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Petitions..... do they work?

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banned5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
There was a pretty heated debate on here the other day about online petitions being a waste of time (in some peoples opinions).

Looks like those thinking that way will have to have a rethink.
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banned5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
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banned#1
banned#2
I hope they have effect especially for animal welfare.
banned#3
DLM
I hope they have effect especially for animal welfare.


It's a great way forward on behalf of Cameron. Hopefully it may get those lazy lumps to realise they have a voice rather than just sitting watching Jeremy Kyle having a moan.
#4
After the Lib Dems lying to get elected i dont think a petition will matter to them, They wont even keep their word to the voters who put them where they are, They now have five years of doing whatever they like,
banned#5
dcx_badass
They do this already if you make it on the official government petition site, they just mention and dismiss it.


It's actually been taken down from official number 10 site. The new idea is to get it on the Directgov site and then go from there.
[mod]#6
If I remember correctly it was me that said that they will get attention.
banned#7
tonyg1962
After the Lib Dems lying to get elected i dont think a petition will matter to them, They wont even keep their word to the voters who put them where they are, They now have five years of doing whatever they like,


Either way, it'll be good to get stuff heard in the house of commons that may not have had see the light of day previously. The media will jump on this as well so what may have once been a petition handed over to the cleaner at Number 10 (who probably just put it in the bin), this is a positive way forward to get subjects that matter to Joe Public aired.
#8
JonnyTwoToes
tonyg1962
After the Lib Dems lying to get elected i dont think a petition will matter to them, They wont even keep their word to the voters who put them where they are, They now have five years of doing whatever they like,
Either way, it'll be good to get stuff heard in the house of commons that may not have had see the light of day previously. The media will jump on this as well so what may have once been a petition handed over to the cleaner at Number 10 (who probably just put it in the bin), this is a positive way forward to get subjects that matter to Joe Public aired.

Its certainly a way of giving that impression. What may or may not happen, only time will tell.
banned#9
WoolyM
JonnyTwoToes
tonyg1962
After the Lib Dems lying to get elected i dont think a petition will matter to them, They wont even keep their word to the voters who put them where they are, They now have five years of doing whatever they like,
Either way, it'll be good to get stuff heard in the house of commons that may not have had see the light of day previously. The media will jump on this as well so what may have once been a petition handed over to the cleaner at Number 10 (who probably just put it in the bin), this is a positive way forward to get subjects that matter to Joe Public aired.


Its certainly a way of giving that impression. What may or may not happen, only time will tell.


Better than nothing. It'll be up to the public to use it correctly.
banned#10
JonnyTwoToes
DLM
I hope they have effect especially for animal welfare.
It's a great way forward on behalf of Cameron. Hopefully it may get those lazy lumps to realise they have a voice rather than just sitting watching Jeremy Kyle having a moan.

I am a lazy little lump who doesn't like JK.
#11
JonnyTwoToes
WoolyM
JonnyTwoToes
tonyg1962
After the Lib Dems lying to get elected i dont think a petition will matter to them, They wont even keep their word to the voters who put them where they are, They now have five years of doing whatever they like,
Either way, it'll be good to get stuff heard in the house of commons that may not have had see the light of day previously. The media will jump on this as well so what may have once been a petition handed over to the cleaner at Number 10 (who probably just put it in the bin), this is a positive way forward to get subjects that matter to Joe Public aired.
Its certainly a way of giving that impression. What may or may not happen, only time will tell.
Better than nothing. It'll be up to the public to use it correctly.

Surely it will also depend on the manner in which it is managed.
banned#12
Do some signing on here for defenceless animals:-

http://www.ciwf.org.uk/
#13
More spin.
banned#14
WoolyM
JonnyTwoToes
WoolyM
JonnyTwoToes
tonyg1962
After the Lib Dems lying to get elected i dont think a petition will matter to them, They wont even keep their word to the voters who put them where they are, They now have five years of doing whatever they like,
Either way, it'll be good to get stuff heard in the house of commons that may not have had see the light of day previously. The media will jump on this as well so what may have once been a petition handed over to the cleaner at Number 10 (who probably just put it in the bin), this is a positive way forward to get subjects that matter to Joe Public aired.
Its certainly a way of giving that impression. What may or may not happen, only time will tell.
Better than nothing. It'll be up to the public to use it correctly.


Surely it will also depend on the manner in which it is managed.


Yes, as well as the way the pubic use it. Be a real shame to see petitions of 100,000 or more signatures asking for goldfish to get the vote.

This is a good step away from having to be managed. You know, that unfortunate state this country is in because it's members are constantly requiring a nudge from authorities to actually do anything in life.
banned#15
Inactive
More spin.


Lazy.
#16
JonnyTwoToes
Inactive
More spin.


Lazy.


But accurate.
banned#17
Inactive
JonnyTwoToes
Inactive
More spin.


Lazy.


But accurate.


Really? So without even having something up and running, and without even seeing an example of it, you call it spin.
That, in my opinion, is lazy. I guess some people don't want things to get better, or at least can't be bothered to make an effort.
#18
The thing is, even if there is a petition that gains massive public support, there is still the option for the politicians to rubbish it or ignore it if it does not suit their current agenda. In that way it can be considered spin. Especially as it was Tony Blair who first introduced the idea of petitions.
banned#19
The government intends to shut down the e-petitions part of the Number 10 website, which has been suspended since the general election, and open a similar facility on the Directgov website.


lol
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JonnyTwoToes
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JonnyTwoToes
Inactive
More spin.


Lazy.


But accurate.


Really? So without even having something up and running, and without even seeing an example of it, you call it spin.
That, in my opinion, is lazy. I guess some people don't want things to get better, or at least can't be bothered to make an effort.


If you honestly believe that this, or any government actually cares what anybody other than themselves actually thinks, then fair enough, I do not.
#21
Idea being discussed here as well. Read the comments section
Link
banned#22
WoolyM
The thing is, even if there is a petition that gains massive public support, there is still the option for the politicians to rubbish it or ignore it if it does not suit their current agenda. In that way it can be considered spin. Especially as it was Tony Blair who first introduced the idea of petitions.


But that's the beauty of a democracy.
banned#23
Inactive
JonnyTwoToes
Inactive
JonnyTwoToes
Inactive
More spin.


Lazy.


But accurate.


Really? So without even having something up and running, and without even seeing an example of it, you call it spin.
That, in my opinion, is lazy. I guess some people don't want things to get better, or at least can't be bothered to make an effort.


If you honestly believe that this, or any government actually cares what anybody other than themselves actually thinks, then fair enough, I do not.


Gee, what a terrible outlook on life.

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