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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
Hi my dad and a friend are picking up a car for me tomorrow which isnt taxed and my dad will be driving it back,if he was stopped by the police would he get the fine and points or would it be me as i my name would then be put on the logbook tomorrow when buying the car,my dad said he himself would get the points and fine for it and not me,any idea??thanks
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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#1
The driver but if the car is untaxed or ininsured ie not road legal in any way it can be seized and scrapped, at the very least impounded for which a release fee is charged (usually minimum £120 plus £35 for each day its been there).
#2
why don't you ring the police and ask their advice? no names so they aren't watching out for you !
#3
Has the current owner said why it's not taxed ?

How long has it been since it was last taxed ?

You can check online here (all u need is make & reg.no.) :

http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/application;JSESSIONID_EvlPortalApp=L1DsJhhzSgLWr82r9Stfvms5VY8DS94YV0S1HLwykTHz4y11njL9!1223085591!-734347598?origin=vnav_bar.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.refresh&pageid=Vehicle+Enquiry

It could be an MOT failure or worse ....stolen which is wht they couldn't get it taxed in the 1st place !! :?
#4
Mecoconuts
Has the current owner said why it's not taxed ?

How long has it been since it was last taxed ?

You can check online here (all u need is make & reg.no.) :

http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/application;JSESSIONID_EvlPortalApp=L1DsJhhzSgLWr82r9Stfvms5VY8DS94YV0S1HLwykTHz4y11njL9!1223085591!-734347598?origin=vnav_bar.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.refresh&pageid=Vehicle+Enquiry

It could be an MOT failure or worse ....stolen which is wht they couldn't get it taxed in the 1st place !! :?


Or maybe they bought another car and so didn't want to waste the money on tax for a car they weren't going to use. Damn but you're paranoid dude :lol:
#5
Shengis
Or maybe they bought another car and so didn't want to waste the money on tax for a car they weren't going to use. Damn but you're paranoid dude :lol:


Errrrr.......no road tax .....means invalid insurance ........illegal to drive it ........!!! :roll:

I was just asking a question and making him aware of why it may not be taxed.
#6
Mecoconuts
Errrrr.......no road tax .....means invalid insurance ........illegal to drive it ........!!! :roll:

I was just asking a question and making him aware of why it may not be taxed.


But that's not what you said though (the bold bit). Reading your post made it look like anybody who sells a car without tax is somehow not to be trusted:thinking:

Edit: By the way, many years ago I was stopped with an out of date tax disc and reported for it, given a producer etc. They never came back to me and told me my insurance was invalid because of the tax.......
#7
Mecoconuts
Errrrr.......no road tax .....means invalid insurance ........illegal to drive it ........!!! :roll:


Shengis
Edit: By the way, many years ago I was stopped with an out of date tax disc and reported for it, given a producer etc. They never came back to me and told me my insurance was invalid because of the tax.......


That is because mecoconuts is talking rubbish. In most cases this is not true :thumbsup:
#8
Get the impression you are a young driver.

Wouldn't be an ideal starter for you if he did get caught would it? Too many tax detection vans around now.

IMO not worth the risk for you, can't you wait and get it taxed and insured properly.
#9
peodude
That is because mecoconuts is talking rubbish. In most cases this is not true :thumbsup:


As in...

No MOT/Insurance = Criminal Offence.
No Tax = Civil Offence

?

At least that's how it was back when I was stopped. They used to just pass your details to the DVLC who then issued a fixed penalty notice and told you to buy a tax disc.
banned#10
Mecoconuts
Errrrr.......no road tax .....means invalid insurance ........illegal to drive it ........!!! :roll:



Actually, that's not entirely true. For invalid insurance, it has to be proved the car isn't in a legal roadworthy condition. No tax doesn't prove that - and the car IS still insured (provided its not got bald tires etc and not roadworthy!)

I thought the same as you to be honest - but its not the case. (eg - if someone gets done for no tax - they should also be done for no insurance automatically but this reasoning.... but they don't.
#11
Looks like the law changed early last year ....it's the Sellers responsibility now :

http://www.theaa.com/public_affairs/reports/roadtax-evasion-feb2007.pdf

Have a field day mate ....don't bother taxing it ....speed past any cams as fast as u like and park anywhere you like .....:-D
#12
It's NOT true, you DON'T need tax for insurance.

For a start, you need the insurance to get the tax! So the insurance has to come first, but you say you can't do that without tax, so what do we do.

In MOST policies, the vehicle DOES NOT need tax, or even an MOT, it just states that the vehicle is in a roadworthy condition. Some policies may be worded differently, but these are few and far between.

No tax is a non endorsable offence anyway, if caught, you would only be geetting a fine, and not any points
#13
peodude
It's NOT true, you DON'T need tax for insurance.

For a start, you need the insurance to get the tax! So the insurance has to come first, but you say you can't do that without tax, so what do we do.

In MOST policies, the vehicle DOES NOT need tax, or even an MOT, it just states that the vehicle is in a roadworthy condition. Some policies may be worded differently, but these are few and far between.

No tax is a non endorsable offence anyway, if caught, you would only be geetting a fine, and not any points


That's bull !!

You are only covered by your insurance if your are legally on the road ..........which is Tax, Insurance or MOT.

Without ALL 3 i doubt your insurance would pay out.

The only time you CAN drive is if your going for a registered MOT booking.....!
#14
Mecoconuts
The only time you CAN drive is if your going for a registered MOT booking.....!


As I am in the morning, sans MOT.

Re that AA PDF, where does it say it's the sellers responsible for the tax? All I could see there is that they are responsible for returning the V5(c) to the DVLA which has always been the case.
#15
Shengis
As I am in the morning, sans MOT.

Re that AA PDF, where does it say it's the sellers responsible for the tax? All I could see there is that they are responsible for returning the V5(c) to the DVLA which has always been the case.


Paragraph 5 ...but your right .....only if the DVLA isn't notified.
#16
Mecoconuts
Paragraph 5 ...but your right .....only if the DVLA isn't notified.


In which case the seller deserves to get screwed:thumbsup:
banned#17
Mecoconuts
That's bull !!

You are only covered by your insurance if your are legally on the road ..........which is Tax, Insurance or MOT.


Partly true. You cant buy a road tax without insurance. But you would be insured on the road without a car tax. Seriously, its true (unless the car wasnt roadworthy - and by that it means would pass an MOT test)


Without ALL 3 i doubt your insurance would pay out.

The only time you CAN drive is if your going for a registered MOT booking.....!


People have been paid out whose car wasnt taxed. Like you, I was adamant you're stance was correct on this - until I was shown otherwise!

The key word is roadworthy - and that criteria for Insurance is the MOT.
#18
To answer the OP's question, if the seller registers the car in your name, you will be liable.

I just hope that your Dad is insured to drive the car, that's all.:x
#19
guv
Partly true. You cant buy a road tax without insurance. But you would be insured on the road without a car tax. Seriously, its true (unless the car wasnt roadworthy - and by that it means would pass an MOT test)




People have been paid out whose car wasnt taxed. Like you, I was adamant you're stance was correct on this - until I was shown otherwise!

The key word is roadworthy - and that criteria for Insurance is the MOT.


Your right Guv .....i just checked my insurance with Directline .......it says :

Q:Am I still insured if my road tax has run out?

A:Yes. However, it is an offence to use or permit your vehicle to be on the public highway, without valid insurance cover, valid road tax and a valid MOT (if applicable)

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