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5y, 9m agoPosted 5 years, 9 months ago
Angry motorists are planning a mass demonstration against soaring fuel prices by staging a "go-slow" protest drive along the M25 during rush hour.

Activists will meet at the A2/M2 Farthing Corner Moto services in Medway and drive through the Dartford Crossing to Essex in convoy before parking outside oil refineries in Grays and Coryton.

Organisers said they had scheduled the protest for Monday, February 28, starting at 8am so to have "maximum impact".
It's not going to make the government stop putting the price up,but I think they should be deducting some of that massive 80% + Tax they are getting.
Politicians don't pay for the fuel they use like we do & to say we are all in the same boat is then obviously another lie.


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[mod] 3 Likes #1
Backward thinking............by doing this they hit the people trying to go to work in the pocket by making them late/unable to get to work. Meanwhile the extra petrol being used to make the protests/queue nets the government a bit extra in tax.

Genius :D
banned 2 Likes #2
Inconsiderate idiots - maybe if they had a job to go to during 'rush hour' then the cost of petrol wouldn't hit them so hard.
3 Likes #3
prices really are ridiculous..... will it work? i dunno but u cant blame them for trying.

really should be clamping down on tax evaders, ie the big companies.
#4
I'm for some action,but not sure this is the way to go.
We can't just sit back & keep watching it go up,can we ?
[mod] 1 Like #5
WheresMeNuts
I'm for some action,but not sure this is the way to go.
We can't just sit back & keep watching it go up,can we ?


Current price of Brent Crude means petrol is going to sky rocket again soon.
banned 2 Likes #6
WheresMeNuts
I'm for some action,but not sure this is the way to go.
We can't just sit back & keep watching it go up,can we ?


Spoiler alert - petrol prices will continue to rise and I don't think it's inconceivable that £2 a litre will be hit within 3-5 years.
1 Like #7
FilthAndFurry
WheresMeNuts
I'm for some action,but not sure this is the way to go.
We can't just sit back & keep watching it go up,can we ?


Spoiler alert - petrol prices will continue to rise and I don't think it's inconceivable that £2 a litre will be hit within 3-5 years.

sooner than that i reckon....
2 Likes #8
within a 12 month period is a more likely prediction!
banned 1 Like #9
Didn't want to be too depressing on a Monday morning.
1 Like #10
FilthAndFurry
WheresMeNuts
I'm for some action,but not sure this is the way to go.
We can't just sit back & keep watching it go up,can we ?


Spoiler alert - petrol prices will continue to rise and I don't think it's inconceivable that £2 a litre will be hit within 3-5 years.


its not like people cant actually afford it anyway.

expect food prices to rise over the next few years due to the wordlwide food shortage and expect energy supplies to more than likely double

get a job and stop buying iphones/lcd tvs/gaming consoles, fags, booze etc etc

when youve done all that then still cant afford to put food on your table or petrol in the car then maybe you may have a case to complain.......
2 Likes #11
They are saying £2 p/litre by next summer.
It maybe going up & the government have no control over this,but they have control over the % they charge & at over 80% they are taken the mickey when you also take in to consideration the state of the roads & the amount of people who are out of work just now.

Some people need a car if they work far away from work & can spend around 25% p/week just now so next year it will be around 35%.
#12
Within the next year or so you should see alot of electric hybrid etc cars on the road so hopefully not get stung with £2 per litre charges.. I know it's not every vehicle atm
1 Like #13
SLIKWIK have you seen the price of the Hybrids????????? dont be so rediculous!!
#14
WheresMeNuts
They are saying £2 p/litre by next summer.
It maybe going up & the government have no control over this,but they have control over the % they charge & at over 80% they are taken the mickey when you also take in to consideration the state of the roads & the amount of people who are out of work just now.

Some people need a car if they work far away from work & can spend around 25% p/week just now so next year it will be around 35%.


so if this did actually reduce the tax on fuel by some divine intervention/ miracle.........where do you think the goverment is going to increase taxes to recoup the cost?

do you think non motorists would be happy to take up the slack or do you think this money is gonna just materialize out of thin air?
2 Likes #15
casparwhite
FilthAndFurry
WheresMeNuts
I'm for some action,but not sure this is the way to go.
We can't just sit back & keep watching it go up,can we ?


Spoiler alert - petrol prices will continue to rise and I don't think it's inconceivable that £2 a litre will be hit within 3-5 years.


its not like people cant actually afford it anyway.

expect food prices to rise over the next few years due to the wordlwide food shortage and expect energy supplies to more than likely double

get a job and stop buying iphones/lcd tvs/gaming consoles, fags, booze etc etc

when youve done all that then still cant afford to put food on your table or petrol in the car then maybe you may have a case to complain.......
I don't drink or smoke & work around 55 hours p/week & still find it hitting my wallet hard.
I do have a console for the kid & I have a iphone,but I think we are all allowed to have these things if we work hard for them.The government on the other hand are very happy to take great pay & also use tax money to help there own lifestyle.
We are most definitely not in the same boat.
#16
SlikWik
Within the next year or so you should see alot of electric hybrid etc cars on the road so hopefully not get stung with £2 per litre charges.. I know it's not every vehicle atm

Even if that were true you would be stung by the energy companies hikes in the cost of energy.
I imagine if this continues there will be a massive rethink in where people decide to live and work.
banned#17
FilthAndFurry
WheresMeNuts
I'm for some action,but not sure this is the way to go.
We can't just sit back & keep watching it go up,can we ?


Spoiler alert - petrol prices will continue to rise and I don't think it's inconceivable that £2 a litre will be hit within 3-5 years.


Keep dreaming! :(
#18
AGREED u will see more hybrid cars...but they are stupidly expensive, not to mention ugly!
#19
WheresMeNuts
casparwhite
FilthAndFurry
WheresMeNuts
I'm for some action,but not sure this is the way to go.
We can't just sit back & keep watching it go up,can we ?


Spoiler alert - petrol prices will continue to rise and I don't think it's inconceivable that £2 a litre will be hit within 3-5 years.


its not like people cant actually afford it anyway.

expect food prices to rise over the next few years due to the wordlwide food shortage and expect energy supplies to more than likely double

get a job and stop buying iphones/lcd tvs/gaming consoles, fags, booze etc etc

when youve done all that then still cant afford to put food on your table or petrol in the car then maybe you may have a case to complain.......
I don't drink or smoke & work around 55 hours p/week & still find it hitting my wallet hard.
I do have a console for the kid & I have a iphone,but I think we are all allowed to have these things if we work hard for them.The government on the other hand are very happy to take great pay & also use tax money to help there own lifestyle.
We are most definitely not in the same boat.


so you can afford it and still have disposble income to waste on iphones etc.

i lol

so what is your basis for crying?
#20
Yeah that will show them! paying £1.50 for cars and more for lorries to cross Dartford Crossing! not to mention the amount of hastle it will cause of drivers on the way to work! Im all up for protesting but not through dartford tunnel! its a pain at the best of times to get through!

No ikea for me today then :(
1 Like #21
casparwhite


so you can afford it and still have disposble income to waste on iphones etc.

i lol

so what is your basis for crying?
So you think I should work 55 hours p/week to feed the government,Are you stupid ?
Are you saying we all should not have phones or cars & our kids should not have consoles,please explain this ?

BTW: Me asking a question is not me crying & your replies are just stupid & selfish.

Edited By: WheresMeNuts on Feb 28, 2011 10:03
#22
point of fact petrol prices go up, eveything else goes up......
#23
Alfonse
point of fact petrol prices go up, eveything else goes up......
Yes but everything else does not have the high % tax on it that fuel does & so the government could help out it's own people if it wanted to.
#24
WheresMeNuts
Alfonse
point of fact petrol prices go up, eveything else goes up......
Yes but everything else does not have the high % tax on it that fuel does & so the government could help out it's own people if it wanted to.


i know, your point? fuel increases affect the costs of many consumer items and services.
#25
WheresMeNuts
casparwhite


so you can afford it and still have disposble income to waste on iphones etc.

i lol

so what is your basis for crying?
So you think I should work 55 hours p/week to feed the government,Are you stupid ?
Are you saying we all should not have phones or cars & our kids should not have consoles,please explain this ?


we dont live under a dictatorship last time i checked.....

you didnt answer my question.....where do you think the cash would come from if they reduced taxes on fuel?
#26
Protesters against the cost of fuel are holding a go-slow along two motorways in Kent and Essex to try to get the government to review pump prices.

A convoy of about 10 vehicles left the M2 services at Farthing Corner in Kent at 0815 GMT on Monday.

They were planning to join the M25 and cross the River Thames at Dartford into Essex, where they were heading to the Petroplus Coryton Refinery at Grays.

The government has said it is thinking of cancelling April's fuel duty rise.

'Extra hours'
Kent Police, which had been expecting up to 40 vehicles to take part in the convoy, said its officers would escort the protesters into Essex.

No traffic disruption was reported as the convoy set out.

The average price of a litre of petrol now stands at nearly £1.30, with more than 80p going to the Treasury in VAT and fuel duty.

One of the protesters, Donna Butler, said her taxi driver father was struggling to make ends meet and was having to work extra hours on Friday and Saturday nights.

"Because fuel costs have risen so much he has got to put in the extra hours to pay his mortgage and his bills.

"It is horrible to see your own family struggle like that," she said.

But Kent Green Party spokesman Steve Dawe said he believed the protesters were wrong.

'Long-term future'
"They need to be looking at public transport options and to be considering their own vehicle use to reduce their fuel bills," he said.

"We must consider the long-term future and the nature of our economy. We cannot keep using oil as if it was cheap."

Former Labour chancellor Alistair Darling announced a further 1p a litre rise for this April in last year's Budget.

But in January, Chancellor George Osborne said he was considering cancelling the increase in this year's Budget on 23 March.
#27
WheresMeNuts
Alfonse
point of fact petrol prices go up, eveything else goes up......
Yes but everything else does not have the high % tax on it that fuel does & so the government could help out it's own people if it wanted to.


im sure they will when the national debt has been paid off....until then i dont think they are in the position to give people extra pocket money to waste on crap
1 Like #28
casparwhite
so if this did actually reduce the tax on fuel by some divine intervention/ miracle.........where do you think the goverment is going to increase taxes to recoup the cost?

do you think non motorists would be happy to take up the slack or do you think this money is gonna just materialize out of thin air?

This is the usual nonsensical argument put forward, presumably by rich tax evading people.

Simple solutions, tax the rich more, tax banks to make sure they don't make a mess again and pay something back into the system, close tax evasion loop holes, and make income tax automatically deductible on ebay transactions to stop the tax evaders on there. Do all that and you could cut fuel duty to zero and break even. Still the type who are MP's are the lazy "which tax do you want to rise in its place?" type - rather than the "let's do this instead to get more tax" type.

WheresMeNuts
I don't drink or smoke & work around 55 hours p/week & still find it hitting my wallet hard.

Where you choose to live also has a bearing. You pay more to live somewhere nicer. Plus landlords all like to screw people over for as much money as possible for their properties, but not seeing any anti-landlord/house price protests?!

Edited By: anewman on Feb 28, 2011 10:11
#29
casparwhite
WheresMeNuts
casparwhite


so you can afford it and still have disposble income to waste on iphones etc.

i lol

so what is your basis for crying?
So you think I should work 55 hours p/week to feed the government,Are you stupid ?
Are you saying we all should not have phones or cars & our kids should not have consoles,please explain this ?


we dont live under a dictatorship last time i checked.....

you didnt answer my question.....where do you think the cash would come from if they reduced taxes on fuel?
That's not my problem & that's why they get a great wage to figure out themselves where to get extra money from.
Maybe they should take a pay-cut just to get the ball rolling.
#30
anewman
casparwhite
so if this did actually reduce the tax on fuel by some divine intervention/ miracle.........where do you think the goverment is going to increase taxes to recoup the cost?

do you think non motorists would be happy to take up the slack or do you think this money is gonna just materialize out of thin air?

This is the usual nonsensical argument put forward, presumably by rich tax evading people.

Simple solutions, tax the rich more, tax banks to make sure they don't make a mess again and pay something back into the system, close tax evasion loop holes, and make income tax automatically deductible on ebay transactions to stop the tax evaders on there. Do all that and you could cut fuel duty to zero and break even. Still the type who are MP's are the lazy "which tax do you want to rise in its place?" type - rather than the "let's do this instead to get more tax" type.


can we have your equations please?
#31
casparwhite
anewman
casparwhite
so if this did actually reduce the tax on fuel by some divine intervention/ miracle.........where do you think the goverment is going to increase taxes to recoup the cost?

do you think non motorists would be happy to take up the slack or do you think this money is gonna just materialize out of thin air?

This is the usual nonsensical argument put forward, presumably by rich tax evading people.

Simple solutions, tax the rich more, tax banks to make sure they don't make a mess again and pay something back into the system, close tax evasion loop holes, and make income tax automatically deductible on ebay transactions to stop the tax evaders on there. Do all that and you could cut fuel duty to zero and break even. Still the type who are MP's are the lazy "which tax do you want to rise in its place?" type - rather than the "let's do this instead to get more tax" type.


can we have your equations please?


motorist or not everyone ends up paying, its in everyone's interest
#32
WheresMeNuts
casparwhite
WheresMeNuts
casparwhite


so you can afford it and still have disposble income to waste on iphones etc.

i lol

so what is your basis for crying?
So you think I should work 55 hours p/week to feed the government,Are you stupid ?
Are you saying we all should not have phones or cars & our kids should not have consoles,please explain this ?


we dont live under a dictatorship last time i checked.....

you didnt answer my question.....where do you think the cash would come from if they reduced taxes on fuel?
That's not my problem & that's why they get a great wage to figure out themselves where to get extra money from.
Maybe they should take a pay-cut just to get the ball rolling.


this is what makes our country so great.....
banned#33
anewman

This is the usual nonsensical argument put forward, presumably by rich tax evading people.

Simple solutions, tax the rich more, tax banks to make sure they don't make a mess again and pay something back into the system, close tax evasion loop holes, and make income tax automatically deductible on ebay transactions to stop the tax evaders on there. Do all that and you could cut fuel duty to zero and break even. Still the type who are MP's are the lazy "which tax do you want to rise in its place?" type - rather than the "let's do this instead to get more tax" type.



The 'rich' already pay 50% income tax. To put that into terms you might understand, for every £1 they earn, 50p (roughly) goes to the government. That is about as much as a reasonable person could possibly be happy with paying.

Yet these people are often the people working to create jobs for other people. I know a lot of people hate these people and characterise them as toffs or 'lucky' but many of them are just hard-working intelligent people that we really need to keep in this country. Force them to move abroad by taxing them too much and what are you left with?
#34
Alfonse
casparwhite
anewman
casparwhite
so if this did actually reduce the tax on fuel by some divine intervention/ miracle.........where do you think the goverment is going to increase taxes to recoup the cost?

do you think non motorists would be happy to take up the slack or do you think this money is gonna just materialize out of thin air?

This is the usual nonsensical argument put forward, presumably by rich tax evading people.

Simple solutions, tax the rich more, tax banks to make sure they don't make a mess again and pay something back into the system, close tax evasion loop holes, and make income tax automatically deductible on ebay transactions to stop the tax evaders on there. Do all that and you could cut fuel duty to zero and break even. Still the type who are MP's are the lazy "which tax do you want to rise in its place?" type - rather than the "let's do this instead to get more tax" type.


can we have your equations please?


motorist or not everyone ends up paying, its in everyone's interest


lost me......

i wanted his equations on how taxing ebay sellers is gonna cancel out fuel duties
#35
casparwhite

can we have your equations please?
Can we have yours ?
3 Likes #36
casparwhite
can we have your equations please?

Tax income from fuel duty £30 billion per year
Cost of tax evasion to the economy, £30 billion http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/tax-evasion-costs-treasury-15-times-more-than-benefit-fraud/a378274
banned 1 Like #37
WheresMeNuts
casparwhite
WheresMeNuts
casparwhite


so you can afford it and still have disposble income to waste on iphones etc.

i lol

so what is your basis for crying?
So you think I should work 55 hours p/week to feed the government,Are you stupid ?
Are you saying we all should not have phones or cars & our kids should not have consoles,please explain this ?


we dont live under a dictatorship last time i checked.....

you didnt answer my question.....where do you think the cash would come from if they reduced taxes on fuel?
That's not my problem & that's why they get a great wage to figure out themselves where to get extra money from.
Maybe they should take a pay-cut just to get the ball rolling.


So you're angry that duty on petrol is so high, but you have no idea where to actually make change?

Also, MPs salaries aren't that high - people who are intelligent enough to actually find workable solutions tend not to be attracted to a life of public service. You have to spend far too much time serving the public who are notoriously thick.
#38
casparwhite


this is what makes our country so great.....

It's selfish people like you that make this country what it is...............

BTW:If you earn a high wage then you should not be involved in this discussion as it must not be affecting you & we all know that some people in life are all about me me me me me...........
banned 1 Like #39
anewman
casparwhite
can we have your equations please?

Tax income from fuel duty £30 billion per year
Cost of tax evasion to the economy, £30 billion http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/tax-evasion-costs-treasury-15-times-more-than-benefit-fraud/a378274


That says £15 billion.
banned#40
WheresMeNuts
casparwhite


this is what makes our country so great.....

It's selfish people like you that make this country what it is...............

BTW:If you earn a high wage then you should not be involved in this discussion as it must not be affecting you & we all know that some people in life are all about me me me me me...........


The great thing about this country is that anyone can earn a high wage if they're smart enough or work hard enough.

Therefore, this discussion should be open to everyone.

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