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5y, 9m agoPosted 5 years, 9 months ago
i'm considering (but not yet committing to) buying a desktop pc, my laptop is annoying me because it won't run the games i want it to run (nothing crazy, things like left4dead, portal and borderlands) and it takes ages to render things in gimp and i'd quite like to work with hd video without waiting ages after each mouseclick

i'm mainly interested in an i5 processor and some suitable (but not bank balance destroying) dedicated graphics. hdd size doesn't bother me. whatever OS comes with the desktop will be immediately erased and replaced with linux and xp (i just prefer it and it will run the games i want) dualbooted so that is of no interest to me

my questions are as follows:

is it always cheaper to 'build your own' desktop pc?

is this a good deal or could it be easily beaten if i bought the parts and put them together: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/pc/range/iconquer.html - with no OS (i like novatech because there's one near me so if anything goes wrong i can go and shout at someone)

is it always best to go for a 'gaming' desktop? i always just assumed these were like normal desktops but with better graphics. will it use crazy amounts of electricity as a result of its 'gaming' features?

thanks for reading
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5y, 9m agoPosted 5 years, 9 months ago
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#1
USUALLY it is better to go with your own build if you are going for a gaming PC, however if you are not after high end you could potentially buy cheap and add GFX.

If cost is an issue, dont go with the i5 go with an i3 and a mid range gfx card.
#2
i'd considered the i3 but i thought if i get the better one it won't get outdated as fast

i wouldn't want to spend any more than the £600 (not including monitor)

Edited By: gav989 on Feb 20, 2011 18:12
#3
gav989
i'd considered the i3 but i thought if i get the better one it won't get outdated as fast

i wouldn't want to spend any more than the £600 (not including monitor)


I am running a C2D bottom of the original releases for the C2D series e6300.
With an x1900 gfx card which is now over 5 years old and will comfortably run (and does on my setup) those games, so the i3 would suit you just fine.

Im not planning on upgrading anytime soon :P
#4
i had a look through some websites at the components i'd need to build my own system and i found this lot, it looks ok to me but thought i'd post so you could criticise it

thanks for the help and advice Jetpac but i read some reviews and i'm thinking i5 would be a worthy investment and it's only about £50 more expensive than the i3



graphics: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagtx460fermiseries/Novatech/NOV-GTX461.jsp

hdd: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/246034

processor: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172755

keyboard (red buttons!): http://www.ebuyer.com/product/202779

case: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/165238

dvdrw: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145450

psu: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135514

ram: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002D11C6U/ref=nosim/?tag=hotukdeals-21

motherboard: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189292

monitor: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-SyncMaster-B2230H-widescreen-monitor/dp/B0038P9AUU/ref=sr_1_6?m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1298233227&sr=1-6
#5
Graphics are WAY over the top for what you want/need with gaming, What video stuff are you doing?
You can pick up a HDD twice the size for a fraction more than that (they pop up on here all the time)

you could potentially get a larger monitor for around that same price. I have a Fujitsu 23 and my brother has a benQ 24 both purchased around that price and they are both fantastic

Personally i would go with a cheaper case (mine was half the price of yours) but thats personal tastes.

everything else looks good.
#6
ok i'll look into downgrading the graphics. video editing and image editing, nothing too serious but wanted to be able to play hd video easily, perhaps multiple hd streams playing at the same time, i picked that graphics card because it got quite hot on here a couple of days ago

i'm a samsung fanboy unfortunately so i'm quite up for that one but i'm just trying to get a rough idea, i'll research everything properly before i purchase. again thanks for your help
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I would go for a 6 core AMD if your looking at the i5, which is as fast as the best i5s and low to mid range i7s depending on what one you get, and also cheaper
#8
according to my limited understanding of such things i don't think i can use the amd processor with an an nvidia graphics card and i don't want to use ati graphics because linux drivers for nvidia are far superior, thanks for the suggestion though



ok this graphics card is about half the price: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagt440fermiseries/novatech/nov-gt440.html

looks like it will do the job for me, will have a look at hdds now

Edited By: gav989 on Feb 20, 2011 22:32: added gfx
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gav989
according to my limited understanding of such things i don't think i can use the amd processor with an an nvidia graphics card and i don't want to use ati graphics because linux drivers for nvidia are far superior, thanks for the suggestion thoughok this graphics card is about half the price:http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagt440fermiseries/novatech/nov-gt440.htmllooks like it will do the job for me, will have a look at hdds now

I am sitting here on ubuntu with an AMD CPU and ATI Graphic card now and works great, but tbh i dont know how good they are compared to the nvidia drivers, i have played a few games in linux but use XP or windows 7 for the bigger games as less hassle and works better then playing games in linux.
Also you can use Nvidia cards just as well as ATI cards on a Intel or AMD CPU so you know :) Where did your limited understanding come from? as Intel & AMD CPUs are completely compatible with Nvidia & ATI GPUs in any type of order



Edited By: Chuckles1001 on Feb 20, 2011 22:42
#10
i've just never seen them together before, it's always amd+ati or intel+nvidia when deals are posted on here. i also found loads of debates on the internet about nvidia vs amd so i assumed they were rivals and therefore incompatible

i don't play many games in linux either but i do like to have every compiz-fusion effect i can...i'm just annoying like that. also sabayon (linux) is the os i use for everything that isn't games so it's where i do all my video/image editing etc. i've also used intel all my life and never really encountered amd/ati so it's probably just the alien nature of that technology that scares me, but i'l bear it in mind
#11
yeah i'd considered that but i read somewhere that there is an issue with them at the moment which put me off them (even when the issue if fixed, i don't like bleeding edge technology, i like something that's been tried and tested for a good year or so). are they significantly better than the original i5s? i'm looking at the quadcore i5 so i assumed it would be similar

as for budget there isn't really one, i'd like it to be as low as possible, i've been tweaking the hardware and finding cheaper prices and i have it down to £655.87 including monitor now which i'm quite pleased with


Edited By: gav989 on Feb 20, 2011 23:36
#12
hmm i suppose i could wait til april, is only a month and a bit away. i'll sleep on it. do you know if they'll be more expensive than the ones currently available? i don't see why they would be but just in case you'd heard something i missed...


edit: having read up on it (wikipedia..) it does seem to be worth waiting a month and 10 days, damn. thanks for the help

Edited By: gav989 on Feb 20, 2011 23:58: adding more
#13
according to ebuyer:

There is NO issue with Sandybridge Processors, only P67 and H67 Motherboards are potentially affected.


is this what you thought too?
#14
ok cool, only other question i have is whether i should buy everything but the motherboard now or wait a month and buy it all at the same time, seems to be good prices at the moment, especially that ram
#15
ok thanks, i'll wait til march/april before i do anything about it then, thanks a lot for your help

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