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JimmyW Avatar
8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
Does anyone have strong views either way on this subject?

The reason I ask is because my mum went to one of these shows tonight and came home convinced the medium had communicated with her deceased mum (my gran, of course) she, like me, was a complete sceptic until a couple of years ago when her friend convinced my mum to go along with her to a private reading and I have to admit, even I was baffled by what she had said, but thats for another day.

Basically what she said happened tonight was the medium did the whole "almost saying my name but not quite" thing, saying Shirley, Sherry (my mums name is Sheryl) but she didn't say anything so the medium moved on.....and then came back and said "no wait, it's not that, it's Sheryl - and she has ties to TOM and DEVON" well my brother is called Tom and my grandparents lived in Devon their whole lives and my mum grew up there. She then said how my gran really loves her etc and says thanks for the memorial bench, she really appreciated it (my mum got her a memorial bench on the seafront where she lived when she died as they owned shops in the village and were known to everyone so she wanted something for all her friends)

To be honest, I've very sceptical on this subject but the best I could come up with was they knew her name as she ordered the tickets with the seat number, and maybe there were people in the queue posing as others going to the show collecting snippets of info, but she insists she didn't speak to anyone the whole night apart from her friend.

opinions either way?
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banned#1
personally think its a load of rubbish


my mum went to one before I was born....apparently I was gonna be twin girls....

Male...only child....that worked out well
#2
Perhaps she was a little off and was picking up on the fact you'd meet twin girls? you never know :whistling:
#3
If you check out Darren Brown I think that's his name he had his own TV show and has written a few good books basically showing him acting as a medium etc and then exposing how he did it.

Another reason that it's def a no no is that I was into all that stuff and it was quite addictive. They hit enough truths to keep you going back and you become desperate to hear stuff you think you need to know that you switch off all the other wrong stuff or bend it to mean something to you. A bit like reading your horoscopes in the papers. Whether you believe this or not the Bible states their are familiar spirits that roam the earth knowing all your families history. These mediums call them spiritual guides not know they are in fact demons. Steer well clear please. It is forbidden for your own good believe me. If that doesn't convince you from one who was rescued from that destructive path please get your Mum the book which exposes it and how easy it is to deceive. It might be Derren Brown on second thougts all I recall is his first name was spelt different to Daren. Save your Mum some pain beyond words and gently, lovingly show her the truth behind their falsehood
#4
A lot of psychics are actually frauds which really brings down the whole industry but my mum is also a clairvoyant and until she gave me my first reading......I actually assumed she was a fraud.

Now I always get a reading before I make a life changing decision and she always gets all the important stuff right and practically all the minor details too.

My mum has also done readings for other psychics who then become repeat customers and to be honest, my Mum wouldn;t have a loyal customer base spanning over 30 years if she didn't get her facts straight and she's not exactly cheap either but you get what you pay for. :thumbsup:

P.S my reading a few months ago prompted me into making another life changing decision and I know it'll have a positive effect on everyone involved and even though there will be some hard times, I know it will be worth it.
#5
I believe and often go to see Steve Holbrook and go to a local group but there are a lot of scammers out there.
#6
i think that theres no harm in getting comfort from it even if it is a lie.

i went to see a meduium to give me some peace of mind about my son, came away with some peace of mind about my future with my partner instead but 20pounds is a small price for some comfort. does it really matter if it a load of lies as long as ypur mum feels some comfort from it?
#7
I believe in some, i know that there are a hell of alot of fraudsters out there. Many of them have people waiting outside in the crowds, who phish for information, or just listen in, hoping some one says somthing like.... 'i hope our jimmy comes through'.

I do not agree with alleged psycics charging though, at the end of the day, they have a gift, and what the spirits give can quite easily be taken away. I think that mediums who charge are more likely than not fraudsters.
#8
I think they are sick individuals who prey on people's fear and sadness.

They pretend to help, but they should be beaten with pointy sticks for using someone's greif and sadness for their own benefit.

Has any medium/psychic ever proven in any way that they can do what they claim?
#9
Has any medium/psychic ever proven in any way that they can do what they claim?


yes but many still think its a set up but i have seen more proof of this than i have of god.
#10
dmccabe
I think they are sick individuals who prey on people's fear and sadness.

They pretend to help, but they should be beaten with pointy sticks for using someone's greif and sadness for their own benefit.

Has any medium/psychic ever proven in any way that they can do what they claim?


gave me a little comfort when i needed it, if she was making it all up then i dont care as long as i never find out that she was making it up. i needed that at the time and thats the simple truth:whistling:
#11
realfriendlyman
A lot of psychics are actually frauds which really brings down the whole industry but [SIZE="3"]my mum[/SIZE] is also a clairvoyant and until she gave me my first reading......I actually assumed she was a fraud.

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wow did she get loads of personal things about you correct???? :?


dmccabe

Has any medium/psychic ever proven in any way that they can do what they claim?


No, james randi has been offering 1 million dollars to anyone who can show him any paranormal ability, no one has claimed it yet, everyone who has applied so far has had their 'skill' fail on them.
banned#12
is anyone else thinking Clinton Baptiste?



'I'm getting the word Non.....'
#13
tis a load of rubbish, con artists i feel sorry for your mum if she believed that they contacted a deceased relative, i think ppl take the film "ghost" a tad too seriously.
#14
many of them do cold readings, reading body language and the like. there are some genuine mediums out there. There are long family lines of it, never met a true medium who was the first in their family to pocess 'the gift'
#15
Is Derren Brown a medium? to be honest, I think he's great and always just considered him a very good illusionist. Didn't realise he had a book about exposing it all, would love to read that. I still remain very sceptical though, even if I don't have answers for a lot of the things they come out with.
#16
Whether or not they are frauds, do NOT part with money!

(Or I predict that you will become poorer & poorer:whistling:)
#17
mummyspam1985
i think that theres no harm in getting comfort from it even if it is a lie.

i went to see a meduium to give me some peace of mind about my son, came away with some peace of mind about my future with my partner instead but 20pounds is a small price for some comfort. does it really matter if it a load of lies as long as ypur mum feels some comfort from it?


Wow, please feel free to send me £20 & Ill tell you anything you want to hear. I have a certificate in errrrr, ummmmm think quickly "spiritual expressionism" its proper & everything, its even got an embossed logo and its signed, so it must be true. :-D
#18
JimmyW
Is Derren Brown a medium? to be honest, I think he's great and always just considered him a very good illusionist. Didn't realise he had a book about exposing it all, would love to read that. I still remain very sceptical though, even if I don't have answers for a lot of the things they come out with.


Nope, he's not, he used his methoed of cold reading to proove his theory about many mediums being fraudsters
#19
kungfu
wow did she get loads of personal things about you correct???? :?




No, james randi has been offering 1 million dollars to anyone who can show him any paranormal ability, no one has claimed it yet, everyone who has applied so far has had their 'skill' fail on them.


Errrm, She got loads of information about myself correct that are complete secrets.
I'm not very close with my mum but she knew stuff no one else did and my Mum has never proclaimed she is god, she has loads of repeat customers performing readings and she never guesses but only states the facts.

My mum will normally be able to get the finest detail correct with anyone, without knowing anything about them and practically all of her customers don't give any hints.

Anyway, I don't particularly care if anyone believes it or not, as it's not my business and I know there's a lot of scammers out there that's completely ruined the industry and a lot of the way it's portrayed on tv is completely fake and is clearly performed for entertainment purposes.

I did actually offer to pay for my friends reading before, as he believed my mum was a fake and he actually became a repeat customer, which says a lot.

Anyway, most of the people on this forum are idiots, who have nothing better to do with their lives other than spread incorrect rumours about people they apparantly they care about, play pranks and even stalk them and those people can go to hell and I sincerely hope they get a life but stay out of mine.
#20
as long as people believe what is right for them then no harm done and being conned out of money happens in all industries.

I got my proof it was a secret only i knew but unless you get personal proof you can't truley believe.
#21
kungfu
wow did she get loads of personal things about you correct???? :?




No, james randi has been offering 1 million dollars to anyone who can show him any paranormal ability, no one has claimed it yet, everyone who has applied so far has had their 'skill' fail on them.


i watched that bloke, the baby whisperer was on it.
#22
Big_Bad_Nige
LOL, industry ? Surely youv'e just shot yourself in the foot there mate, "industry" suggests a service undertaken purely for profit......


Errrrm.........do you work for a living purely for profit?

I don't care how nice a person is, there is hardly anyone in the entire world that would devote there entire lives to helping/working for free of charge as you should ask your landlord if they would accept niceness as a form of payment cos I haven't seen any retailers accepting that type of credit card.

Do you work for free or better yet....can you name just 5 people you personally know that does on a full time basis?
#23
Big_Bad_Nige
Wow, please feel free to send me £20 & Ill tell you anything you want to hear. I have a certificate in errrrr, ummmmm think quickly "spiritual expressionism" its proper & everything, its even got an embossed logo and its signed, so it must be true. :-D


like i say, does it matter if its true? it gave me comfort when i needed it, havent been since so not like i adddicted. the lady was nice to talk too. didnt say everything i was hoping for but said other things. yeah loads of it was rubbish but i chose to ignore them parts for my own benefits. she probably was a fraud but i dont care:p
#24
Big_Bad_Nige
Think you miss the point my easily led friend, ahh to be so guilible must be refreshing, wanna buy some magic beans ? Honestly they really do work, my mum told me so, hehehe

But you are right on one point, I dont work for free - I get paid and on that note I'd better crack on, or I too will be forced to open a BUSINESS conning simple people out of their hard earned wages.


You're not the smartest thing in the world are you?

By your logic, you're "conning" your employers because they're paying you to work and not reply to posts on a forum.

My mum has never forced anyone to become a repeat customer, as they do it on there own accord and has been offered a lucrative tv slot in the past, which she rejected because she deems that as an insult to her profession.

I know you're already thinking of the next stupid response, which will be "what's the matter, scared she'll be foundout" but I'll save you the trouble......the psychics on tv are purely entertainers and have no interest in helping people.....it's impossible to do a reading within minutes and guess work is not acceptable for true pros, as they try and guess something that'll be relavant to 90% of the population.

I would actually suggest I'm willing to pay for someone's psychic reading on here if they would report what was said and if it's turned out to be true but most of the people on this site are pessimistic f**kers that are unhappy with their own lives and there's just too many liars on this forum.

Can I ask what you do for a living?
#25
repeat customers? omg are people really that lame?
#26
realfriendlyman
Can I ask what you do for a living?


LOL, ask your mum.....

Sorry mate, Im just in an argumentative/sarcastic mood this afternoon - didnt mean to offend or upset anyone.

I wil fess up, my mum claims to be a "healer" as well, into her crystals and ****, lol grow up mum. :oops:
#27
repeat customers? omg are people really that lame?


Just because you don't believe doesn't mean its not real and i dont see the need to be rude about people.
#28
realfriendlyman
A lot of psychics are actually frauds which really brings down the whole industry but my mum is also a clairvoyant and until she gave me my first reading......I actually assumed she was a fraud.

Now I always get a reading before I make a life changing decision and she always gets all the important stuff right and practically all the minor details too.

My mum has also done readings for other psychics who then become repeat customers and to be honest, my Mum wouldn;t have a loyal customer base spanning over 30 years if she didn't get her facts straight and she's not exactly cheap either but you get what you pay for. :thumbsup:

P.S my reading a few months ago prompted me into making another life changing decision and I know it'll have a positive effect on everyone involved and even though there will be some hard times, I know it will be worth it.


She could have told you not to punch walls...
#29
realfriendlyman


Anyway, most of the people on this forum are idiots, who have nothing better to do with their lives other than spread incorrect rumours about people they apparantly they care about, play pranks and even stalk them and those people can go to hell and I sincerely hope they get a life but stay out of mine.



Who punched a brick wall recently? :whistling:
#30
bazzaric
She could have told you not to punch walls...


Believe it or not, she did tell me to stop contact with my ex altogether because the situation will escalate and it will cause me pain and suffering topped with regrets.

She said as an absolute max, I would be with her for another 6 months, which was just before we flew out to meet her astranged father in Jamaica and this was about 4 months ago but she would find it difficult to let me go and become more and more attached to me the longer we're together and will not let go of me without a fight.

She mentioned that her father is rich but not as wealthy as he's making out and he will try to pursuade us in moving out there and offered his wealth as a bargaining tool to keep us there when he passes, as he doesn't have long left but would also discuss marriage with her daughter.

There's also some more but it's a bit more personal than the rest of the stuff mentioned, as if that wasn't personal enough but they've already come true or well on the way as we speak.

RESULTS AT PRESENT:
Strangely enough, within days of arriving in Jamaica, he told us he paid someone to find my ex because he has an illness which could kill him at any moment and he wants to offer all his assets (but he has no money) to my ex, even though he has other children.

He said he liked me and asked if we're considering marriage and if I could see myself living in Jamaica, as we would have 4-5 million pounds worth of assets and businesses (mansions....notice the plural :p farms, hotels, bakery and take away restaurants) to look after but he wouldn't give it to us if we had any intentions of selling it.

Oh and as some people know, I only kept in contact with her because her son was like my own as well as one of my best friends and last Saturday was the last time I'll ever see either of them because of the arguement we had, which lead to breaking my hand.

We actually broke up a couple months ago but I continued to visit because of her son and I wanted to remain on a platonic level with her too but she continuously mentioned that she still loves me and begged me to promise that I would never leave her and even the day after this recent arguement occured, she was talking about getting back together until I told her I never want to see her again.

Anyway, now some of you know some of this juicy gossip, I hope no one will spread any lies about it because it's clear for everyone to see, so there's no reason to twist it.
Also, I think this said a lot about how good a quality psychic can be but I don't care if anyone believes it or not, as I'm not divulging any information or her contact details, so it's not like I'm looking for potential clients.
#31
kungfu
Who punched a brick wall recently? :whistling:


You would of in the same scenario, as I've told dozens of people the story and they've told me I should of walked away but can more than understand my frustration.
#32
Mate , in one post youre moaning about stalkers and prank players, yet a few posts later your posting intimate details of your personal life for millions of people to see :?

Oh and calling 'most' people on this forum idiots is harsh and loses u respect from me , lame.
#33
kungfu
Mate , in one post youre moaning about stalkers and prank players, yet a few posts later your posting intimate details of your personal life for millions of people to see :?

Oh and calling 'most' people on this forum idiots is harsh and loses u respect from me , lame.


As if the gossips and stalkers haven't already discussed it enough.......they know it all anyway....just remember there's a lot of people on these forums that you can't trust......which is a shame because some of them were deemed as friends.

Some of them think it's funny to prank you about deep s**t, some make stuff up and twist it, whereas if you're lucky, some will just gossip.

I've got a sour taste in my mouth regarding these forums now and fail to see what happened to all the good members from back in the day.....I guess most of them just left because this place turned into nothing but bored people looking for some excitement in the form of arguements and backstabbing.

P.S most people might of been a slight exaggeration but a lot of them are idiots and I'm sure quite a few of them are reading this now and know what's sparked this off.
#34
Load of tosh
#35
JayBird
Load of tosh



I used to think that - I saw someone a reading party and she was saying the same thing to each of us. The same lines, questions etc, obviously a fraud.

Since then a reading was done that involved me via just a picture, this person had never met me or spoken to me and she got a hell of a lot of things right, things she could never have known about me and my family.
#36
fireheaven
Since then a reading was done that involved me via just a picture, this person had never met me or spoken to me and she got a hell of a lot of things right, things she could never have known about me and my family.


Probably just reading YOU.

Why has nothing substatial been proven in scientific tests.

I beleive in science, not some hippy nutter
#37
JayBird
Probably just reading YOU.

Why has nothing substatial been proven in scientific tests.

I beleive in science, not some hippy nutter



But how would she know my partner's attitude, personality etc from just a pic of me

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs
#38
fireheaven
But how would she know my partner's attitude, personality etc from just a pic of me

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs


Lucky guess....how many people have they read that were wrong?
#39
i do believe in some mediums, and a good medium isn't jusged as someone who can tell you something only you know. A really good medium will tell you somthing that you dont know, and you have to ask a reletive if this is true.

My mum is clarevoyant and clareaudient, she sees peoples auras and the like, but she would never in a million years dream of charging somebody if she recived a message for them.
#40
After seeing some of the so called psychics on tv, I have to admit, I was sceptical, but then I heard about one fairly local that was apparantly really good. So out of curiosity I went along and what she said, there's no way she could have known and it wasn't wishy washy either, it was spot on graphic details about how a family member was killed in a car accident, the type of injury he sustained and how he died instantly.

There was no way she could have known this as she didn't have my full name and no one I knew had been to see her before, and being sceptical, I made sure that I didn't give anything away as I was fully aware that a lot of so called psychics fish for info. So after that, I do believe there are some genuine ones out there, but the ones on tv certainly aren't !!

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