars.
That's just sad.
Very sad indeed - could almost make you react like this chap. http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sad-kid-reaction-gif.gif

Maybe. I'm just worried that in looking for a better life Americans might actually make life worse. In acting on their frustrations things might backfire and they'd look silly. Yes we could laugh at them but that's not the point, know what I mean?
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haritori
I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F564x%2F73%2Fab%2F3c%2F73ab3cf7f5aa0c3f0cafda353676cd21.jpg&f=1
#22
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I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..
US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.
Well he's looking at getting the USA out of the Paris climate agreement which is terrifying as someone with kids.
They've elected a president looking to take America back in time on social issues affecting women and minorities.
The truth is he could be the best president ever if he stuck to his views of 15 years ago and ignored republicans, but I don't see that as being likely. I think he'll protect car makers and the fossil fuel industry which will kill renewables and electric cars.
That's just sad.
Very sad indeed - could almost make you react like this chap. http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sad-kid-reaction-gif.gif
Maybe. I'm just worried that in looking for a better life Americans might actually make life worse. In acting on their frustrations things might backfire and they'd look silly. Yes we could laugh at them but that's not the point, know what I mean?
Don't worry. I'm sure that I read somewhere that if we leave the EU, none of this will affect us. (_;)
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haritori
I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..
US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.
Well he's looking at getting the USA out of the Paris climate agreement which is terrifying as someone with kids.
They've elected a president looking to take America back in time on social issues affecting women and minorities.
The truth is he could be the best president ever if he stuck to his views of 15 years ago and ignored republicans, but I don't see that as being likely. I think he'll protect car makers and the fossil fuel industry which will kill renewables and electric cars.
That's just sad.
Very sad indeed - could almost make you react like this chap. http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sad-kid-reaction-gif.gif
Maybe. I'm just worried that in looking for a better life Americans might actually make life worse. In acting on their frustrations things might backfire and they'd look silly. Yes we could laugh at them but that's not the point, know what I mean?
Don't worry. I'm sure that I read somewhere that if we leave the EU, none of this will affect us. (_;)


Renewables won't be affected because they make economic sense and Trump is a business man. On the social issues it's unlikely he will continue the 'act' that got him elected. He is already back tracking on his 'promises'.

I suspect that a President with a business background will be a lot more pragmatic and useful than any career politician who is more concerned about 'towing a party line' and enhancing their legacy.
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I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..
US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.
Well he's looking at getting the USA out of the Paris climate agreement which is terrifying as someone with kids.
They've elected a president looking to take America back in time on social issues affecting women and minorities.
The truth is he could be the best president ever if he stuck to his views of 15 years ago and ignored republicans, but I don't see that as being likely. I think he'll protect car makers and the fossil fuel industry which will kill renewables and electric cars.
That's just sad.
Very sad indeed - could almost make you react like this chap. http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sad-kid-reaction-gif.gif
Maybe. I'm just worried that in looking for a better life Americans might actually make life worse. In acting on their frustrations things might backfire and they'd look silly. Yes we could laugh at them but that's not the point, know what I mean?
Don't worry. I'm sure that I read somewhere that if we leave the EU, none of this will affect us. (_;)
Renewables won't be affected because they make economic sense and Trump is a business man. On the social issues it's unlikely he will continue the 'act' that got him elected. He is already back tracking on his 'promises'.
I suspect that a President with a business background will be a lot more pragmatic and useful than any career politician who is more concerned about 'towing a party line' and enhancing their legacy.

But he's already looking to get out of the Paris agreements, and how do renewables make sense to the hugely influential fossil fuels industry?

I want to think he'll be a good president but every indication is that he's going to make the environment worse, and remove rights from numerous groups. I hope I'm proven wrong.
#25
They should be in panto together in Vegas ideally as they remind me of these two clowns:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/02/04/19/pg-34-chuckle-1.jpg
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Agharta
They should be in panto together in Vegas ideally as they remind me of these two clowns:https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/02/04/19/pg-34-chuckle-1.jpg

When the alternative is this the chuckle brothers seem like the sensible option.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/pfNn0OgypPyB4.7K9aX_PQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjAwO2g9NDA3O2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/theticket/clinton-merkel1.jpg
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Agharta
They should be in panto together in Vegas ideally as they remind me of these two clowns:https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/02/04/19/pg-34-chuckle-1.jpg
When the alternative is this the chuckle brothers seem like the sensible option.https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/pfNn0OgypPyB4.7K9aX_PQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjAwO2g9NDA3O2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/theticket/clinton-merkel1.jpg
Yeah, it's a matter of which set of clowns you want, the ugly ones or the uglier ones and I'm referring to their policies not their looks and how ugly they look is subjective so depends on what angle you are looking from.
Makes little difference to my eyes as politics is all one big circus anyway.
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haritori
I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..
US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.
Well he's looking at getting the USA out of the Paris climate agreement which is terrifying as someone with kids.
They've elected a president looking to take America back in time on social issues affecting women and minorities.
The truth is he could be the best president ever if he stuck to his views of 15 years ago and ignored republicans, but I don't see that as being likely. I think he'll protect car makers and the fossil fuel industry which will kill renewables and electric cars.
That's just sad.
Very sad indeed - could almost make you react like this chap. http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sad-kid-reaction-gif.gif
Maybe. I'm just worried that in looking for a better life Americans might actually make life worse. In acting on their frustrations things might backfire and they'd look silly. Yes we could laugh at them but that's not the point, know what I mean?
Don't worry. I'm sure that I read somewhere that if we leave the EU, none of this will affect us. (_;)
Renewables won't be affected because they make economic sense and Trump is a business man. On the social issues it's unlikely he will continue the 'act' that got him elected. He is already back tracking on his 'promises'.
I suspect that a President with a business background will be a lot more pragmatic and useful than any career politician who is more concerned about 'towing a party line' and enhancing their legacy.

But he's already looking to get out of the Paris agreements, and how do renewables make sense to the hugely influential fossil fuels industry?

I want to think he'll be a good president but every indication is that he's going to make the environment worse, and remove rights from numerous groups. I hope I'm proven wrong.


We are already passed 'peak oil' and 'peak coal' so the economic decline of the fossil fuel industry has already started. As long as the planet can survive a little while longer most climate change agreements will become redundant within a generation.

As for removing rights, there is bound to be some short term winners and losers with any change of Administration. However worse case is he will be around for 8 years, probably 4, and if the pendulum swings too far to the right during his term it's likely to swing back further when he's gone. Not ideal for those directly affected by his policies but unfortunately that is the price of Democracy. My favoured approach to politics is a benevolent dictatorship but I doubt that will ever happen (_;) .
#29
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Agharta
They should be in panto together in Vegas ideally as they remind me of these two clowns:https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/02/04/19/pg-34-chuckle-1.jpg
When the alternative is this the chuckle brothers seem like the sensible option.https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/pfNn0OgypPyB4.7K9aX_PQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjAwO2g9NDA3O2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/theticket/clinton-merkel1.jpg
Yeah, it's a matter of which set of clowns you want, the ugly ones or the uglier ones and I'm referring to their policies not their looks and how ugly they look is subjective so depends on what angle you are looking from.
Makes little difference to my eyes as politics is all one big circus anyway.

Well i actually thought Hillary looked quite attractive in her younger days but in my subjective opinion in a number of photos in recent years she has looked like a sadistic demon.
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I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..
US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.
Well he's looking at getting the USA out of the Paris climate agreement which is terrifying as someone with kids.
They've elected a president looking to take America back in time on social issues affecting women and minorities.
The truth is he could be the best president ever if he stuck to his views of 15 years ago and ignored republicans, but I don't see that as being likely. I think he'll protect car makers and the fossil fuel industry which will kill renewables and electric cars.
That's just sad.
Very sad indeed - could almost make you react like this chap. http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sad-kid-reaction-gif.gif
Maybe. I'm just worried that in looking for a better life Americans might actually make life worse. In acting on their frustrations things might backfire and they'd look silly. Yes we could laugh at them but that's not the point, know what I mean?
Don't worry. I'm sure that I read somewhere that if we leave the EU, none of this will affect us. (_;)
Renewables won't be affected because they make economic sense and Trump is a business man. On the social issues it's unlikely he will continue the 'act' that got him elected. He is already back tracking on his 'promises'.
I suspect that a President with a business background will be a lot more pragmatic and useful than any career politician who is more concerned about 'towing a party line' and enhancing their legacy.
But he's already looking to get out of the Paris agreements, and how do renewables make sense to the hugely influential fossil fuels industry?
I want to think he'll be a good president but every indication is that he's going to make the environment worse, and remove rights from numerous groups. I hope I'm proven wrong.
We are already passed 'peak oil' and 'peak coal' so the economic decline of the fossil fuel industry has already started. As long as the planet can survive a little while longer most climate change agreements will become redundant within a generation.
As for removing rights, there is bound to be some short term winners and losers with any change of Administration. However worse case is he will be around for 8 years, probably 4, and if the pendulum swings too far to the right during his term it's likely to swing back further when he's gone. Not ideal for those directly affected by his policies but unfortunately that is the price of Democracy. My favoured approach to politics is a benevolent dictatorship but I doubt that will ever happen (_;) .

Whilst peak oil might have been past, the lobbying power of the fossil fuel industry hasn't and they will do their best to kill alternatives. It's questionable how much longer the planet can take.

The Supreme Court appointees will have ramifications beyond 4 to 8 years and 'not ideal' could lead to greater discrimination for LGBT groups, ethnic minorities and women seeking control over their own bodies. Saying that's the price of democracy is not enough if you care about things like this.
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Agharta
They should be in panto together in Vegas ideally as they remind me of these two clowns.
When the alternative is this the chuckle brothers seem like the sensible option.
Yeah, it's a matter of which set of clowns you want, the ugly ones or the uglier ones and I'm referring to their policies not their looks and how ugly they look is subjective so depends on what angle you are looking from.
Makes little difference to my eyes as politics is all one big circus anyway.
Well i actually thought Hillary looked quite attractive in her younger days but in my subjective opinion in a number of photos in recent years she has looked like a sadistic demon.
Pantos like an evil witch and a toupeed simpleton.
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there's a couple more you might recognise ...https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr04/23/8/enhanced-buzz-12211-1400848926-14.jpghttp://www.officialpix.com/2015/Tim-Curry.jpghttp://i2.getbucks.co.uk/incoming/article6596499.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/farage.jpg

Hey! That's a massive insult to the lovely Tim Curry!! :(
#33
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Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.
I wish them every success.
Every PM since the war in US and UK have been people's choice, what's different is intended and/or unintended outcomes.

Does that include Gordon Brown?
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I personally think the secret service are going to be very very active with Trump..
US made a decision one they will have to stand behind, the problem with this election was that both parties didnt put the right candidate in the running, so it was a choice between two evils, personally I think they choose the lesser evil, but all the same Trump was a pretty horrible human being, I do hope for the peoples sake his attitude towards people will change and he can help revive some of the US jobs and the economy, this country can have a good relation with the US, not so sure Europe can though.
Well he's looking at getting the USA out of the Paris climate agreement which is terrifying as someone with kids.
They've elected a president looking to take America back in time on social issues affecting women and minorities.
The truth is he could be the best president ever if he stuck to his views of 15 years ago and ignored republicans, but I don't see that as being likely. I think he'll protect car makers and the fossil fuel industry which will kill renewables and electric cars.
That's just sad.
Very sad indeed - could almost make you react like this chap. http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sad-kid-reaction-gif.gif
Maybe. I'm just worried that in looking for a better life Americans might actually make life worse. In acting on their frustrations things might backfire and they'd look silly. Yes we could laugh at them but that's not the point, know what I mean?
Don't worry. I'm sure that I read somewhere that if we leave the EU, none of this will affect us. (_;)
Renewables won't be affected because they make economic sense and Trump is a business man. On the social issues it's unlikely he will continue the 'act' that got him elected. He is already back tracking on his 'promises'.
I suspect that a President with a business background will be a lot more pragmatic and useful than any career politician who is more concerned about 'towing a party line' and enhancing their legacy.
But he's already looking to get out of the Paris agreements, and how do renewables make sense to the hugely influential fossil fuels industry?
I want to think he'll be a good president but every indication is that he's going to make the environment worse, and remove rights from numerous groups. I hope I'm proven wrong.
We are already passed 'peak oil' and 'peak coal' so the economic decline of the fossil fuel industry has already started. As long as the planet can survive a little while longer most climate change agreements will become redundant within a generation.
As for removing rights, there is bound to be some short term winners and losers with any change of Administration. However worse case is he will be around for 8 years, probably 4, and if the pendulum swings too far to the right during his term it's likely to swing back further when he's gone. Not ideal for those directly affected by his policies but unfortunately that is the price of Democracy. My favoured approach to politics is a benevolent dictatorship but I doubt that will ever happen (_;) .

Whilst peak oil might have been past, the lobbying power of the fossil fuel industry hasn't and they will do their best to kill alternatives. It's questionable how much longer the planet can take.

The Supreme Court appointees will have ramifications beyond 4 to 8 years and 'not ideal' could lead to greater discrimination for LGBT groups, ethnic minorities and women seeking control over their own bodies. Saying that's the price of democracy is not enough if you care about things like this.


I have a more optimistic view of the fossil fuel debate. I genuinely believe that over the next 10 to 20 years renewables will dominate. Just look at the recent rise of Elon Musk. I also believe that the planet is robust enough to withstand this timeframe.

As far as the Supreme Court is concerned, Trump is only guaranteed one appointment which will replace a conservative with a conservative. I agree that if he is able to make more appointments during his term it may tip the balance of power more in his favour but that is a big 'if'.

Maybe I should have been clearer in my final paragraph. 'Not ideal, in the short term' would have been better wording. Given the welcome rise in rights for all of these groups over the last 50 odd years one or possibly two US Presidential terms won't change that much. Even if it has a detrimental effect on some people now.
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Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.
I wish them every success.
Every PM since the war in US and UK have been people's choice, what's different is intended and/or unintended outcomes.
Does that include Gordon Brown?
And Theresa May?
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colin4man
He is already back tracking on his 'promises'.

Given the demographic he targetted, this could prove quite hazardous to his personal safety. There's always a price to pay when you dance with the devil...
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RonChew
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splender
Mark2111
Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.
I wish them every success.
Every PM since the war in US and UK have been people's choice, what's different is intended and/or unintended outcomes.
Does that include Gordon Brown?
And Theresa May?

I believe recent polls show that she is incredibly popular as PM, even among Labour supporters...
#38
3guesses
splender
Mark2111
Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.
I wish them every success.
Every PM since the war in US and UK have been people's choice, what's different is intended and/or unintended outcomes.
Does that include Gordon Brown?
Yes, my goodness gracious, this is school stuff. No one in UK ever elects a PM!!
#39
RonChew
3guesses
splender
Mark2111
Trump and Nigel, two great men, passionate about their respective countries. The people's choice.
I wish them every success.
Every PM since the war in US and UK have been people's choice, what's different is intended and/or unintended outcomes.
Does that include Gordon Brown?
And Theresa May?
No one elects a PM, vote is for MP, letter swapped round.
#40
3guesses
colin4man
He is already back tracking on his 'promises'.

Given the demographic he targetted, this could prove quite hazardous to his personal safety. There's always a price to pay when you dance with the devil...


Agreed but it's the same groups who people were worried about when Obama became the first black President.

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