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Hi guys, Can you help me out please? I''ve just bought my new 40" lcd and can't wait for it to arrive tomorrow! I have an ordinary sky box so will just just connect up with no probs?? Main quest… Read More
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9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
Hi guys,
Can you help me out please?
I''ve just bought my new 40" lcd and can't wait for it to arrive tomorrow!
I have an ordinary sky box so will just just connect up with no probs??

Main question, I was going to buy one of those blu ray players as I couldn't believe the quality of the pictures but the kind sales chap quietly told me that a playstation 3 does exactly the same thing and i'd get a lot more for my money. Is this right??
If so, what's the best deal that people on here are aware of??
Thanks in advance x x
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9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
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#1
If you play games then the PS3 is maybe a viable option, but if you just watch tv and dvd's, then don't waste your money. A good upscaler is just as good, and unless you sit within 3-4 feet of the TV you will not notice the difference.
#2
KDH001
If you play games then the PS3 is maybe a viable option, but if you just watch tv and dvd's, then don't waste your money. A good upscaler is just as good, and unless you sit within 3-4 feet of the TV you will not notice the difference.


But if the op is after a blu-ray player then the playstation 3 is the best option at the moment, due to the fact that it can be updated.
#3
Curry's have a sale on that ends today, if you have one local to you, get one from there for £300.

It includes 2 games and 2 controllers, you can sell one of the controllers and the games.
#4
calmacuk
But if the op is after a blu-ray player then the playstation 3 is the best option at the moment, due to the fact that it can be updated.


True, but why spend £300 on a PS3 if all you want is to watch dvd's in HD and a £30 player from Argos will do just as good a job of it.
#5
KDH001
True, but why spend £300 on a PS3 if all you want is to watch dvd's in HD and a £30 player from Argos will do just as good a job of it.


Because a £30 DVD player cannot play Blu-rays. :whistling:
#6
You missing the point, there is no need to use blu rays, upscaled looks just as good. Unless you are 3-4 feet from the tv there is no benefit in true hd, blu ray or otherwise so why spend the money?????
#7
A PS3 is a much better option as like others have said it can be updated, has a built in internet browser and is like a Media HUB(it can store music, photos films etc).

Also when teenagers or kids come round they will appreciate that they have a PS3 to play on rather than be bored lol

But it all depends on how much the Blu-ray player you were looking at costs. I highly doubt its cheaper than £250 so getting a PS3 is a much better option.
#8
KDH001
You missing the point, there is no need to use blu rays, upscaled looks just as good. Unless you are 3-4 feet from the tv there is no benefit in true hd, blu ray or otherwise so why spend the money?????


The OP asked about a blu-ray player, I care not about how far they sit from the T.V blah, blah, blah.
#9
PS3 has just been updated so it supports BD Live
#10
PS3 would be a better option for sure!
#11
Thanks for this guys.....although I am a little confused....doesn't take a lot these days!!!
PS3 seems to be more promising so where are the best deals for these at the moment?
Only just come online so have missed the Currys one unfortunately.
#12
Game has a decent one - 40GB PS3, 2 games and extra controller for £300.
#13
thesaint
The OP asked about a blu-ray player, I care not about how far they sit from the T.V blah, blah, blah.


Th op wants to watch HD movies, so wasting money on a PS3 or Blu Ray player is very much what you should care about.

Sitting 3 feet from the tv is the only time you will se any benefit from your £300. Nobody with any sense does that so unless you want to play games forget about PS3''s and Blu Ray players, they are a complete waste of money.
#14
KDH001
Th op wants to watch HD movies, so wasting money on a PS3 or Blu Ray player is very much what you should care about.

Sitting 3 feet from the tv is the only time you will se any benefit from your £300. Nobody with any sense does that so unless you want to play games forget about PS3''s and Blu Ray players, they are a complete waste of money.


You can quote stats and benchmarks etc all day.

I am just responding to what the OP says. She(I assume) has at no point mentioned HD movies, she just stated that she wants to watch Blu-ray movies.

Whether she can tell the difference is unlikely(I know I certainly can't), but that is not the question that she posed. :)
#15
Ordinary sky just conntects via scart, no problems there.

have to agree to KDH001 here, if your just after something that looks good on your TV then dont think you are limited to a blue ray player. you can now get a sky HD box for £99 instore at PC world, as an existing sky customer your aware what packages you can get, simply pay an additional £10 per month on your subscription for the HD channels. no point in laying out £300 for a PS3 if your only going to use it to watch blue ray movies at £20+ a pop.
#16
No she stated she wanted to watch movies in HD, not HD format, to take advantage of the high def tv. The cheappest way to do that is to use standard dvd's upscaled. Thats all I was pointing out, and you have just agreed with me, a PS3 is a waste of money unless you want to play games.
#17
Well, how are standard DVDs HD?

Besides, the upscaler in the PS3 is considerably better then one you can get for £40
#18
KDH001
No she stated she wanted to watch movies in HD, not HD format, to take advantage of the high def tv.


Where did she state that she wanted to watch movies in HD?

Hi guys,
Can you help me out please?
I''ve just bought my new 40" lcd and can't wait for it to arrive tomorrow!
I have an ordinary sky box so will just just connect up with no probs??

Main question, I was going to buy one of those blu ray players as I couldn't believe the quality of the pictures but the kind sales chap quietly told me that a playstation 3 does exactly the same thing and i'd get a lot more for my money. Is this right??
If so, what's the best deal that people on here are aware of??
Thanks in advance x x


KDH001
and you have just agreed with me, a PS3 is a waste of money unless you want to play games.


I agreed that I can't tell the difference, but I still watch VHS on a 6 year old CRT telly, and DVD's on my PS2.

The PS3 does a lot more than play games and Blu-ray, whether the other things are any use to her, I don't know.

At the end of all this is this:

kAREN-ANGEL asked for a [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]blu-ray[/COLOR] player, and the best deals at the moment.
I suggested a way of getting one at a nett cost of ~£240.
#19
Hmmm, I have to disagree with most views here.

I can easily tell the difference with blu-ray and an upscaled DVD, and for me, by a long way, blu-ray is so much more clearer!

I have a PS3, and I bought it for the blu-ray, I'm not into gaming much.

Quote from kAREN

"Main question, I was going to buy one of those blu ray players as I couldn't believe the quality of the pictures but the kind sales chap quietly told me that a playstation 3 does exactly the same thing and i'd get a lot more for my money."

The quality of the pictures Karen is referring to, is I assume blu-ray, and not upscaled playback. So I have to agree with thesaints suggestion to getting a PS3.

I have 1 game for the PS3 and roughly 7 ish blu-rays :)
#20
Get a PS3 for blu ray as it is updated more easily to support new BD functions.

But also if you have a large DVD collection and any are non UK regions (ie american) then pick up a cheap multiregion upscaling player as the PS3's dvd region is UK only. Remember though that upscaling is only an approximation of the high definition viewing experience made by the upscaler doing some mathmatical magic to fill in detail and is notreally HD.
#21
What a lot of differing opinions! Thanks so much guys.

I'm going to have to sit and take on board what everyone has said and try and make my mind up.
The main thing I wanted was a crystal clear picture when watching movies. I was blown away by the quality in the shop.

My tv has arrived today and we have set it up. Struggling to get a great picture to be honest with you. There is very slight ghosting and as my hubby and I are not very good at these things we are not sure what to do about it! I'm obviously not expecting the crystal clear picture but this one is not good enough for the money I paid! Will have to ring up Sony Bravia support methinks!
#22
KDH001;1785687


Sitting 3 feet from the tv is the only time you will se any benefit from your £300. Nobody with any sense does that so unless you want to play games forget about PS3''s and Blu Ray players, they are a complete waste of money.


Thats ********. I only have a small tv and i can clearly see the difference between the blurays and Dvds when upscaled. And i sit from further than 3 feet
1 Like #23
kAREN-ANGEL
What a lot of differing opinions! Thanks so much guys.

I'm going to have to sit and take on board what everyone has said and try and make my mind up.
The main thing I wanted was a crystal clear picture when watching movies. I was blown away by the quality in the shop.

My tv has arrived today and we have set it up. Struggling to get a great picture to be honest with you. There is very slight ghosting and as my hubby and I are not very good at these things we are not sure what to do about it! I'm obviously not expecting the crystal clear picture but this one is not good enough for the money I paid! Will have to ring up Sony Bravia support methinks!


Have a look on avforums.com for a recommended settings thread for your TV. Sometimes some of the image processing options can make things worse, and having the right settings will make a big difference.

And back to your original post - Yes the PS3 will do the same job as a dedicated Blu Ray player, and more. I'm not aware of current Blu Ray player prices, but if they're comparable to (or more expensive than) the price of a PS3, then it's probably worth going for the PS3.
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kAREN-ANGEL;1791194
What a lot of differing opinions! Thanks so much guys.

I'm going to have to sit and take on board what everyone has said and try and make my mind up.
The main thing I wanted was a crystal clear picture when watching movies. I was blown away by the quality in the shop.

My tv has arrived today and we have set it up. Struggling to get a great picture to be honest with you. There is very slight ghosting and as my hubby and I are not very good at these things we are not sure what to do about it! I'm obviously not expecting the crystal clear picture but this one is not good enough for the money I paid! Will have to ring up Sony Bravia support methinks!


Re: Ghosting, I will see if I can help,
What is the model number of the TV you bought? Some older TV have some smear/blur - partly due to slow response time.

What is the source of what you are watching? TV through arieal, freeview box, sky, dvd player -

And what connections are you using - scart, svhs, composite, component or HDMI?
#25
Get a PS3, dont listen to those who are so **** but what you stated in the OP that they think upscaled dvd's are the way to go.

Also the picture may have looked bad due to the Sky box not being the HD box.
banned#26
kAREN-ANGEL

I'm going to have to sit and take on board what everyone has said and try and make my mind up.
The main thing I wanted was a crystal clear picture when watching movies. I was blown away by the quality in the shop.

My tv has arrived today and we have set it up. Struggling to get a great picture to be honest with you. There is very slight ghosting and as my hubby and I are not very good at these things we are not sure what to do about it! I'm obviously not expecting the crystal clear picture but this one is not good enough for the money I paid! Will have to ring up Sony Bravia support methinks!


Did you get this from JL with the free smaller LCD TV I mentioned previously?

So about this ghosting....

Is this from all inputs (ie scart etc) or are you talking about with an analogue tuner (if it has one?) and therefore just a reception problem?

If its a scart or HDMI connection, you should get a pin sharp picture.
banned#27
KDH001;1787246
No she stated she wanted to watch movies in HD, not HD format, to take advantage of the high def tv. The cheappest way to do that is to use standard dvd's upscaled. Thats all I was pointing out, and you have just agreed with me, a PS3 is a waste of money unless you want to play games.

Utter rubbish. Have you actually compared a blu-ray with up-scaled dvd? Its like comparing VHS with DVD!
1 Like #28
csiman
Utter rubbish. Have you actually compared a blu-ray with up-scaled dvd? Its like comparing VHS with DVD!


Heh. It is probably even better than that.

I have noticed a lot of posts on these forums where people say upscaled DVD is not far different from HD.. Now, I do not know where they are getting their information, but if they have witnessed this first hand in their home, they must have serious issues with HD playback.

http://gadgets.fosfor.se/hd-dvd-vs-dvd/ - take a look here

It really is that dramatic if your using the right equipment, set-up correctly.

Regarding this thread though;
The OP has a 40" LCD running at 1080P most likely, that is a resolution of 1920x1080, Full HD runs at this resolution natively. SD movies are 640x480 for 4:3 and 704x480 16:9 - upscaling those signals to Full HD will not make the image sharper, better, or anything like that. It is just making it bigger, in some cases it loses quality in others it doesn't, but it is no way in any shape of form close to the quality of HD.

Get the PS3, ignore the other remarks. Don't run an upscaling standard defition DVD player on such a huge screen - seriously :thumbsup:

Also, bare in mind you should get a PS3 instead of a standalone Blu-Ray player because soon Blu-Ray players will require a firmware update and as far as I am aware, the only one that can theoretically do this is the PS3. So buy not buying a PS3 you a literally putting a very short lifespan on your Blu-Ray player, basically newer movies built for 1.1 players will not work on 1.0 devices until they are updated.

Edit about the distance comments;
Optimum viewing distance from a 40" HDTV screen is twice the screens width. That is about 7 foot, giving pleasurable viewing from anywhere within 5-9 foot. You would need to sit further away to watch SD without noticing serious image problems. Usually around 10-12 foot for a 40" panel. You start losing the detail on HDTV images on a 40" screen when your roughly 11-14 feet away. NOT 3 feet as was suggested lol, nice try though.
#29
You lot are so good on here!
The model of my new tv is a Sony Bravia KDL40D3500.
We have tried the aerial going straight into the tv and with it going into our ordinary Sky box.It has made no difference. I'm not sure about the scart thing, will have to ask hubby when he is up.
The tv tuned itself in automatically.
You can tell i'm not a high tech lass can't you????:?
#30
Try the settings in this thread. You need to access your service menu to do the last few settings, there are instructions on how to do it further down the page (accessing the service menu on Samsung sets invalidates the warranty, but I don't know about Sonys. No one in the thread has made reference to it, so I'd guess not).

Also, from the general comments in the thread, it appears that SD content does suffer from motion blur on this set, and according to one review, messing with the settings wouldn't reduce it. Nonetheless, trying those settings should give you a better picture in general.
#31
All I can say is you people must have some real cheap and tatty tv's if you have to have blu-ray to see any decent picture quality.
Sony are not worrying for nothing about their investment into blu-ray technology.
The important factors are the tv's dedicated input ratings and frequency, and matching this to your players output. You could have the best blu ray player in the world and have a **** picture. Likewise, upscaled to a tv that accepts the output exactly gives a perfect picture, better than some blu-ray outputs if the tv isn't a perfect match.

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