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ps3 1080p 0r 720p?

kaiser051 Avatar
7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
hi just a quick one just wondered what people think about whether its worth forcing 720p ps3 games to play on a 1080p lcd?,

after returning my 1080p lcd back to the store as i only have 2 ps3 games that can run at 1080p and all the others are 720p.

i didnt think it was such a problem downscaling,where my 1080p games looked fine quite a few of my 720p games looked awfull,constant flickering,blinking etc, ive been told this is normal when u play some 720p games on a 1080p set even though i set my ps3 to output 720p

i am now in the hunt for a new lcd and would really prefer a 1080p set as its future proof etc but as the majority of ps3 games are in 720p would this be a waste of time? also would i see any real difference on a 37 inch if it was 1080p? any feedback would be apreciated thanks.
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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
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#1
Size matters!

On a 37", difference prob won't be really staggering or noticeable.

42" plus - maybe . . . .
#2
Although few PS3 games are 1080p, it's worth bearing in mind that most 1080p blu-rays are. I've not noticed any problems running a PS3 at 1080p for games, never had any issues.

John
#3
Should have gotten one of those sharp 42"" LC42X20E @ the hut b4 they sold out.

My ps3 looks and plays fine @1080p on my older LC-42XD1E

so I assume the newer LC42X20E I ordered will also be ok at 1080p on ps3 and xbox 360

The LC42X20E will be availabel to buy somewhere else but maybe not at the price I paid. I would pay upto £699 for the LC42X20E my LC42XD1E cost me £1189
#4
thing is im a big game user and rarely watch blu rays the model i was looking at is TOSHIBA 37XV555DB which is 1080p,id love to get a 1080p but the fact that my last 1080p lg displayed some native 720p games really badly makes me hesitant

so when u play 720p games on ur 1080p tv u just select 720p on ur ps3 settings and they look fine? with no framerate issues? this seems to be a tv issue i think some 1080p sets downscale better than others
#5
kaiser051;4102962
thing is im a big game user and rarely watch blu rays the model i was looking at is TOSHIBA 37XV555DB which is 1080p,id love to get a 1080p but the fact that my last 1080p lg displayed some native 720p games really badly makes me hesitant

so when u play 720p games on ur 1080p tv u just select 720p on ur ps3 settings and they look fine? with no framerate issues? this seems to be a tv issue i think some 1080p sets downscale better than others


The PS3 hooked up to the 1080p set is always set to 1080p, on a Samsung LE40M86 I've never had any issues.

John
#6
i had far cry 2 and resistance 2 playing on my 1080p with 720p selected on the ps3 setting and they looked awfull,

i plugged my ps3 into my 720p lcd and they were fine ,maybe i just had a dodgy tv or something i just dont want to get a 1080p and then when i get the games that ive beeen looking forward to for months like resident evil and killzone 2 which are more likely to be in 720p i find that they look bad on my 1080p set
#7
leave ya ps3 set to 1080p on a 1080p tv
#8
thats a good price but 42 inch is too big for me 37 would be my limit with my room size,

seen the thread below somewhere else wondered if thers any truth in it?

Any digital LCD monitor or TV that is Full HD and has a native resolution of 1080p will always do a stretch to play games as 720p. If the Monitor or TV is 16:9 aspect ratio, the stretching won't be so strong but you will still notice it, since when they are not at their native resolutions there is always a bit loss of quality. Some TV and LCD monitors do this resize better then others, but you can never get the best quality if the native resolution is not the same as the game.

This is pretty bad since many people want 1080p monitors or televisions in order to watch BR movies, but they will always suffer from quality loss in games optimized for 720p. Of course, when games are 1080p ( wipeout is a nice example), they will look extraordinary. Unfortunatly there are not many 1080p games out at the moment.

So basically, at this moment, people with a HD READY tv, (1280*720 resolution) will get the most quality from videogames, although won't be able to fully experience games like wipeout, but since most of the games coming out are 720p, I think it is really the best choice to get an HD READY TV/Monitor.
#9
If you output your PS3 at 720 onto a 1080 TV the TV will have to scale it, so as said by numerous people above, set your PS3 to 1080P and let the PS3 do the scaling.
#10
yeah i did try that but i had still had issues with 720p games flickering and jagged edges maybe i had a faulty tv but dont understand why certain 720 games i had gta4 dead space burnout etc looked fine while others like far cry 2,drakes fortune,lost,looked terrible
#11
after returning my 1080p lcd back to the store as i only have 2 ps3 games that can run at 1080p and all the others are 720p.


Now that's what I call putting the cart before the horse :?
#12
haah yeah i know but when you buy a new tv u want it to last a few years before you have to upgrade again and thats why i wanted a 1080p sort of future proofing so i didnt have to buy another in 2 years time
#13
some one told me sony lcds are the best for ps3? makes sense is it true ?
#14
I got a beautiful 32" Sony Bravia which displays '1080p' - no probs with any flickering.

I was playing Drakes Fortune this morning(which displays at 720p), had no problems whatsoever.

Admittedely my Bravia did cost me £600 (earlier this year) as it was the Sony range-topper.

It's having a wonderful marriage with my PS3 :lol:
#15
yeah ive heard that their a match made in heaven what model did u get? a few friends have told me to geta bravia as they are the best for ps3 compatibility,think il have to wait a while for one to come down in price the only bravia 37 icn i can find is around the 800 mark way out my budget
#16
kaiser051
yeah ive heard that their a match made in heaven what model did u get?


I got the KDL-32D3000

Great review here: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL32D3000/Conclusion.php

Still holds it's price pretty well cos it's a pretty set too:

http://www.dixons.co.uk/product/500/FO/673564.jpg

3 HDMI 'n all the trimmings :thumbsup:
#17
robtallica
I got the KDL-32D3000

Great review here: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL32D3000/Conclusion.php

Still holds it's price pretty well cos it's a pretty set too:

http://www.dixons.co.uk/product/500/FO/673564.jpg

3 HDMI 'n all the trimmings :thumbsup:


Always the same bloody thing on though.
#18
robtallica;4107828
I got the KDL-32D3000

Great review here: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL32D3000/Conclusion.php

Still holds it's price pretty well cos it's a pretty set too:



3 HDMI 'n all the trimmings :thumbsup:


That's a 720p panel though, the thread is asking about a 1080p TV.

John
#19
kaiser051;4107474
yeah i did try that but i had still had issues with 720p games flickering and jagged edges maybe i had a faulty tv but dont understand why certain 720 games i had gta4 dead space burnout etc looked fine while others like far cry 2,drakes fortune,lost,looked terrible


You're going to see the jagged edges regardless of TV, this is due to aliasing which occurs at lower resolutions (like 720p) when no anti-aliasing is enabled.

John
#20
Johnmcl7
That's a 720p panel though, the thread is asking about a 1080p TV.

John


I mentioned I had a Sony Bravia, OP asked me:

yeah ive heard that their a match made in heaven what model did u get?


So I answered.

Rob.
#21
They've already mentioned they have no issues with 720p on a 720p panel, the problem is running 720p on a 1080p panel hence it's reasonable to assume that he was looking for experience of this on a Sony TV.

John
#22
ive seen two reviews of this tv now one says its 1080p one says its not?

so it is purely on what game u play? if the developers have allowed anti aliasing in their game or not ? thats why some games are fine and some are not?
#23
iv ejust come across this from pixmania is it a decent model and are pixmania reliable?
1080p 37 inch sony bravia
http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/1646578/art/sony/bravia-kdl-37v4000-lcd-te.html

SONY BRAVIA KDL-37V4000 LCD Television

TV & VIDEO > Televisions > LCD TVs
37 inch (94 cm) 16/9, "Full HD" Freeview, HDMI x3
Sony BRAVIA KDL-37V4000 LCD Television

£ 499.99 Inc. VAT
#25
ive seen two reviews of this tv now one says its 1080p one says its not?

so it is purely on what game u play? if the developers have allowed anti aliasing in their game or not ? thats why some games are fine and some are not?


-----------------

Review:

A rather more interesting trick of the HDMIs is their ability to take in 1080p/24fps feeds output from one or two HD disc players, such as Pioneer’s BDP-LX70 Blu-ray deck and Sony’s own new BDP-S1E. Most films are mastered onto HD discs using the 1080p/24fps format, so the thinking behind a TV also being able to receive this format is the increased possibility for a cleaner final picture, as there’s less need for fancy scanning-rate processing. To further this end, the 32D3000 features a proprietary ‘24p True Cinema’ system that doesn’t require the TV to process the picture up to the usual 25fps (for PAL).

We’re not done with the HDMIs talents yet, either. For we’re mighty pleased to report that they’re HDMI 1.3 compliant, enabling such extra tricks as auto lip synching and compatibility with the ‘Deep Colour’ enhanced colour palette system (should any HD discs start to be mastered with Deep Colour onboard).


All I know is: it says '720p' when displaying a 720p source ie. Drakes Fortune PS3 game.

it says '1080p' when displaying a 1080p source video game or Dark Knight Blu-ray for eg.
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kaiser051;4107941
ive seen two reviews of this tv now one says its 1080p one says its not?

so it is purely on what game u play? if the developers have allowed anti aliasing in their game or not ? thats why some games are fine and some are not?


It is a 720p panel as it has a 1366x768 resolution - it will take a 1080p input but it's downsampled to 720p, hence some sites list it as 1080p and some as 720p. This is why I mentioned above that it's not a 1080p TV as this is not clear.

Anti-aliasing is a per game feature which is the choice of the developer to enable or not, this feature lowers the framerate (as does increasing a native 720p game to 1080p) which in many cases will drop the framerate too low hence it isn't enabled. I don't think many PS3 (or Xbox360) games use any extensive AA but I haven't seen any figures on it.

John
#27
Anti-aliasing is a per game feature which is the choice of the developer to enable or not

i undestand it now after reading that,thats why certain 720p games looked fine on 1080p while others suffered.i found far cry 2 almost unplayable

and since 98% of ps3 games are 720p i guess theres no need to get a 1080p set if you intend to use it mainly for ps3 gaming?
1 Like #28
kaiser051
Anti-aliasing is a per game feature which is the choice of the developer to enable or not

i undestand it now after reading that,thats why certain 720p games looked fine on 1080p while others suffered.i found far cry 2 almost unplayable

and since 98% of ps3 games are 720p i guess theres no need to get a 1080p set if you intend to use it mainly for ps3 gaming?


As long as what you buy is cheap do not pay over the odds for 720p

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