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Post-Natal Depression? Info needed

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9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
Is there a link that suffering post-natal depression in the past leads to other forms of depression later in life?

I know if you suffer from PND in your first labour you have around a 30% chance of having PND again, but my quiry is more relating to whether having suffered PND in the past, does it make you any more suceptable to general depression in the future? :)

I know their is probably few medical experts on here but any info or research articles/findings etc would be gratefully received.

Thanks :)
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9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
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#1
Don't know Col but I had to slap my daughter and OH out of it after about 6 weeks - the problem was they keep wearing each other down. A bit of a harsh thing to do but it worked, they both snapped out of it pretty fast :giggle: :giggle:
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Usually PND is caused by the changes to hormones and the female body after birth whereas Depression is caused by more issues such as Seretonin levels. There is no proof either way as anyone can suffer depression at any time for any number of reasons.
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Crazy1 you may be thinking of the "baby blues" which is a more common but completely different thing to PND...

Col - the Royal College of Psychiatrists ([url]www.rcpsych.ac.uk[/url]) has some information on PND. I'll have a look and see what I can find....
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gari189
Crazy1 you may be thinking of the "baby blues" which is a more common but completely different thing to PND...

Col - the Royal College of Psychiatrists ([url]www.rcpsych.ac.uk[/url]) has some information on PND. I'll have a look and see what I can find....


Thanks. I did get that site up on a google search and had a look but am having trouble finding an answer to my particular query :(

Im sure there must be some good info out there and hoping to find it :)
#5
Col I was assured that as long as its treated then there is no significant rise in the likely hood of you suffereing other forms of depression at a later date. although you are at a higher risk of post natal depression again and also depression in pregnancy - the name escapes me-
#6
jennybubbles
Col I was assured that as long as its treated then there is no significant rise in the likely hood of you suffereing other forms of depression at a later date. although you are at a higher risk of post natal depression again and also depression in pregnancy - the name escapes me-


Thanks jennybubbles, this is my belief also.
I just want to find somewhere confirming it as a source of reference :)
#7
Hi Col,

I am not aware of a proven link between post-natal depression and other forms of depression, however, some people do have a predisposition to developing depression, dependant on personality type, coping skills etc (I'm a psychiatric nurse).
#8
Hi, I never suffered from any form of depression untill after the birth of my first daughter.It wasnt baby blues, it was clinical PND.Which passed after a few months of medication and alot of family support.
Im pleased to say i DID NOT have PND after the birth of my second child.That was one thing i was very scared about, incase i did. However in answer to your other question.Sadly I went on to suffer with Clinical Depression many years later which again was sorted with Medication. I believe it was because it * runs in the family* rather than triggered by my previous PostNatal Depression.
#9
Mikzos
Hi Col,

I am not aware of a proven link between post-natal depression and other forms of depression, however, some people do have a predisposition to developing depression, dependant on personality type, coping skills etc (I'm a psychiatric nurse).


Hi thanks for all your replies.

Mikzos- Do you think that if your not usually prone to depression before and have suffered PND but been treated successfully you are any more likely to become depressed again (not including PND)?

Thanks
#10
If the PND was addressed and treated properly at the time most people will make a full recovery and any further occurences of depression should be treated as unrelated. Individuals who have suffered major depressive episodes in the past are more likely to to have a relapse again at some point in their lives.
There are many different factors that can cause depression. Family history of mental illness, social circumstances, biochemical imbalances, stress etc are all contributing factors. This said, it is worth remembering that 1 in 4 of us will suffer some kind of mental health problem during our life-time.
#11
Post natal depression does not equal baby blues and people suffering would do alot of stuff which is totally out of character. I think depression and PND are totally different although I think psychosis could be related. From personal experience I would say there is a greater link between PMT and PND. It is more a psychotic than depressive thing.

One thing is DO treat it serously. My friend sister committed suicide due to PND. Don't take any risks and if you know someone who looks like they need support give it to them 100%.
#12
Severe depression can sometimes have a psychotic element to it, however, I think Gaia may be referring to puerperal psychosis. This is rare and individuals who suffer with puerperal psychosis present differently to those with PND. Irritability, lethargy, loss of appetite, flattened mood etc tend to be common symptoms of PND.
#13
Not too sure about the medical terms ... more that I would say rather than being depressed and lethargic ... the most worrying thing is when your thought process goes totally illogical. Like PMS ... looking back you can have a giggle and think yeh I was totally out of order there. At the time the illogical is totally logical. That I think is when it gets really scary?
#14
Gaia
the most worrying thing is when your thought process goes totally illogical. At the time the illogical is totally logical. That I think is when it gets really scary?

yup totaly
#15
You're right Gaia, disordered thought processes are common in depression (exogenous & endogenous). Psychosis after child birth is not usually a symptom of post-natal depression, instead it is known as puerperal psychosis which is a seperate psychotic illness.
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jennybubbles
yup totaly


LOLOL and this is why Gaia totally adores jen ... to most people what I say is totally uncomprehensible ... to Jen it makes sense :-D!

I am not too sure of all the medical jargon Mikzos just more speaking from personal experience. When I get PMS I minor flip, when I have a baby I major flip. It is the same kinda flipping. I have a friend who is psychotic and her thought processes and mine following a baby are not that far away. At the time it all seems logical only when you look back can you see they were not.

The scoring card things the doctors give you are totally crazy. I remember following completion my doctor sat there and said:

It seems you feel you are not coping as well as normal. Why do you think this might be?

As he said that I was shoogling a screaming baby on one hip and trying to haul my two year old out his filing cabinet while she threw a huge tantrum. I was like DUH???? And literally flung my arms at the situation ...
#17
Gaia
LOLOL and this is why Gaia totally adores jen ... to most people what I say is totally uncomprehensible ... to Jen it makes sense :-D!


No I know what you mean when the only reason you know your doing something wrong or saying something that makes no sense is cos you can see it in your partners face and then your still thinking its them with the problem. I look back on some of the things that were 'rational' and it really freaks me out. Knowing it was hormonal doesn't really help. worrying that it may come back is as scary as hell.

Col i've been looking all night and I still can't find definate info one way or t'other. sorry mate
#18
jennybubbles
Col i've been looking all night and I still can't find definate info one way or t'other. sorry mate


No worries thanks for looking anyway. I'm having same problems, would have thought there was more research but maybe not :-(
#19
I have suffered depression on and off since i was 16, so it was no suprise to my doctor apparently that i had pnd with the birth of my first son, although it did go undiagnosed for the first 7 months as i was kidding myself.

From what I know if you have suffered depression before you have had a baby you probably have a higher % of getting pnd, that saying I didn't have pnd after my 2nd baby and I havent been treated for depression since being weaned off my anitdepressants from the pnd.

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