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PS3 SLIM YLOD? is it fixed or should i buy Wii

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as title, have been saving for either ps3 slim, or wii, would prefer ps3 if can get deal, but have sony fixed the ylod problem do people think. If not would prefer to go with wii as cheaper and coul… Read More
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7y, 9m agoPosted 7 years, 9 months ago
as title, have been saving for either ps3 slim, or wii, would prefer ps3 if can get deal, but have sony fixed the ylod problem do people think.
If not would prefer to go with wii as cheaper and couldnt afford to replace ps3 year down the line after collecting games etc. opinions please. thx.
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7y, 9m agoPosted 7 years, 9 months ago
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#1
but have sony fixed the ylod problem do people think.


It is a tiny problem, and what do you think anyone here knows about Sony's production of PS3's in the last few weeks?
#2
thesaint
It is a tiny problem, and what do you think anyone here knows about Sony's production of PS3's in the last few weeks?


you never know what people know here, can but ask. many read reviews and watch shows and the internet, so may well have good idea. many gadget men here thankfully for muppet like me.

if was tiny problem wouldnt be on watchdog.
#3
128plant
you never know what people know here, can but ask. many read reviews and watch shows and the internet, so may well have good idea. many gadget men here thankfully for muppet like me.


No one knows, not even Sony! How can a review state whether a PS3 released 4 weeks ago tell you whether it will last 1,2,3 etc years?

128plant


if was tiny problem wouldnt be on watchdog.


Shock "Watchdog" plays to the audience.
How big is this problem for it to be featured on watchdog?
#4
thesaint
No one knows, not even Sony! How can a review state whether a PS3 released 4 weeks ago tell you whether it will last 1,2,3 etc years?



Shock "Watchdog" plays to the audience.
How big is this problem for it to be featured on watchdog?


may play to audience perhaps but still a problem, loads say on here too. so its worth wondering if this is just the same parts slipped in to the smaller box or did they fix the problem. if its just the same then chances are its gonna act the same. dont want to waste my money if can avoid. i was just hoping that someone techy has read the blurb etc or have one and knows if its dif enuff to be a safe bet. no harm in asking.
#5
massmail666
+1


saints arent supposed to be so negative. lol
#6
128plant
may play to audience perhaps but still a problem, loads say on here too. so its worth wondering if this is just the same parts slipped in to the smaller box or did they fix the problem. if its just the same then chances are its gonna act the same. dont want to waste my money if can avoid. i was just hoping that someone techy has read the blurb etc or have one and knows if its dif enuff to be a safe bet. no harm in asking.


How could they fit the same parts into a smaller box?

I'll leave you to it.
1 Like #7
There's currently no evidence that the yellow light failure on the PS3 is an inherent fault with the design so there's no problem to fix in a sense - all the PS3's (as with most electronics) use the same type of soldering which can break in this way. Currently I don't think any retailers have published any data on this type of failure (as they have enough numbers to give a respresentative number), it still appears to be limited type of failure.

The PS3 slim isn't the same part squeezed into a smaller case, it uses a new version of the Cell processor (this is now the third one, second was used in the 40GB model) which uses less power and produces less heat hence it can fit in a smaller case. However technically it's still possible the PS3 slim will suffer this failure just as any device can with this type of manufacture including the Xbox 360, a PC's dedicated graphics card etc.

I think the decision between a PS3 and a Wii is odd because they are both very different consoles, I think it would be a waste of money to buy a Wii if it's a PS3 you really want but decide against it for potential reliability issues especially as the Wii isn't immune either. Complex electronics don't tend to be as reliable as something simple, there's always the option of taking an extended warranty if you want some reassurance.

John
#8
i understand a bit better now. i like the blu ray idea of the ps3. the kids dont mind which one. but the are more into fps games, and wii seems more a sporty type system. thats why i thought maybe the ps3 might be better.

didnt know the wii could have problems too so thats good to know.

i was hoping some feedback would make my choice easier. i think the jury is out.
#9
thesaint
How could they fit the same parts into a smaller box?

I'll leave you to it.


i could do it but wouldnt work, saint, lol

its like cars just rejig many of the parts and add a few smaller ones, so not really new just reworkd. sorry not very techy.
#10
dcx_badass
FPS is awesome on the Wii, you actually aim at stuff instead of a horrible fiddly joystick.


any danger of them smashing my tv. they arent the most gentle? their ps2 takes some hammering.

they are quake pc game kids so really want the action. i have only seen tennis and footie type things on wii which didnt float my boat.
1 Like #11
dcx_badass;6474991
FPS is awesome on the Wii


u mad?

and I did have a Wii for 6 months, it just seemed a terrible gimmick tbh
#12
128plant
i could do it but wouldnt work, saint, lol

its like cars just rejig many of the parts and add a few smaller ones, so not really new just reworkd. sorry not very techy.


It's nothing like cars - as technology improves, new generations of silicon can be physically smaller, using less power and generate less heat as well as cost less. This is how companies can make far more complex processors or graphics cards while still keeping within the same thermal limit. To give you an idea how much they've change, the ATI Rage graphics card released in 1998 had a transistor count of eight million whereas their newest graphics card the 5870 packs in an incredible 2.15 billion transistors. This allows the companies to put more 'parts' on the processor, Intel's newest processor has several chips that used to be on the motherboard now part of the processor and they're planning on integrated a graphics card.

In the case of the PS3, as they're not changing the processor instead of clocking it faster or adding more to it they can simply make it smaller and take advantage of the reduced heat and power to reduce the size of the PS3.

John
#13
phatboy123
u mad?

and I did a Wii for 6 months, it just seemed a terrible gimmick tbh


I'd tend to agree, I don't think the Wii is a good console for FPS games particularly as its online play isn't great. The precision and speed of the Wiimote isn't great and after playing for a while it just feels like the waving around of the Wiimote is a gimmick especially as developers frequently implement pointless features using the Wiimote. I always thought Metroid with the Wiimote would be superb given the rubbish controls for the first two games really spoiling a pair of excellent titles but I just find the controls get irritating.

John
#14
yes i was wondering if it would be annoying after a short while. they wouldnt be playing online with it, resort to the pc for that. dont like the idea of paying for points or whatever they are for the pleasure.
thanks for all your input folks. still dithering. maybe should have a vote, lol.
#15
Johnmcl7
It's nothing like cars - as technology improves, new generations of silicon can be physically smaller, using less power and generate less heat as well as cost less. This is how companies can make far more complex processors or graphics cards while still keeping within the same thermal limit. To give you an idea how much they've change, the ATI Rage graphics card released in 1998 had a transistor count of eight million whereas their newest graphics card the 5870 packs in an incredible 2.15 billion transistors. This allows the companies to put more 'parts' on the processor, Intel's newest processor has several chips that used to be on the motherboard now part of the processor and they're planning on integrated a graphics card.

In the case of the PS3, as they're not changing the processor instead of clocking it faster or adding more to it they can simply make it smaller and take advantage of the reduced heat and power to reduce the size of the PS3.

John


thanks john, never released thats what it meant, wow how fast this technology is moving is incredible. thx for ur info.
#16
128plant;6479874
thanks john, never released thats what it meant, wow how fast this technology is moving is incredible. thx for ur info.

It's just to give you an idea how technology changes - you're quite right to ask the question because if they were simply packing the existing PS3 hardware into a smaller package then that's something genuinely to be concerned about. As it stands though with it being a new machine it's going to be impossible to gauge longterm reliability unfortunately.

John
#17
128plant
yes i was wondering if it would be annoying after a short while. they wouldnt be playing online with it, resort to the pc for that. dont like the idea of paying for points or whatever they are for the pleasure.
thanks for all your input folks. still dithering. maybe should have a vote, lol.


you don't pay for online play on a Wii.
#18
thesaint
you don't pay for online play on a Wii.


see am techy thick, didnt know that. cheers getting wiser by the minute. hard this playing catchup. doesnt help when live in back of beyond. lol
#19
Johnmcl7
It's just to give you an idea how technology changes - you're quite right to ask the question because if they were simply packing the existing PS3 hardware into a smaller package then that's something genuinely to be concerned about. As it stands though with it being a new machine it's going to be impossible to gauge longterm reliability unfortunately.

John


thanks john, you have helped me sort this out in my head, confuses me almost as much as mobile contracts and thats my next hurdle. honestly not user friendly.
#20
dcx_badass
Go for a wii, a PS3 is just a PS2 with prettier graphics and a bluray player (which in turn is just a PS1 with prettier graphics and a dvd player), a wii actually brings something new to gaming.


Boredom.

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