Poor people resenting the well-off!! - HotUKDeals
We use cookie files to improve site functionality and personalisation. By continuing to use HotUKDeals, you accept our cookie and privacy policy.
Get the HotUKDeals app free at Google Play

Search Error

An error occurred when searching, please try again!

Login / Sign UpSubmit

Poor people resenting the well-off!!

£0.00 @
So many stories on the news and in the papers seem to be about this nowadays. The John Terry story is driven by this too.
FilthAndFurry Avatar
banned7y, 1m agoPosted 7 years, 1 month ago
So many stories on the news and in the papers seem to be about this nowadays.

The John Terry story is driven by this too.
FilthAndFurry Avatar
banned7y, 1m agoPosted 7 years, 1 month ago
Options

All Comments

(314) Jump to unreadPost a comment
Comments/page:
Page:
#1
Don't agree with the John Terry comment at all there. He cheated on his wife (with whom he has two children with) with his best friend and work colleague's mother of his daughter. This has nothing to do with resenting the well off... this resolves around responsibility as a public figure and england captain.
#2
i hate paupers back, especially the skanks that download illegal films/games/software
banned#3
Get the tories in power I say.

Those who work for it deserve it! Those who moan about being unable to afford to live of welfare need to get out of this country!

Tax the poor and give the money to the rich, that's what I say. A kind of anti-robin hood!
banned#4
andyat2002
Don't agree with the John Terry comment at all there. He cheated on his wife (with whom he has two children with) with his best friend and work colleague's mother of his daughter. This has nothing to do with resenting the well off... this resolves around responsibility as a public figure and england captain.


Responsibility to play good football you mean? He does.

To think he has to have superior morals than Joe Public is slightly perturbing.
#5
Maybe the terry story is about him betraying his wife? or about handing his mistress 20 grand to "cheer herself up",rather than him being well off?

imo people who cheat on their wives/husbands are the lowest of the low whether they have money or not. dont care if he is a footballer/bank manager/roadsweeper/claiming benefit or whatever.
suspended#6
Football players are very very overpaid.
£170,000 a week for kicking a ball around for 90 minutes?
It's ridiculous. Especially when we have people working as say doctors, policeman, firefighters etc, people who actually have a responsible job, earning that in like 6 years.
banned#7
DarkKnight
Football players are very very overpaid.
£170,000 a week for kicking a ball around for 90 minutes?
It's ridiculous. Especially when we have people working as say doctors, policeman, firefighters etc, people who actually have a responsible job, earning that in like 6 years.


I don't have a problem with it.
If it was that bad, people should revolt and not go to games. They don't because they like to be entertained.

Good on him I say. I wish I had half his talent.
banned#8
Alfonse
i hate paupers back, especially the skanks that download illegal films/games/software


Downloading illegal films, you mean stuff like child porn? Who admits to that on here? Not sure what illegal games and software there are mind.
banned#9
DarkKnight
Football players are very very overpaid.
£170,000 a week for kicking a ball around for 90 minutes?

It's ridiculous. Especially when we have people working as say doctors, policeman, firefighters etc, people who actually have a responsible job, earning that in like 6 years.


lol:roll:
#10
master_chief
Downloading illegal films, you mean stuff like child porn? Who admits to that on here? Not sure what illegal games and software there are mind.


because you should pay for them :roll:

you serious...............
banned#11
Alfonse
because you should pay for them :roll:

you serious...............


Oh you mean illegally download, not download illegal...
#12
master_chief
Oh you mean illegally download, not download illegal...


It's not illegal to download anything... it's illegal to upload it mind...

Technically it's a legal 'grey area' :thumbsup:
#13
DarkKnight
Football players are very very overpaid.
£170,000 a week for kicking a ball around for 90 minutes?
It's ridiculous. Especially when we have people working as say doctors, policeman, firefighters etc, people who actually have a responsible job, earning that in like 6 years.


There's a waiting list to be a fireman... just saying...
#14
JonnyTwoToes
Get the tories in power I say.

Those who work for it deserve it! Those who moan about being unable to afford to live of welfare need to get out of this country!

Tax the poor and give the money to the rich, that's what I say. A kind of anti-robin hood!


cant quite figure out if this is a sarcastic post or not:?
#15
Flodd
It's not illegal to download anything... it's illegal to upload it mind...

Technically it's a legal 'grey area' :thumbsup:


no its illegal to have a copy of a pirate films/games or s/w, its not a criminal offence but a civil matter, hence its the paupers that do this, hence the rich/poor divide resentment of the OP title

:roll:
banned#16
Alfonse
no its illegal to have a copy of a pirate films/games or s/w, its not a criminal offence but a civil matter, hence its the paupers that do this, hence the rich/poor divide resentment of the OP title

:roll:


only paupers engage in piracy? Nice little bubble you live in there!
#17
master_chief
only paupers engage in piracy? Nice little bubble you live in there!


errrr if they could afford it they wouldn't do it :roll:

FACT I don't live in a bubble, physically impossible sorry
banned#18
Alfonse
errrr if they could afford it they wouldn't do it :roll:

FACT I don't live in a bubble, physically impossible sorry


Hilarious on both counts
#19
master_chief
Hilarious on both counts


so how much do you steal, of which you can afford?

answer that then
banned#20
roryk83
cant quite figure out if this is a sarcastic post or not:?


We need a mini revolution in this country.

Those that are poor are poor for a reason (not including disabled or old people in this by the way).

We need the 'cogs' of the machine to enable those with a little get up and go to make money.

Poor people are the cogs. Not everyone can be rich. Those that are rich often deserve to be so and therefore I'm all for taxing everyone to incentivise people to get up on a morning.

I just wish some politicians would be honest enough to voice this opinion.
banned#21
Alfonse
so how much do you steal, of which you can afford?

answer that then


You're derailing the thread, start another on the subject and I'll happily engage in debate on it.
#22
master_chief
You're derailing the thread, start another on the subject and I'll happily engage in debate on it.


I knew you couldn't answer it.

No debate, just your honest answer to what YOU steal which otherwise you could normally afford but choose not to pay for?

invariably I win without YOUR direct answer

awaits epic fail
banned#23
JonnyTwoToes
I'm all for taxing everyone to incentivise people to get up on a morning.


I do pay tax but still can't be bothered getting up in a morning :p
banned#24
Alfonse
I knew you couldn't answer it.

No debate, just your honest answer to what YOU steal which otherwise you could normally afford but choose not to pay for?

invariably I win without YOUR direct answer

awaits epic fail


There you go, we can continue in here http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/599801/piracy-only-for-the-poor
#25
I wouldn't say the John Terry story is driven by this, he's a guy that earns mega-bucks for kicking a ball about - fair play to him, if someone offered me that kind of money to do something like that I'd take it no questions, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people would do the same.

The story is driven by the fact that, aside from being paid so much money, he is the captain of Chelsea and captain of his country's football team. The latter role (and quite possibly the former, but not to the same extent) brings with it a responsibility to behave professionally and above reproach, both on and off the pitch. Now, as most people agree, cheating on your other half is not exactly acting in this manner. To take it ten steps further and not only cheat on his wife, but with one of his wife's best friends, and his own best friend's wife, is reprehensible. That is what is drivng the John Terry story, not money.

As for the poor in general resenting the rich, I wouldn't say this was true either...
#26
master_chief


fail yay

loser and yet you still haven't answer the question there either :roll:
banned#27
civms47

As for the poor in general resenting the rich, I wouldn't say this was true either...


Oh they do! I get spat on daily!




... that's because I'm rich right? :oops:
#28
Do I think one person should earn 50 times (or more) what somebody else does? No
Do I think Footballers, actors etc are the reason for this inequality? No

The papers concentrate of these stories because they know there is anger about the fact that peoples lives are getting harder. This has been made worse among other things to the money being wasted on Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as us all paying for the Banking crisis.

The truth is it's a good distraction. Attack some working/middle class person who has managed to escape the usual rat race, by happening to be good at something that makes a lot of money, and then does something stupid.

The media is of course owned by the super rich.
banned#29
still trying to work out what john terry has got to do with this, or are you saying it isnt because he had an affair with someone elses wife, its because hes minted? i dont really resent anyone, no matter what race, class etc,etc although i must admit i have at times shown a little resentment to my ex, but that has nothing to do with his wealth or lack of it
#30
Plum
Do I think one person should earn 50 times (or more) what somebody else does? No
Do I think Footballers, actors etc are the reason for this inequality? No

The papers concentrate of these stories because they know there is anger about the fact that peoples lives are getting harder. This has been made worse among other things to the money being wasted on Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as us all paying for the Banking crisis.

The truth is it's a good distraction. Attack some working/middle class person who has managed to escape the usual rat race, by happening to be good at something that makes a lot of money, and then does something stupid.

The media is of course owned by the super rich.


From what?
banned#31
Plum
Do I think one person should earn 50 times (or more) what somebody else does? No


Why not?
banned#32
civms47
I wouldn't say the John Terry story is driven by this, he's a guy that earns mega-bucks for kicking a ball about - fair play to him, if someone offered me that kind of money to do something like that I'd take it no questions, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people would do the same.

The story is driven by the fact that, aside from being paid so much money, he is the captain of Chelsea and captain of his country's football team. The latter role (and quite possibly the former, but not to the same extent) brings with it a responsibility to behave professionally and above reproach, both on and off the pitch. Now, as most people agree, cheating on your other half is not exactly acting in this manner. To take it ten steps further and not only cheat on his wife, but with one of his wife's best friends, and his own best friend's wife, is reprehensible. That is what is drivng the John Terry story, not money.

As for the poor in general resenting the rich, I wouldn't say this was true either...


No.

He has to try and guess if the coin will be heads or tails.

Successful people throughout history have enjoyed storied sexual lives - this is just jealousy.
#33
There is a long tradition of resistance to social inequality that might be too easily dismissed in the OP and later posts. I note a tendency here to reify 'talent' and so mask it's cultural and social origins. We could reframe the question to something like: 'is it reasonable for poor people to demand greater social equality?'.

I also note here the myth that the rich are rich and poor are poor entirely of their own doing. This is a nice line to push if you want to maintain existing social structures, but seems a little unlikely. As Bauman suggests, the problem for individuals in our 'individualized society' is that they may no longer look to society to 'put things right'. We don't take collective responsibility it's just 'every man for himself'. A consequence then is an agonistic culture and this leads to discontent, crime and unhappiness.

So here is another question: would we have a happier society if we did more to redistribute wealth including through public goods?
banned#34
Plum
Do I think one person should earn 50 times (or more) what somebody else does? No


Why?

If someone does something 50 times better then they should be rewarded accordingly.
banned#35
Paidia
There is a long tradition of resistance to social inequality that might be too easily dismissed in the OP and later posts. I note a tendency here to reify 'talent' and so mask it's cultural and social origins. We could reframe the question to something like: 'is it reasonable for poor people to demand greater social equality?'.

I also note here the myth that the rich are rich and poor are poor entirely of their own doing. This is a nice line to push if you want to maintain existing social structures, but seems a little unlikely. As Bauman suggests, the problem for individuals in our 'individualized society' is that they may no longer look to society to 'put things right'. We don't take collective responsibility it's just 'every man for himself'. A consequence then is an agonistic culture and this leads to discontent, crime and unhappiness.

So here is another question: would we have a happier society if we did more to redistribute wealth including through public goods?


Why does society have to be uniformly happy?
#36
FilthAndFurry
No.

He has to try and guess if the coin will be heads or tails.

Successful people throughout history have enjoyed storied sexual lives - this is just jealousy.
It is a widely held opinion that people in prominent and influential positions in terms of how their behaviour may affect others (i.e. people who are considered role models) should be held to higher standards in both their professional and private lives.

People who hold such an opinion, and there are many, would be perfectly capable of disapproving of John Terry and passing opinion on what should happen to him without being jealous. You disagreeing with such an opinion doesn't stop it existing.
#37
FilthAndFurry
Why?

If someone does something 50 times better then they should be rewarded accordingly.


Who decides what is fhe 50 times better thing?

Nursery nurse / Chief exec?
Teacher / Hollywood star?
brain surgeon / stockbroker?

Truth is the only measure that is used now is how much profit can be made from them, not how many people they effect or help. In my opinion this leads to a lot of the resentment you talk about.
banned#38
Plum
Who decides what is fhe 50 times better thing?

Nursery nurse / Chief exec?
Teacher / Hollywood star?
brain surgeon / stockbroker?

Truth is the only measure that is used now is how much profit can be made from them, not how many people they effect or help. In my opinion this leads to a lot of the resentment you talk about.


How many Hollywood Stars are there in relation to teachers? 50 to 1 sounds about right, maybe even an understatement.
#39
JonnyTwoToes
We need a mini revolution in this country.

Those that are poor are poor for a reason (not including disabled or old people in this by the way).

We need the 'cogs' of the machine to enable those with a little get up and go to make money.

Poor people are the cogs. Not everyone can be rich. Those that are rich often deserve to be so and therefore I'm all for taxing everyone to incentivise people to get up on a morning.

I just wish some politicians would be honest enough to voice this opinion.


quite an immature view without any insight whatsoever

What then is the "reason" people are poor?
#40
FilthAndFurry
How many Hollywood Stars are there in relation to teachers? 50 to 1 sounds about right, maybe even an understatement.
Surely the correct comparison is how many actors are there compared to teachers? Alternatively might I suggest number of famous teachers to famous actors? Either way it looks like the roles are reversed. If indeed you wish to maintain the fairly ridiculous stance that numbers alone have any correlation to worth/value to society.

Post a Comment

You don't need an account to leave a comment. Just enter your email address. We'll keep it private.

...OR log in with your social account

...OR comment using your social account

Looking for Twitter login?
Thanks for your comment! Keep it up!
We just need to have a quick look and it will be live soon.
The community is happy to hear your opinion! Keep contributing!