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#1
Negative Feedback Awaits Either

TELLING THE TRUTH IS NEARLY ALWAYS THE WINNER
#2
I would go for the latter :thumbsup:
#3
I'd say it's broken...it's the best option really. You might get a neutral or a neg, but you willl deffo get one if you tell them you've sold it to someone else. Or....option 3, you could say you've posted it and wait until the buyer moans about non-delivery. THEN refund in full straight away and say that Royal Mail lost it. Now that might save you from getting a neg, but it's not really fair on the buyer.
#4
well i'd much rather you were totally honest with me rather than make up a cock and bull story about it being damagd etc.
speaking from experience when I won a very expensive tv stand for a quid then lo and behold just as I was about to collect it I got the oh dear it was damaged as we lifted it story.

I'd still be annoyed but I'd appreciate the honesty and probably wouldn't leave a neg or file item not recieved. Doesn't mean whoever bought it would feel th same way though I would'nt worry about legal action.
#5
Im not personally having a go at you m8 but the RIGHT thing to do is to get the item back from your mate and send it to the winning bidder.

if you werent prepared to take whats been offered in the winning bid you should have had a sufficient reserve or removed before the time limit.

makes a mockery of the point of an auction site really if people start making up stories because they arent happy with the outcome doesnt it?

a deals a deal-a mans word should be his bond-you listed it,you should supply it-end of story imho.
#6
Tell him you were driving to the post office to post the item and you were in a tragic car crash and the item got damaged and you have broken both your legs.

I am sure he will understand.

Yes, no?
#7
Do the right thing. Sell it to your mate and get cash in hand, so no scamming from ebay will result.

mark the item as posted....but obviously dont post it. In a weeks time the buyer will say, wheres my item? to which you can reply, "dunno mate, must have got lost in the post, but rather than wait the time states to qualify it lost in the post, I'll refund you in full as a goodwill gesture and if the item turns up then you can keep it." (which it never will).

Job's a good'un :thumbsup:
#8
casparwhite
Negative Feedback Awaits Either


That's why I'm concerned.
Anyway, ebay feedback will be moot after 2012.
#9
StevenA2000_uk
Do the right thing. Sell it to your mate and get cash in hand, so no scamming from ebay will result.

mark the item as posted....but obviously dont post it. In a weeks time the buyer will say, wheres my item? to which you can reply, "dunno mate, must have got lost in the post, but rather than wait the time states to qualify it lost in the post, I'll refund you in full as a goodwill gesture and if the item turns up then you can keep it." (which it never will).

Job's a good'un :thumbsup:


sounds like youve done it before lol
#10
barky
Im not personally having a go at you m8 but the RIGHT thing to do is to get the item back from your mate and send it to the winning bidder.

if you werent prepared to take whats been offered in the winning bid you should have had a sufficient reserve or removed before the time limit.

makes a mockery of the point of an auction site really if people start making up stories because they arent happy with the outcome doesnt it?

a deals a deal-a mans word should be his bond-you listed it,you should supply it-end of story imho.

I can't do that.
#11
tell him that the item turned out to be a transformer, and it transformed into a robot and flew away
#12
StevenA2000_uk
Do the right thing. Sell it to your mate and get cash in hand, so no scamming from ebay will result.

mark the item as posted....but obviously dont post it. In a weeks time the buyer will say, wheres my item? to which you can reply, "dunno mate, must have got lost in the post, but rather than wait the time states to qualify it lost in the post, I'll refund you in full as a goodwill gesture and if the item turns up then you can keep it." (which it never will).

Job's a good'un :thumbsup:


and this is why ebay has went downhill so fast in the last couple of years, scummy sellers giving ebay a bad name which then means ebay/paypal come in with a sledgehammer introducing daft new rules all because a few pieces of trash rip the proverbial out of it.
#13
casparwhite
sounds like youve done it before lol


lol...beginners luck...just said the first idea that I though off....:whistling: lol
#14
StevenA2000_uk
lol...beginners luck...just said the first idea that I though off....:whistling: lol


youve left me wondering what you could come up with if you gave it some thought then?:w00t:
#15
ants97
and this is why ebay has went downhill so fast in the last couple of years, scummy sellers giving ebay a bad name which then means ebay/paypal come in with a sledgehammer introducing daft new rules all because a few pieces of trash rip the proverbial out of it.


OP asked a question...I just gave him an answer....:whistling:
#16
StevenA2000_uk
Do the right thing. Sell it to your mate and get cash in hand, so no scamming from ebay will result.

mark the item as posted....but obviously dont post it. In a weeks time the buyer will say, wheres my item? to which you can reply, "dunno mate, must have got lost in the post, but rather than wait the time states to qualify it lost in the post, I'll refund you in full as a goodwill gesture and if the item turns up then you can keep it." (which it never will).

Job's a good'un :thumbsup:

Haha.
The item isn't exactly cheap -abt £300, can't mention what it is for obvious reasons- so saying it got lost in the post AND refunding the money is bound to smell fishy!

I'm still going to issue a refund no matter what.
#17
axhole
Haha.
The item isn't exactly cheap -abt £300, can't mention what it is for obvious reasons- so saying it got lost in the post AND refunding the money is bound to smell fishy!

I'm still going to issue a refund no matter what.


lol...well refunding the money is a given if you've already sold it to your m8! lol.....glad you're doing the right thing tho... :thumbsup:
#18
I think my idea is the best so far (serious).
#19
The JFK
I think my idea is the best so far (serious).

It definitely is more understandable than saying I already sold the item :thumbsup:
#20
StevenA2000_uk
OP asked a question...I just gave him an answer....:whistling:


I know and its actions like this that leads paypal to hold cash until the seller receives + feedback or 21 days pass.
so the next "high risk" item the seller sells and hasn't already flogged it, when he posts the thread "paypal are holding my cash what can I do" I'll be interested to hear what some people have to say.
#21
axhole
It definitely is more understandable than saying I already sold the item :thumbsup:


+1.
#22
The JFK
Tell him you were driving to the post office to post the item and you were in a tragic car crash and the item got damaged and you have broken both your legs.

I am sure he will understand.

Yes, no?


The JFK
I think my idea is the best so far (serious).


In all honesty, if I was the buyer, I wouldnt give a flying **** about the sellers state of health other than them being compus mentus enough to refund me...whether he walks to the PC or crawls is irrelevant, just so long as he has the ability to click the refund button. :w00t:
#23
ants97
I know and its actions like this that leads paypal to hold cash until the seller receives + feedback or 21 days pass.
so the next "high risk" item the seller sells and hasn't already flogged it, when he posts the thread "paypal are holding my cash what can I do" I'll be interested to hear what some people have to say.


When did they start holding cash from sales? I sell high value items and the money is always available for me to transfer out to my bank account straight away.

Is it for new sellers?
#24
if u dont want to sell at final price, put a reserve on it., or a higher start price

i hate sellers welching on deals for this reason....

con artists are ruining ebay....
#25
axhole
That's why I'm concerned.
Anyway, ebay feedback will be moot after 2012.


Whats happening to the feedback in 2012?
#26
thesummerof69
Whats happening to the feedback in 2012?


That, my friend, is not the right question.:evil::evil::evil:
#27
axhole
That, my friend, is not the right question.:evil::evil::evil:


Well what is the right question?
#28
thesummerof69
Well what is the right question?


What's happening to the World in 2012...

but never mind that statement; was just being silly.
#29
I'm going with the item misplaced in post story... have just told the buyer to expect the item soon.

I'll eventually think of a plausible story that'll make it possible for me to have to refund the buyer -while retaining the 'returned' item.

Thanks to everyone who made a suggestion. I'll let you know how this plays out.
#30
axhole
I'm going with the item misplaced in post story... have just told the buyer to expect the item soon.

I'll eventually think of a plausible story that'll make it possible for me to have to refund the buyer -while retaining the 'returned' item.

Thanks to everyone who made a suggestion. I'll let you know how this plays out.


don't know why you just didn't tell the guy the truth and take the hit. now its being drawn out for another week or so with yuo holding the guys cash and its not exactly a couple of quid we're talking here, while you lie away to him.
post your ebay user name so I can stick you on my blocked bidders list and also avoid taking the risk of buying from you.
#31
axhole
That's why I'm concerned.
Anyway, ebay feedback will be moot after 2012.


You never know. eBay feedback might turn out to be the easiest way for Him to judge us.
#32
how dishonest of you why not just tell the truth
#33
tinkerbell28
Did I read right earlier it's a £300 item? Sorry to say as the above poster says, you have done yourself no favours, you should of told the truth. For an item of that value a buyer will NEVER believe you sent it untracked without relevant insurance. When the buyer asks for a tracking number and you can't give it, he will know you have lied and don't want to complete the sale for whatever reason.
If I were you I would expect a neg and a non performing strike which can see you restricted or suspended. Oh and expect paypal to hold your money on future sales, as you will have a previous unsatisfied buyer on a high value item.
You really should of told the truth, the buyer will know your lying and worse dragging out their refund, not a great move IMO.


bargainhunter5
how dishonest of you why not just tell the truth


ants97
don't know why you just didn't tell the guy the truth and take the hit. now its being drawn out for another week or so with you holding the guys cash and its not exactly a couple of quid we're talking here, while you lie away to him.
post your ebay user name so I can stick you on my blocked bidders list and also avoid taking the risk of buying from you.


I understand your sentiments and I deserve to be called dishonest.
However, I gave this a lot of thought and I believe this is the right thing to do.

Granted that 'right' is purely subjective and my judgment is flawed, I made a mistake and broke laws in the process.
By admitting that I already sold the item before the buyer actually placed a bid on it, I'd be alerting the buyer to my mistake. If he's a solicitor or a wealthy person it doesn't take much to get legal action taken against me.

I am not a dishonest person, I don't intend to benefit from this BUT I'm as self-protective as the next guy. I'd be naïve to expect him to say "oh, I thought the deal was too good to be true" and just give me a positive either way... but I stand by my decision.
When I issue the refund, I'll include an additional £5 not as a form of penance, but for having kept his money longer than I should have. That's a better interest rate for a few days than any bank would give.
banned#34
axhole
I understand your sentiments and I deserve to be called dishonest.
However, I gave this a lot of thought and I believe this is the right thing to do.

Granted that 'right' is purely subjective and my judgment is flawed, I made a mistake and broke laws in the process.
By admitting that I already sold the item before the buyer actually placed a bid on it, I'd be alerting the buyer to my mistake. If he's a solicitor or a wealthy person it doesn't take much to get legal action taken against me.

I am not a dishonest person, I don't intend to benefit from this BUT I'm as self-protective as the next guy. I'd be naïve to expect him to say "oh, I thought the deal was too good to be true" and just give me a positive either way... but I stand by my decision.
When I issue the refund, I'll include an additional £5 not as a form of penance, but for having kept his money longer than I should have. That's a better interest rate for a few days than any bank would give.



You're going to get a neg no matter what. Just email him and say you made a mistake and you can't sell it to him anymore
An ebay bid isn't a legally binding contract, thats a myth, and anyone legally minded will know that and wouldn't even think about starting action against you. Its against ebays t&c's, it isnt law.

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