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130,000 postal workers will walk out for 48 hours at the start of all shifts between 12 noon on Thursday 4th October and 12 noon on Saturday 6th October. There will be a second 48 strike with posta… Read More
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9y, 9m agoPosted 9 years, 9 months ago
130,000 postal workers will walk out for 48 hours at the start of all shifts between 12 noon on Thursday 4th October and 12 noon on Saturday 6th October.

There will be a second 48 strike with postal workers walking out on shifts starting between 3am on Monday 8th and 3am Wednesday 10th October .

Industrial action will cover all duties, scheduled attendance and overtime of every postal worker for two 48 hour periods.

CWU leadership is still seeking an agreement with Royal Mail management over pay and changes to the business. Talks have taken place and are likely to continue over the weekend.
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9y, 9m agoPosted 9 years, 9 months ago
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1 Like #1
If they don't like the job and the great pay they should find another job. Idiots.
#2
Well said Doc.
#3
TheDoc
If they don't like the job and the great pay they should find another job. Idiots.


I think that you will find that they do like the job, but feel they are not being paid enough.

What is the "Great pay", and how do you quantify it? :thinking:
#4
What do they get paid anyway ?
#5
afaik this strike has been about changes in work not the pay, in a few weeks posties will be starting later in the day, hence finishing later, so expect your post to be delivered later!
banned#6
You get a job, you know your wage. End of:whistling:
#7
****ing hell this is such a ****ing issue if they dont like there job quit nothing is stopping them! god sake
Affects my life so much!
#8
So many well thought out posts here, see ya. :arrow:
#9
If these posties didn't like the conditions that they were going to be working under they should never have applied or accepted the job. They just done loads of strikes that severely affected almost everyone and just a month or two later there are going to be more strikes. This is unacceptable and if they feel the need to strike everytime something doesn't go their way then they should either quit or be sacked because the postal service is very important to a lot of people. People wouldn't accept doctors or surgeons going on strike and although posties striking isn't as important as if doctors went on strike, there are severe consequences to not having a postal service for a few days. For example, the last time there were strikes I ordered a gift for one of my cousin's birthday but delivery took about 3 or 4 times longer than usual and the gift wasn't delivered until after my cousins birthday which was very frustrating!
1 Like #10
LOL, before everyone starts caining Postman/Postwomen I suggest you look a little more carefully into it before passing judgement. These strikes have very little now to do with payrises.

Arsenal Fan, you say it's a very important service, well every Postman/woman agrees with you. It's just a shame Alan Leighton & Adam Crozier don't. They are not conerned with people like you, only big companies who line thier pockets.

Qazim, why don't you live int he real world. Not everyone can just go and get another job like that.
#11
I would suggest that as a retaliation people should boycott royal mail where they can by sending more txts, MMS, emails and faxes. Start using DHL and suchlike for parcels.
If they can't do the job properly, the job that we pay them to do via outrageous postal charges, then they don't deserve our business. Then they will have problems to speak of :whistling:
#12
Arsenal Fan
[COLOR="Red"]If these posties didn't like the conditions that they were going to be working under they should never have applied or accepted the job. [/COLOR]They just done loads of strikes that severely affected almost everyone and just a month or two later there are going to be more strikes. This is unacceptable and if they feel the need to strike everytime something doesn't go their way then they should either quit or be sacked because the postal service is very important to a lot of people. People wouldn't accept doctors or surgeons going on strike and although posties striking isn't as important as if doctors went on strike, there are severe consequences to not having a postal service for a few days. For example, the last time there were strikes I ordered a gift for one of my cousin's birthday but delivery took about 3 or 4 times longer than usual and the gift wasn't delivered until after my cousins birthday which was very frustrating!


thats the reason for the strikes, there conditions are being changed
#13
Again? I thought all this had been sorted, I remember reading something to say that there'd be no more disruptions :(
#14
Now then i have a m8 who is a postman and he told me about 3 weeks ago that the strikes were coming back and they might just last until Christmas.

hehe they know when to Scr*w up system dont they.
#15
Another postal strike and another post highlighting the ignorance of some people who cant see outside the bubble of there own little world. I think you will find that the main part of the row is do with modernisation of the company and loss of jobs!! And as for outrageous postal charges...dont make me laugh.
1 Like #16
Starlet
Again? I thought all this had been sorted, I remember reading something to say that there'd be no more disruptions :(


They had never been sorted, they were just put on hold whilst talks continued. Unfortunately Royal Mail are not willing to comprimise with the Union.

I'm a postman myself, I don't agree with the strikes. But if you think it's a bad service now, then I dread to think what your opinions will be when these changes are made. The only people that will be losing out are the customers (i.e yourselves). Fact of the mail is Royal Mail couldn't give a stuff about the customer, they only business they are interested in is companies.

What amazes me is the people who say things like we are charged too much for posting a letter ! If thats the case go find a competitor than can deliver a letter from say Guildford to Scotland the very next day for the price you pay at the moment.

The reason behind these strikes have changed massively since the first wave of strikes. For all those people who turn round and say go get another job and stop complaining, live in the real world. Most people have children, mortgages and other payments to make.

The pay at Royal Mail isn't great, it's not the worst but it's certainly not the best. The way most postman make enough to survive is by doing overtime.

The new working conditions will irradicate any possible overtime and mean as I said before an even worse mail service. But obviously that won't concern you all will it.

If it's raining, snowing, gale force winds and other factors concerning the weather then builders & other such workmen will not work in them. Royal Mail get your mail to you regardless of the conditions.

Let me just say to all the smartarses with thier grown up responses. Take a little time to read up on whats happening before passing comment.
#17
lynothehammer
They had never been sorted, they were just put on hold whilst talks continued. Unfortunately Royal Mail are not willing to comprimise with the Union.

I'm a postman myself, I don't agree with the strikes. But if you think it's a bad service now, then I dread to think what your opinions will be when these changes are made. The only people that will be losing out are the customers (i.e yourselves). Fact of the mail is Royal Mail couldn't give a stuff about the customer, they only business they are interested in is companies.

What amazes me is the people who say things like we are charged too much for posting a letter ! If thats the case go find a competitor than can deliver a letter from say Guildford to Scotland the very next day for the price you pay at the moment.

The reason behind these strikes have changed massively since the first wave of strikes. For all those people who turn round and say go get another job and stop complaining, live in the real world. Most people have children, mortgages and other payments to make.

The pay at Royal Mail isn't great, it's not the worst but it's certainly not the best. The way most postman make enough to survive is by doing overtime.

The new working conditions will irradicate any possible overtime and mean as I said before an even worse mail service. But obviously that won't concern you all will it.

If it's raining, snowing, gale force winds and other factors concerning the weather then builders & other such workmen will not work in them. Royal Mail get your mail to you regardless of the conditions.

Let me just say to all the smartarses with thier grown up responses. Take a little time to read up on whats happening before passing comment.



A well said and thought out post :thumbsup: You guys have always had my support.
#18
lynothehammer
They had never been sorted, they were just put on hold whilst talks continued. Unfortunately Royal Mail are not willing to comprimise with the Union.

I'm a postman myself, I don't agree with the strikes. But if you think it's a bad service now, then I dread to think what your opinions will be when these changes are made. The only people that will be losing out are the customers (i.e yourselves). Fact of the mail is Royal Mail couldn't give a stuff about the customer, they only business they are interested in is companies.

What amazes me is the people who say things like we are charged too much for posting a letter ! If thats the case go find a competitor than can deliver a letter from say Guildford to Scotland the very next day for the price you pay at the moment.

The reason behind these strikes have changed massively since the first wave of strikes. For all those people who turn round and say go get another job and stop complaining, live in the real world. Most people have children, mortgages and other payments to make.

The pay at Royal Mail isn't great, it's not the worst but it's certainly not the best. The way most postman make enough to survive is by doing overtime.

The new working conditions will irradicate any possible overtime and mean as I said before an even worse mail service. But obviously that won't concern you all will it.

If it's raining, snowing, gale force winds and other factors concerning the weather then builders & other such workmen will not work in them. Royal Mail get your mail to you regardless of the conditions.

Let me just say to all the smartarses with thier grown up responses. Take a little time to read up on whats happening before passing comment.


:thumbsup: well said
#19
lynothehammer

What amazes me is the people who say things like we are charged too much for posting a letter !


Who's talking about letters? I'm talking about paying a fiver to have a poncey little 'large packet' sent next day delivery when you can send an entire PC by DHL for £5.99. Where is the problem with that I wonder? :whistling:
Even then, during the strikes, there is absolutely no guarantee that your money will get you a next day delivery, even though you have paid for the service :x
#20
Scribbles
Even then, during the strikes, there is absolutely no guarantee that your money will get you a next day delivery, even though you have paid for the service :x


So don't send it with Royal Mail during the strike days then, go use the £5.99 offer at DHL, apparently they can ship a whole PC for that price.
#21
lynothehammer
So don't send it with Royal Mail during the strike days then, go use the £5.99 offer at DHL, apparently they can ship a whole PC for that price.


You have just stated what I said earlier. Yes, I will be boycotting Royal Mail during and after the strikes, as there are far cheaper and reliable methods of postage available for all bar standard letters. Why will some people refuse to accept that RM's service is, and has been since privatization, *****?
#22
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the prices are acceptable, far from it. We are expensive but unfortunately thats the market today.

What I get annoyed about is people making and passing judgment on postal workers regarding the strike when they don't know the full facts.
#23
It wouldnt be bad if it wasnt for 5 days! thats taking the ****.

And the last few times it happned, anything sent the day before or after about 75% of things sent to me went missing, and most of the rest was sat in the sorting office as posties never bothered bringing it round and I had to keep checking to see if it arrived.
banned#24
lynothehammer
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the prices are acceptable, far from it. We are expensive but unfortunately thats the market today.

What I get annoyed about is people making and passing judgment on postal workers regarding the strike when they don't know the full facts.


Work on my round and I will show you some appreciation:giggle:
#25
Prissymiss
Work on my round and I will show you some appreciation:giggle:


Tease ! LOL !
#26
lynothehammer
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the prices are acceptable, far from it. We are expensive but unfortunately thats the market today.

What I get annoyed about is people making and passing judgment on postal workers regarding the strike when they don't know the full facts.


No, you are right. I am looking at it purely as a paying customer. I have no insight into the grievances of the PAYE postal worker. The reasons for the strikes are probably perfectly understandable, just like the fireman had a completely legit reason to strike.
As a paying customer, if I am not receiving the service I am paying for then i'll go elsewhere. Royal Mail has been getting worse and worse ever since it became a profit making concern.
#27
In the interests of educating my ignorant self & others could I just ask what improvements &/or concessions the previous strikes gained members of the Royal Mail Unions?!?!?
#28
Nothing at the moment, but Royal Mail put the strikes on hold. Like I say, I don't condone the strikes but if you seriously think the service is poor now then all I can say is that your in for a shock.
#29
CHARLIETHIRTYTWO
In the interests of educating my ignorant self & others could I just ask what improvements &/or concessions the previous strikes gained members of the Royal Mail Unions?!?!?

lynothehammer
Nothing at the moment, but Royal Mail put the strikes on hold.

So could you just remind me how many strikes the RM Union called to get this result of absolutely "nothing" (I'm talking about each day of strikes whether this was everyone or just departments, not the countless delays caused by backlogs)?!?!
#30
lynothehammer
They had never been sorted, they were just put on hold whilst talks continued. Unfortunately Royal Mail are not willing to comprimise with the Union.

I'm a postman myself, I don't agree with the strikes. But if you think it's a bad service now, then I dread to think what your opinions will be when these changes are made. The only people that will be losing out are the customers (i.e yourselves). Fact of the mail is Royal Mail couldn't give a stuff about the customer, they only business they are interested in is companies.

What amazes me is the people who say things like we are charged too much for posting a letter ! If thats the case go find a competitor than can deliver a letter from say Guildford to Scotland the very next day for the price you pay at the moment.

The reason behind these strikes have changed massively since the first wave of strikes. For all those people who turn round and say go get another job and stop complaining, live in the real world. Most people have children, mortgages and other payments to make.

The pay at Royal Mail isn't great, it's not the worst but it's certainly not the best. The way most postman make enough to survive is by doing overtime.

The new working conditions will irradicate any possible overtime and mean as I said before an even worse mail service. But obviously that won't concern you all will it.

If it's raining, snowing, gale force winds and other factors concerning the weather then builders & other such workmen will not work in them. Royal Mail get your mail to you regardless of the conditions.

Let me just say to all the smartarses with thier grown up responses. Take a little time to read up on whats happening before passing comment.


Well said,you have my full support..good luck!!!:thumbsup:
#31
Why should we, the general public who pay their wage suffer because they are not happy with 'whatever'. I pay for a service, my mail delivered and that's what I want.
Think of the damage this is doing to the Royal Mail, the workers will soon be pi$$ed off when they don't have a job because everybody is using DHL, ANC etc.
#32
You don't seem to get the point do you ?

I would love to see your reactions to how you would feel to your employers changing work hours/conditions/pay/pensions and pretty much everything you do in your everyday jobrole. I'm sure you wouldn't be making ridiculous comments like postal workers not being happy with whatever and go get another job.
#33
lynothehammer
not being happy with whatever and go get another job.


Excuse my ignorance but It does seem the most logical option, So why isn't this viable solution?
#34
Iom-RF
Excuse my ignorance but It does seem the most logical option, So why isn't this viable solution?


Not ignorance at all, most people enjoy thier jobs. But some people have been in the job so long it's all they know. It's easier said than done to be honest mate.

Believe it or not, the postal workers don't want to strike but some action is needed before the service goe's completely down the pan. It will head that way too.

Like I've said, not enough people know the facts and think this strike is all over pay.
#35
Iom-RF
Excuse my ignorance but It does seem the most logical option, So why isn't this viable solution?


Why? Would you put your house/family at risk by leaving employment and not knowing where your next pay packet will be coming from? These workers have had enough of being dictated to and as a last resort, have decided to go on strike.

No one likes striking and losing money, but in this instance I fully understand the posties reasoning. To be offered a pittance of a pay rise (2.5%, RPI I believe is currently 3.8%) and have nearly every condition changed is an insult.

I was a postie for nearly 20 years, so have a good understanding as to what goes on, not just what is written in the tabloids. My OH still works for RM, so it affects me as a customer and as a family.

Good luck lynothehammer and all the other posties on here, I hope this weeks strike gets called off and you at least get a half decent deal. :thumbsup:
#36
The Posties themselves always seem to work very hard and do a great job in my opinion, however as a whole i must say the postal service in the UK is pretty poor.

I personally would rather pay 10x as much and get a decent service.
#37
lynothehammer
You don't seem to get the point do you ?

No I don't.
What have I ever done to you? Nowt, so why should I suffer with my mail being delayed, lost etc? The Public ain't your enemy, yet.
Continue the talks, striking and affecting us, is not the answer.:x
#38
iand68
Why? Would you put your house/family at risk by leaving employment and not knowing where your next pay packet will be coming from? These workers have had enough of being dictated to and as a last resort, have decided to go on strike.


You'd obviously line up another job before you handed your notice in if your family was dependant on your wage/your housing is at risk etc.

Surely all the hassle (early mornings, grumpy people etc) is all part of the job, whats changed in the last 10 years for everyone to say "well i've had enough, so i'll just strike"..... :?
#39
its not about early mornings and 'grumpy' people, its been said above that its about changing in hours and conditions etc

and im sure that the strikes are a last resort as the posties DO NOT get paid for the hours lost
#40
Iom-RF
You'd obviously line up another job before you handed your notice in if your family was dependant on your wage/your housing is at risk etc.

Surely all the hassle (early mornings, grumpy people etc) is all part of the job, whats changed in the last 10 years for everyone to say "well i've had enough, so i'll just strike"..... :?



Early mornings, grumpy people - yes I can relate to that - it aint just posties that have to put up with that too :roll:
Although my job doesn't directly effect millions like RM does - I'd strike if the same was happening to me. Those guys have, and always will have, my full support

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