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Pregnant Woman Blasts Anti-Abortion Protestors Outside a Clinic

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Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.
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Personally, I believe that each individual woman, regardless of circumstance, should have the right to decide for herself if abortion is appropriate or not for her situation.

The anti abortionists should mind their own business and leave others alone, they're likely having a hard and stressful enough time as it is without being demonised for doing what they believe is right.
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magicbeans
DragonChris
Personally, I believe that each individual woman, regardless of circumstance, should have the right to decide for herself if abortion is appropriate or not for her situation.
The anti abortionists should mind their own business and leave others alone, they're likely having a hard and stressful enough time as it is without being demonised for doing what they believe is right.

you talk about the 'woman's right' what about the 'child's'

you may argue that a foetus isnt a child, but more often than not, these aborted children have beating hearts, to me thats a living being, regardless of how much some of you want to compare it to a parasite...which is pathetic.

unless you have exceptional circumstances, abortion shouldnt be viewed as a choice one considers once they see a positive pregnancy test.....grow up and take on the responsibilities

*prepares for backlash*

To put it simply, there are many factors to take into account - beyond the extremes of rape or abuse, what about stability or the ability to look after a child? Is it right to bring a child into the world who is not wanted? Or one who they are not able to provide for?

Take this as an example - A married couple (or unmarried, whatever) are not yet ready for children: this could be due to being not financially ready, mentally ready, or determine they do not have a suitable environment to bring a child up. The couple use condoms every time. For some reason, they fall pregnant and due to whatever reasons are not ready to be parents.

After deliberating, they decide upon an abortion as the best solution based upon their circumstances to take place at the earliest opportunity.

Does that make them monsters? Are they wrong?

I could other scenarios up to illustrate a number of points, but the main point I'm highlighting is that abortion is a decision that is generally not taken lightly. It's a very personal, likely very difficult decision to make, but women/couples should not be demonized for making the decision and there should be clinics where the treatment can be sought if that is the decision, in peace, in privacy and without interference from these type of people. Who are they to judge?

As an FYI, I didn't compare a foetus to a parasite, that was someone else. But regardless, if they have a living/beating heart, it's still against my beliefs to bring a child into the world that is "unwanted" or is the result of something awful and would far rather have the option of termination if that is the ultimate decision, rather than introduce another being into an already overpopulated planet.

Edited By: DragonChris on Dec 05, 2014 11:07
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It's very simple isn't it? A personal decision made using personal beliefs, opinions, conscience etc. Why do people try to enforce their opinions and beliefs on others? Go lobby the government if you feel very strongly, don't intimidate and bully individuals whose circumstances are really none of your business. Kudos to the woman in the video!

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their banner was a bit graphic, but thats the reality of it, it is a baby (imo). but is insensitive to have it outside an abortion clinic as you just dont know anyones situation and defo shoudnt be filming women going in... they must be going through turmoil anyway.
1 Like #3
and regarding my view on it, you shouldn't be aborting kids unless theres a risk to mother/mother's been raped etc.

so its not like i 100% agreed with the pregnant woman either
1 Like #4
Fair play that women but I am strictly against abortion, we see prem babies born earlier and earlier and we have even seen babies born and survive younger than the limit on abortion. I dont care what the situation is unless its a threat to a persons life then there really isnt a reason.
#5
magicbeans
and regarding my view on it, you shouldn't be aborting kids unless theres a risk to mother/mother's been raped etc.
so its not like i 100% agreed with the pregnant woman either

I dont even think if they have been raped they should be allowed, its an awful awful situation i prob couldn't possibly understand fully, but i think the only time is if it is a risk to the life of the mother ,and then it has to be a high risk.
banned#6
I am absolutely disgusted and against youtube loading another video after the one I selected to view ends.
banned#7
Live and let live.
9 Likes #8
Personally, I believe that each individual woman, regardless of circumstance, should have the right to decide for herself if abortion is appropriate or not for her situation.

The anti abortionists should mind their own business and leave others alone, they're likely having a hard and stressful enough time as it is without being demonised for doing what they believe is right.
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It's a very difficult decision to discuss this subject on the rights and wrongs. My mum who has gone through this herself, did have a abortion, did she want to, no, but her situation at the time was a very different story. She was with her ex boyfriend at the time and in her 40s the reason she had a abortion was because when she had me and my siblings when she was in her 20s she was nearly paralysed due to the births and struggled for a very long time with her health. Her ex boyfriend knew her past situation and worries but wasn't showing that he would have been their with her to support her and the baby, and she felt she had no choice but to have an abortion, she was extremely worried and certain she would be paralysed and thus not be able to care for the baby. She and her ex boyfriend didn't tell me or my siblings until after the procedure, she told me she broke down into tears when she was at the clinic and didn't want to go through it, but the nurses and doctors quickly got her into the room and next minute she knows she was waking up lying on a bed.


haritori
magicbeans
and regarding my view on it, you shouldn't be aborting kids unless theres a risk to mother/mother's been raped etc.
so its not like i 100% agreed with the pregnant woman either

I dont even think if they have been raped they should be allowed, its an awful awful situation i prob couldn't possibly understand fully, but i think the only time is if it is a risk to the life of the mother ,and then it has to be a high risk.

With what you have written here about raped. When my mum was with my 'dad' he raped her constantly throughout their marriage, mainly every weekend after he had a lot of drinks. My mum must have gotten pregnant by rape and had me and my siblings, but if she had aborted us, I wouldn't have blamed her to be honest. Surely seeing the child and being reminded of the nightmare must be the worse thing day after day, and surely resentment would happen to the child. Luckily my mum loves us dearly, but I could understand the situation if it was the other way round, and don't think it would be fair on the child to have to live a life knowing that the mum sees the person who raped her, and not her child.
I hope what I have written comes across to what I mean, it's a difficult situation, difficult subject, one that you don't wish to happen or have to even think about,
#10
Isn't abortion just another method of contraception now, meaning people might not bother with condoms or the pill and if they get pregnant just abort.
#11
just1990
It's a very difficult decision to discuss this subject on the rights and wrongs. My mum who has gone through this herself, did have a abortion, did she want to, no, but her situation at the time was a very different story. She was with her ex boyfriend at the time and in her 40s the reason she had a abortion was because when she had me and my siblings when she was in her 20s she was nearly paralysed due to the births and struggled for a very long time with her health. Her ex boyfriend knew her past situation and worries but wasn't showing that he would have been their with her to support her and the baby, and she felt she had no choice but to have an abortion, she was extremely worried and certain she would be paralysed and thus not be able to care for the baby. She and her ex boyfriend didn't tell me or my siblings until after the procedure, she told me she broke down into tears when she was at the clinic and didn't want to go through it, but the nurses and doctors quickly got her into the room and next minute she knows she was waking up lying on a bed.
haritori
magicbeans
and regarding my view on it, you shouldn't be aborting kids unless theres a risk to mother/mother's been raped etc.
so its not like i 100% agreed with the pregnant woman either
I dont even think if they have been raped they should be allowed, its an awful awful situation i prob couldn't possibly understand fully, but i think the only time is if it is a risk to the life of the mother ,and then it has to be a high risk.
With what you have written here about raped. When my mum was with my 'dad' he raped her constantly throughout their marriage, mainly every weekend after he had a lot of drinks. My mum must have gotten pregnant by rape and had me and my siblings, but if she had aborted us, I wouldn't have blamed her to be honest. Surely seeing the child and being reminded of the nightmare must be the worse thing day after day, and surely resentment would happen to the child. Luckily my mum loves us dearly, but I could understand the situation if it was the other way round, and don't think it would be fair on the child to have to live a life knowing that the mum sees the person who raped her, and not her child.
I hope what I have written comes across to what I mean, it's a difficult situation, difficult subject, one that you don't wish to happen or have to even think about,

Its certainly is a massively difficult subject, and i did not mean to offend anyone, its my person opinion and like i say prob a ignorant one, one i prob cannot understand unless i had been through it, but i suppose lots of things are like that, and one experience can change a whole person's out look on everything..

And while it is my opinion i am certainly not going to preach to others about it.
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If it's the right decision for you, who is anyone else to judge? It's not against the law and I don't think people should be filmed going in.
There's enough unwanted children in this world
3 Likes #13
They all have their own reasons for having abortions, Every person is unique and although I don't believe you should simply be having unprotected sex then go off to the clinic that's morally wrong. It must be a very traumatic experience for 99% of the women who go, It's one of the hardest decisions someone can make, Even worse if they've been abused/raped etc.. Something they will probably have to remember for the rest of their lives.

It's too easy to be judgemental not knowing the facts.
1 Like #14
just1990
It's a very difficult decision to discuss this subject on the rights and wrongs. My mum who has gone through this herself, did have a abortion, did she want to, no, but her situation at the time was a very different story. She was with her ex boyfriend at the time and in her 40s the reason she had a abortion was because when she had me and my siblings when she was in her 20s she was nearly paralysed due to the births and struggled for a very long time with her health. Her ex boyfriend knew her past situation and worries but wasn't showing that he would have been their with her to support her and the baby, and she felt she had no choice but to have an abortion, she was extremely worried and certain she would be paralysed and thus not be able to care for the baby. She and her ex boyfriend didn't tell me or my siblings until after the procedure, she told me she broke down into tears when she was at the clinic and didn't want to go through it, but the nurses and doctors quickly got her into the room and next minute she knows she was waking up lying on a bed.


haritori
magicbeans
and regarding my view on it, you shouldn't be aborting kids unless theres a risk to mother/mother's been raped etc.
so its not like i 100% agreed with the pregnant woman either

I dont even think if they have been raped they should be allowed, its an awful awful situation i prob couldn't possibly understand fully, but i think the only time is if it is a risk to the life of the mother ,and then it has to be a high risk.

With what you have written here about raped. When my mum was with my 'dad' he raped her constantly throughout their marriage, mainly every weekend after he had a lot of drinks. My mum must have gotten pregnant by rape and had me and my siblings, but if she had aborted us, I wouldn't have blamed her to be honest. Surely seeing the child and being reminded of the nightmare must be the worse thing day after day, and surely resentment would happen to the child. Luckily my mum loves us dearly, but I could understand the situation if it was the other way round, and don't think it would be fair on the child to have to live a life knowing that the mum sees the person who raped her, and not her child.
I hope what I have written comes across to what I mean, it's a difficult situation, difficult subject, one that you don't wish to happen or have to even think about,

oO Wow, I feel sad reading this. I really feel for your mum, Justy. :(

My opinion is that both male and female have different views on abortion. Sometimes men don't understand why women would want to abort a baby, but men don't have to carry the baby for nine months. They don't have to suffer the physical and mental burden of childbirth etc.

If I was repeatedly raped by a boyfriend or husband, and then gotten pregnant because of those rapes, would I abort the baby? Most likely not, because I'd imagine I would still love my boyfriend/husband, and I would love and cherish that child no matter how he/she was conceived. However, saying that, if I was raped by a total stranger, would I abort the child? Most likely yes, because I would not want the constant mental reminder of the incident - like Justy had said. :(

So, it does depend on the circumstances. We all want this world to be peaceful and loving, and all human beings to be all nice to each other, but sadly life is not how we want it. I'm lucky that I have loving parents, and hopefully, I'll find a loving husband as well. :)
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Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.
1 Like #16
haritori
just1990
It's a very difficult decision to discuss this subject on the rights and wrongs. My mum who has gone through this herself, did have a abortion, did she want to, no, but her situation at the time was a very different story. She was with her ex boyfriend at the time and in her 40s the reason she had a abortion was because when she had me and my siblings when she was in her 20s she was nearly paralysed due to the births and struggled for a very long time with her health. Her ex boyfriend knew her past situation and worries but wasn't showing that he would have been their with her to support her and the baby, and she felt she had no choice but to have an abortion, she was extremely worried and certain she would be paralysed and thus not be able to care for the baby. She and her ex boyfriend didn't tell me or my siblings until after the procedure, she told me she broke down into tears when she was at the clinic and didn't want to go through it, but the nurses and doctors quickly got her into the room and next minute she knows she was waking up lying on a bed.
haritori
magicbeans
and regarding my view on it, you shouldn't be aborting kids unless theres a risk to mother/mother's been raped etc.
so its not like i 100% agreed with the pregnant woman either
I dont even think if they have been raped they should be allowed, its an awful awful situation i prob couldn't possibly understand fully, but i think the only time is if it is a risk to the life of the mother ,and then it has to be a high risk.
With what you have written here about raped. When my mum was with my 'dad' he raped her constantly throughout their marriage, mainly every weekend after he had a lot of drinks. My mum must have gotten pregnant by rape and had me and my siblings, but if she had aborted us, I wouldn't have blamed her to be honest. Surely seeing the child and being reminded of the nightmare must be the worse thing day after day, and surely resentment would happen to the child. Luckily my mum loves us dearly, but I could understand the situation if it was the other way round, and don't think it would be fair on the child to have to live a life knowing that the mum sees the person who raped her, and not her child.
I hope what I have written comes across to what I mean, it's a difficult situation, difficult subject, one that you don't wish to happen or have to even think about,

Its certainly is a massively difficult subject, and i did not mean to offend anyone, its my person opinion and like i say prob a ignorant one, one i prob cannot understand unless i had been through it, but i suppose lots of things are like that, and one experience can change a whole person's out look on everything..

And while it is my opinion i am certainly not going to preach to others about it.

You mean, preach anymore...
#17
118luke
Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.

Too true. I've known some real despicable people who have treated their own parents like dirt. These people shouldn't have been born in the first place. :(
banned 1 Like #18
Shouldnt the father get a say in this?

Women never consider and give the father his rights.
#19
kjcoolcat
haritori
just1990
It's a very difficult decision to discuss this subject on the rights and wrongs. My mum who has gone through this herself, did have a abortion, did she want to, no, but her situation at the time was a very different story. She was with her ex boyfriend at the time and in her 40s the reason she had a abortion was because when she had me and my siblings when she was in her 20s she was nearly paralysed due to the births and struggled for a very long time with her health. Her ex boyfriend knew her past situation and worries but wasn't showing that he would have been their with her to support her and the baby, and she felt she had no choice but to have an abortion, she was extremely worried and certain she would be paralysed and thus not be able to care for the baby. She and her ex boyfriend didn't tell me or my siblings until after the procedure, she told me she broke down into tears when she was at the clinic and didn't want to go through it, but the nurses and doctors quickly got her into the room and next minute she knows she was waking up lying on a bed.
haritori
magicbeans
and regarding my view on it, you shouldn't be aborting kids unless theres a risk to mother/mother's been raped etc.
so its not like i 100% agreed with the pregnant woman either
I dont even think if they have been raped they should be allowed, its an awful awful situation i prob couldn't possibly understand fully, but i think the only time is if it is a risk to the life of the mother ,and then it has to be a high risk.
With what you have written here about raped. When my mum was with my 'dad' he raped her constantly throughout their marriage, mainly every weekend after he had a lot of drinks. My mum must have gotten pregnant by rape and had me and my siblings, but if she had aborted us, I wouldn't have blamed her to be honest. Surely seeing the child and being reminded of the nightmare must be the worse thing day after day, and surely resentment would happen to the child. Luckily my mum loves us dearly, but I could understand the situation if it was the other way round, and don't think it would be fair on the child to have to live a life knowing that the mum sees the person who raped her, and not her child.
I hope what I have written comes across to what I mean, it's a difficult situation, difficult subject, one that you don't wish to happen or have to even think about,
Its certainly is a massively difficult subject, and i did not mean to offend anyone, its my person opinion and like i say prob a ignorant one, one i prob cannot understand unless i had been through it, but i suppose lots of things are like that, and one experience can change a whole person's out look on everything..
And while it is my opinion i am certainly not going to preach to others about it.
You mean, preach anymore...

Well I didnt force my opinion on anyone to begin with, I just said it.
#20
feifei
118luke
Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.

Too true. I've known some real despicable people who have treated their own parents like dirt. These people shouldn't have been born in the first place. :(


Eh?
1 Like #21
maxim24
Shouldnt the father get a say in this?

Women never consider and give the father his rights.
What if the father is a rapist? Too many different scenarios and views to ever get people to agree on this subject.
It really is a hard one and as long as it's not people going out getting drunk and having abortions without a care then I respect anyone's opinion/decision.

This is too deep for me, I'm off for some cheap beans and xbox one bundles..
#22
sofia_the_last
If it's the right decision for you, who is anyone else to judge? It's not against the law and I don't think people should be filmed going in.
There's enough unwanted children in this world

My thoughts exactly - as the woman in the video said, would they rather women give birth then dump their child in a bin/toilet or at worst kill them.

There should be some other rules in place to prevent it bring abused, but that's no different to the women/crackheads that pop kids out, then get them taken away by social services - these poor souls have their life ruined from the start
#23
rdtorres
feifei
118luke
Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.

Too true. I've known some real despicable people who have treated their own parents like dirt. These people shouldn't have been born in the first place. :(


Eh?

I've known someone (and heard of others) who treat their parents really bad. They would physically and verbally abuse them just for the sake of it, but most of the time it's money related. They would hurt their parents for money. It's really sad because the parents still love their children, but in a society where money is king, those people just do not care about familial ties anymore. :(
#24
This is a topic that you will never get a full agreement with everyone at once.
For me if my partner at anytime decided that a pregnancy be terminated it would be her decision after we'd discussed the reasons and consequences. Nature has its own means of abortion, when things are wrong. However it doesn't take every factor into account.

A woman carries half of her child from the second her own ovaries develop in her own mothers womb, right through to either fertilisation, menstration or her own death. A mans half lasts a few weeks at best and is a much shorter term involvement.

It's a woman's choice but there should be rational decisions to support it. These are my own opinions and while I share them, people can choose to agree or disagree, that is also their own choice. The planet has 7billion people on it, in the grand scheme of things the children here need the care first, life isn't theoretical of what could or would have been, it's a fact that must be maintained everyday.
1 Like #25
feifei
rdtorres
feifei
118luke
Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.

Too true. I've known some real despicable people who have treated their own parents like dirt. These people shouldn't have been born in the first place. :(


Eh?

I've known someone (and heard of others) who treat their parents really bad. They would physically and verbally abuse them just for the sake of it, but most of the time it's money related. They would hurt their parents for money. It's really sad because the parents still love their children, but in a society where money is king, those people just do not care about familial ties anymore. :(

Then somewhere down the line that's likely to be the parents fault...
3 Likes #26
I'm not against abortion where a woman has been raped for example. I just feel uncomfortable that it has for some women just become another method of contraception.
2 Likes #27
EN1GMA
I'm not against abortion where a woman has been raped for example. I just feel uncomfortable that it has for some women just become another method of contraception.

Agreed, but i am 99% sure that the kind of women that do that are not the ones who should deserve to be parents
#28
I can agree that any woman that treats abortion as a form of contraception should be dragged back into the real world.

What I cannot agree on is that a fetus is considered a 'life' as early as 10 weeks. I would say closer to 20 weeks you could consider a fetus as a life.

As for these idiots protesting, the pro-life brigade all need to be locked up.
1 Like #29
kjcoolcat
feifei
rdtorres
feifei
118luke
Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.

Too true. I've known some real despicable people who have treated their own parents like dirt. These people shouldn't have been born in the first place. :(


Eh?

I've known someone (and heard of others) who treat their parents really bad. They would physically and verbally abuse them just for the sake of it, but most of the time it's money related. They would hurt their parents for money. It's really sad because the parents still love their children, but in a society where money is king, those people just do not care about familial ties anymore. :(

Then somewhere down the line that's likely to be the parents fault...

How so? The parents have worked hard all their life. They scrimped and saved. It's not their fault that their son during his teenage years got involved with triads. It's not their fault however much they try to get him to study and become a useful person, that he doesn't listen and think it's cool to hang around with the bad guys. How is it their fault that if they don't give him money, he would verbally and physically abuse them? Call the police? Social services? He's their son. They don't want him to be arrested. It's already bad that he's in with the triads. There are simply people who are bad, no matter the upbringing.
banned 1 Like #30
maxim24
Shouldnt the father get a say in this?

Women never consider and give the father his rights.

Thats a sweeping statement, Im sure many couples go through abortion together.
banned#31
bazzamone
maxim24
Shouldnt the father get a say in this?

Women never consider and give the father his rights.

Thats a sweeping statement, Im sure many couples go through abortion together.

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banned 1 Like #32
I never agreed with abortion then I started looking at people and thinking maybe it should of happened.

You cant really have a law no abortion unless the pregnancy is from abuse/rape, as all you would get is people just saying they were raped when they werent just so they could have the abortion.

I do think 24 weeks is horrendous and abortion shouldn't be allowed at that point, if its allowed it should be in a shorter space of time
1 Like #33
feifei
kjcoolcat
feifei
rdtorres
feifei
118luke
Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.

Too true. I've known some real despicable people who have treated their own parents like dirt. These people shouldn't have been born in the first place. :(


Eh?

I've known someone (and heard of others) who treat their parents really bad. They would physically and verbally abuse them just for the sake of it, but most of the time it's money related. They would hurt their parents for money. It's really sad because the parents still love their children, but in a society where money is king, those people just do not care about familial ties anymore. :(

Then somewhere down the line that's likely to be the parents fault...

How so? The parents have worked hard all their life. They scrimped and saved. It's not their fault that their son during his teenage years got involved with triads. It's not their fault however much they try to get him to study and become a useful person, that he doesn't listen and think it's cool to hang around with the bad guys. How is it their fault that if they don't give him money, he would verbally and physically abuse them? Call the police? Social services? He's their son. They don't want him to be arrested. It's already bad that he's in with the triads. There are simply people who are bad, no matter the upbringing.

They don't want him to be arrested.

I rest my case
banned#34
They don't want him to be arrested.

Weak parents. Should clean the toilet with his toothbrush for giggles.
#35
kjcoolcat
feifei
kjcoolcat
feifei
rdtorres
feifei
118luke
Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.

Too true. I've known some real despicable people who have treated their own parents like dirt. These people shouldn't have been born in the first place. :(


Eh?

I've known someone (and heard of others) who treat their parents really bad. They would physically and verbally abuse them just for the sake of it, but most of the time it's money related. They would hurt their parents for money. It's really sad because the parents still love their children, but in a society where money is king, those people just do not care about familial ties anymore. :(

Then somewhere down the line that's likely to be the parents fault...

How so? The parents have worked hard all their life. They scrimped and saved. It's not their fault that their son during his teenage years got involved with triads. It's not their fault however much they try to get him to study and become a useful person, that he doesn't listen and think it's cool to hang around with the bad guys. How is it their fault that if they don't give him money, he would verbally and physically abuse them? Call the police? Social services? He's their son. They don't want him to be arrested. It's already bad that he's in with the triads. There are simply people who are bad, no matter the upbringing.

They don't want him to be arrested.

I rest my case

maxim24
They don't want him to be arrested.

Weak parents. Should clean the toilet with his toothbrush for giggles.

It's different over in Hong Kong than here in the UK. If someone has a criminal record, then his/her life is pretty much over. Most employers will not employ people with criminal records. That's life. :(
banned 1 Like #36
feifei
kjcoolcat
feifei
kjcoolcat
feifei
rdtorres
feifei
118luke
Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.

Too true. I've known some real despicable people who have treated their own parents like dirt. These people shouldn't have been born in the first place. :(


Eh?

I've known someone (and heard of others) who treat their parents really bad. They would physically and verbally abuse them just for the sake of it, but most of the time it's money related. They would hurt their parents for money. It's really sad because the parents still love their children, but in a society where money is king, those people just do not care about familial ties anymore. :(

Then somewhere down the line that's likely to be the parents fault...

How so? The parents have worked hard all their life. They scrimped and saved. It's not their fault that their son during his teenage years got involved with triads. It's not their fault however much they try to get him to study and become a useful person, that he doesn't listen and think it's cool to hang around with the bad guys. How is it their fault that if they don't give him money, he would verbally and physically abuse them? Call the police? Social services? He's their son. They don't want him to be arrested. It's already bad that he's in with the triads. There are simply people who are bad, no matter the upbringing.

They don't want him to be arrested.

I rest my case

maxim24
They don't want him to be arrested.

Weak parents. Should clean the toilet with his toothbrush for giggles.

It's different over in Hong Kong than here in the UK. If someone has a criminal record, then his/her life is pretty much over. Most employers will not employ people with criminal records. That's life. :(

Is that you in your display picture?

People are seriously work orientated in Hong Kong. Workaholics.
#37
It's different over in Hong Kong than here in the UK. If someone has a criminal record, then his/her life is pretty much over. Most employers will not employ people with criminal records. That's life. :(

I disagree. A bully is a bully no matter where they are from. The only way to deal with bullies is to stand up to them. His parents won't, so he will continue if there are no repercussions.. We call it tough love

So yes, it is the parents fault for allowing it
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feifei


No, it's not. If you're wondering why I use it then, it's because I look similar. :3

Hong Kong people have to work hard. Unlike the UK, there are hardly any benefits over there. If you don't work hard, where are you going to get the money? Property is very very expensive over there, but the pay is peanuts compared to the UK. Minimum pay is HK$28 per hour. That's about £2.18 per hour. oO

You walk around with a Deeky crown on oO

£2.90

Edited By: bazzamone on Dec 04, 2014 23:22
banned#39
feifei
maxim24
feifei
kjcoolcat
feifei
kjcoolcat
feifei
rdtorres
feifei
118luke
Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.

Too true. I've known some real despicable people who have treated their own parents like dirt. These people shouldn't have been born in the first place. :(


Eh?

I've known someone (and heard of others) who treat their parents really bad. They would physically and verbally abuse them just for the sake of it, but most of the time it's money related. They would hurt their parents for money. It's really sad because the parents still love their children, but in a society where money is king, those people just do not care about familial ties anymore. :(

Then somewhere down the line that's likely to be the parents fault...

How so? The parents have worked hard all their life. They scrimped and saved. It's not their fault that their son during his teenage years got involved with triads. It's not their fault however much they try to get him to study and become a useful person, that he doesn't listen and think it's cool to hang around with the bad guys. How is it their fault that if they don't give him money, he would verbally and physically abuse them? Call the police? Social services? He's their son. They don't want him to be arrested. It's already bad that he's in with the triads. There are simply people who are bad, no matter the upbringing.

They don't want him to be arrested.

I rest my case

maxim24
They don't want him to be arrested.

Weak parents. Should clean the toilet with his toothbrush for giggles.

It's different over in Hong Kong than here in the UK. If someone has a criminal record, then his/her life is pretty much over. Most employers will not employ people with criminal records. That's life. :(

Is that you in your display picture?

People are seriously work orientated in Hong Kong. Workaholics.

No, it's not. If you're wondering why I use it then, it's because I look similar. :3

Hong Kong people have to work hard. Unlike the UK, there are hardly any benefits over there. If you don't work hard, where are you going to get the money? Property is very very expensive over there, but the pay is peanuts compared to the UK. Minimum pay is HK$28 per hour. That's about £2.18 per hour. oO

She is beautiful.

I studied Hong Kong from an economic perspective some time back. An interesting place, alongside Shenzhen.

I know £2.18 seems low, but economies are different and while house prices may be expensive, it is relatively proportional to the standards of normal living.
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bazzamone
feifei
maxim24
feifei
kjcoolcat
feifei
kjcoolcat
feifei
rdtorres
feifei
118luke
Im going to sound very controversial here and i know the majority will disagree with my opinion so i apologize in advance (but please at least have the respect that it is an opinion and it may even anger some...) - but I just dont see the big deal over abortion. Its an unfinished product (just like a sperm and an egg are both half a baby in themselves) and if the woman doesn't want a baby i dont see why she should be forced to have it. The world is overpopulated (like it or not) and, while im not trying to put anyone off trying for a baby - abortion does a little bit to help stop the population increasing even more.

Sorry for sounding quite cold, i just dont see the value of human life quite the same as many. For every baby aborted, there will be several more conceived and born.

Too true. I've known some real despicable people who have treated their own parents like dirt. These people shouldn't have been born in the first place. :(


Eh?

I've known someone (and heard of others) who treat their parents really bad. They would physically and verbally abuse them just for the sake of it, but most of the time it's money related. They would hurt their parents for money. It's really sad because the parents still love their children, but in a society where money is king, those people just do not care about familial ties anymore. :(

Then somewhere down the line that's likely to be the parents fault...

How so? The parents have worked hard all their life. They scrimped and saved. It's not their fault that their son during his teenage years got involved with triads. It's not their fault however much they try to get him to study and become a useful person, that he doesn't listen and think it's cool to hang around with the bad guys. How is it their fault that if they don't give him money, he would verbally and physically abuse them? Call the police? Social services? He's their son. They don't want him to be arrested. It's already bad that he's in with the triads. There are simply people who are bad, no matter the upbringing.

They don't want him to be arrested.

I rest my case

maxim24
They don't want him to be arrested.

Weak parents. Should clean the toilet with his toothbrush for giggles.

It's different over in Hong Kong than here in the UK. If someone has a criminal record, then his/her life is pretty much over. Most employers will not employ people with criminal records. That's life. :(

Is that you in your display picture?

People are seriously work orientated in Hong Kong. Workaholics.

No, it's not. If you're wondering why I use it then, it's because I look similar. :3

Hong Kong people have to work hard. Unlike the UK, there are hardly any benefits over there. If you don't work hard, where are you going to get the money? Property is very very expensive over there, but the pay is peanuts compared to the UK. Minimum pay is HK$28 per hour. That's about £2.18 per hour. oO

You walk around with a Deeky crown on oO

Yeah, bazza. I walk around town with a crown that says Deeky for VIP. People often stop me and ask who's the hell is Deeky, and I tell them it's this dude from hukd. They then shake their heads and mutter to themselves saying I'm mad. :|

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