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Public Transport, what a joke and a ripoff???

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9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
I would love to use public transport however I've justed check out some options...

I've moving to Cornwall and would like to use public transport back to my companies office in the midlands...perhaps once a month

The train comes in at £180 for a return and the time taken is over 6-8 hours with 3 changes

By Air is cheaper at around £80 return but I can only fly to Manchester but even so takes nearly 4 hours in total

and coach is the cheapest but takes nearly 10 hours

I then ask, why do we use our cars so much and the answer is that its cheaper, I can go when I want, usually it is cleaner and I dont get mugged (or hopefully dont) and it take only 4.5 hours.

I;ve even checked out other destinations other than from Cornwal and the prices are terrible....I can see why people live in Europe and commute to the UK, far cheaper than commuting around the UK

I have 1 stop, £80 in fuel and a journey time of 4.5 hours - public transport has a long way to go to beat that i'm afraid - even with motorway closures it still comes in better for my pocket.

Those in favour of public transport as the cleaner greener way please take note, I want to use greener ways to get from a to b, but if what I hear in the press and this senario is anything to go by then sorry but the CAR wins hands down
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9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
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#1
Have you tried either Megatrain

Or Megabus

You can travel from £1 with either!
banned#2
i agree so what the government then do is raise the cost of having a car by increasing car tax and petrol prices, but what they should actually do is decrease the cost of public transport.
#3
You think thats bad, as an apprentice I used to go to work on site in Buxton everyday (before i drove)

I had to get up at 5:30 each morning to get there for 9, too 2 trains and a tram as well as walking 4-5 miles, then had to do the same on the way home.

Total distance by car from Rochdale to buxton, 36 miles.... laughable!
#4
Buxton is not the easiest of places to get to, even by car.
#5
stora
Buxton is not the easiest of places to get to


Well, the water makes it there okay :whistling:
#6
MBeeching
Well, the water makes it there okay :whistling:


Ask my wife about that. I once took Buxton bottled water to Buxton on a day trip.
Didn't even realise you can get it for free in the town. :whistling:
banned#7
540 miles, £80 return in a car.....what you driving a Hybrid? Thats over 70 mpg!!! Keep in mind you have to include cost of tax, insurance, MOT, wear and tear, maintenance, and servicing into the cost of running a car.


However, I agree the convenience is what we pay for.
#8
It would be good, if! because you had a car you could get cheaper public transport. That way we might leave our cars at home? rather than us thinking about all the money we have to pay already in insurance, tax & petrol. Then we have to pay the normal public transport rate on top which is not encouraging us to leave the cars at home (more the reason not too).

I would love to use public transport but cant pay all my car bills just to leave my car at home, if on the other hand i got a reduced rate I could maybe mix my journeys more.

sorry bout the rambling
banned#9
How about the government just realise that the car is the most efficient method of transport and stop hindering us with high stealth taxes. The thing that gets me about fuel is the double tax. We pay 'fuel duty' of about 65p per litre, and then pay 'VAT' on that fuel duty!
#10
I can do without a car if public transport was reliable,but its not so we going get a car soon,partner starting driving lessons tomorrow,we've had enough of having to be somewhere important and on time,not just generally going somewhere for a little trip out or shopping etc and train is delayed,there always some excuse.Buses are not much cheaper than trains really,unless you going some fair distance like across half your county or more.
#11
Public transport is only viable on longer journeys. On short haul to town, it's far cheaper to use the car. A damning endictment on this govt that nothing has been achieved to make PT more attractive to the public. It is simply too inefficient and unreliable, and expensive, to be of any use. I'll be keeping my car until I can safely rely on PT to get me from A-B without costing an arm and a leg.
#12
Try paying for public transport in Central London. Now that is what i call a ripoff lol. My parents used to tell me how they would pay 20p for the bus back in the day. Usually i didnt take notice of their words but with the price now!!!
#13
Public transport is only viable on longer journeys. On short haul to town, it's far cheaper to use the car.


Unless you live in london like me of course, where Public transport is pretty efficient and is relatively cheap too.
[helper]#14
The thing is though do cars have a long term future? In 30 or 40 years time what will the supply (and price) of oil be like?

I'm sure I read somewhere that a couple of years ago we had used more than half of the worlds estimated oil and the remaining half was more difficult to pump and in more inaccessible places (eg deeper water).

Biofuel isn't likely to be an option.

So unless electric cars become far more practical or someone comes up with a different idea - whats our society going to be like without cars?

It would mean a massive cultural change, almost total dependence on public transport, impacting on jobs, housing, retail - everything.

Or will they just find more reserves and develop more efficient engines?
#15
Simon_G
Unless you live in london like me of course, where Public transport is pretty efficient and is relatively cheap too.


Because it is heavily subsidised via congestion charging. Unfortunately, most brits live outside of London :-(
#16
Because it is heavily subsidised via congestion charging. Unfortunately, most brits live outside of London


Cant agree with that I am afraid. Was always affordable before congestion charging, and nothing really seems to have changed since it was introduced to be fair.
#17
my oyster card trips seem to have got cheaper! so im not gonna complain :)
#18
Oyster is cheaper and cash is more expensive. I have an Oyster card, I wouldn't pay more to pay cash.
#19
Scribbles
Oyster is cheaper and cash is more expensive. I have an Oyster card, I wouldn't pay more to pay cash.


yep

i pay 90p now for a trip with oyster

£2.00 a go cash - a big difference
#20
It is cheaper via Oyster but it is also slightly annoying too. Lets say you forgot your oyster card one night, you have to pay more than double.
#21
I've never forgot my oyster card. In fact its the third thing that goes in my pocket when i am going out, after the packet of ciggies and lighter of course, then my keys are a distant 4th :)
#22
Simon_G
Unless you live in london like me of course, where Public transport is pretty efficient and is relatively cheap too.


Cheap I pay over £150 a month for my travelcard cheap and reliable are not 2 words I would use with the london underground.
#23
UltimoScorpion
540 miles, £80 return in a car.....what you driving a Hybrid? Thats over 70 mpg!!! Keep in mind you have to include cost of tax, insurance, MOT, wear and tear, maintenance, and servicing into the cost of running a car.


However, I agree the convenience is what we pay for.


Yes but I have to pay that anyhow, and nowadays my insurance is no different if I use it for 1 mile or 10000!!!

I have a volvo v50 2.0 diesel sport...I put in £39-£43 for a full tank and have approx 100 miles left in the tank, top up by £35 and it gets me home again

This is usually fully loaded, only have about 60 miles left if I have my surfboard and believe me we dont drive at 56mph!!

Free servicing for 3 years, maintenance apart from tyres, as most get done in your service - not bad and one of the best cars I've ever had and believe me I have a few had BMW's Saabs Chrysler vokswagens citreon the list goes on, absolutely the best car to date

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