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Questions about HTC Desire and tariffs

EmSixTeen Avatar
6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
In desperate need of some help from people who actually have some knowledge here!

Really, really, looking to get a new phone. One of those overwhelming urges to get either an iPhone or an HTC Desire. The iPhone is great and all, but the 4G will be out in a few months, is more expensive, and the Desire is already here.

I've never really had much experience with an iPhone and haven't touched a Desire yet, but from videos online it seems like the Desire is loveliness. So, I've been searching around to see the cheapest I can get it for. I'm a real sucker for spending far too much time searching the internet without really getting anywhere. I'm REALLY cautious about being tied into a contract. I've had my O2 PAYG SIM nearing on 10 years and am only paying £15 to get my O2 unlimited every month (and a bit), so shy of £180 per year.

I want to be able to use the internet pretty freely with my phone, and use social networking services as much as I want/need. I want unlimited txts. Calls don't matter much, I'm pretty short on the calls anyway. I need to keep my same number.

4 best deals I've seen:
First 3 are here, don't understand why one has 100 extra minutes: http://wubb.me/temp/htcdesire.png (screenshot because I can't link that page)

1. Orange
- 24 months
- £30p/m
- 400mins any time any network
- Unlimited txts any network
- 'Unlimited' internet (750mb according to Google)
- £50 quidco cashback
- Total: £670

2. Orange
- 24 months
- £30p/m
- 500mins any time any network,
- Unlimited txts any network
- 'Unlimited' internet (750mb according to Google)
- £50 quidco cashback
- Total: £670

3. Vodaphone
- 24 months
- £30p/m
- 600mins but don't know if it's any network
- Unlimited txts but don't know if it's any network
- 500mb internet
- £150 quidco cashback
- Total: £570

4. Orange - http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/plans/planDetails.jsp?pagefrom=&id=sku330022
- 24 months
- £30p/m (Dolphin tariff)
- 800 minutes (any network?)
- Unlimited txts (any network?)
- 500mb internet
- £130 quidco cashback
- Total: £590

So, going direct through the network's sites seem cheapest, but are they best? Is the cheapest necessarily going to be the best? The Orange Wednesday benefits are nice.. Don't know of any benefits on Vodafone. Ideally I'd rather stay on O2 but alas that doesn't seem like it's gonna happen, though I need to keep my same number. Should I just stick with my current dumbphone on PAYG and save myself a lot of money?! Help will be so appreciated.

tl;dr - I need the best deal for an HTC Desire with unlimited internet and as short a contract as possible. Please help a confused and indecisive lad. :(
EmSixTeen Avatar
6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
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#1
Any news on the Desire coming to O2? If it is, it might be worth holding out.
#2
Not that I know!

I forgot to mention that I'm worried about my Desire becoming super out of date in 6 months time, considering how fast Android is being developed.. So I'd like it, well, ASAP if I do get it.
#3
Just to let you know after speaking to an orange customer service person said that as i was on a dolphin 25 service that means unlimited and not 500mb i got her to confirm this 3 times to make sure.
#4
archer1204
Just to let you know after speaking to an orange customer service person said that as i was on a dolphin 25 service that means unlimited and not 500mb i got her to confirm this 3 times to make sure.

That's really odd as the website clearly state on the different pages for Dolphin that it's 500mb - Though obviously unlimited is much preferred!

As for O2, had a look on their site but it says coming in April.. eh? It's half way through April, O2. Their forums say 29th April, from people phoning and asking.
#5
EmSixTeen
Not that I know!

I forgot to mention that I'm worried about my Desire becoming super out of date in 6 months time, considering how fast Android is being developed.. So I'd like it, well, ASAP if I do get it.


Chances are it will be out of date.
#6
MarzBarz
Chances are it will be out of date.

eh I don't mind a bit out of date, as long as it does what it does well and gets occasional updates.

On Orange's Dolphin tariff, are txts/calls any network, yes?
#8

Hmm, that looks great, simply an improvement over the 24 months one. Less cashback but that doesn't matter if it's cheaper. Really tempted for that.
#9
EmSixTeen
Not that I know!

I forgot to mention that I'm worried about my Desire becoming super out of date in 6 months time, considering how fast Android is being developed.. So I'd like it, well, ASAP if I do get it.


Doubt it will become outdated that quickly. If Android is updated then you'll receive a software update either Over-The-Air (OTA) or a PC upgrade where you download to computer, connect your phone and run the update program.

The Desire has top-end hardware so it handles all current software extremely well, is going to handle the Flash update well, and probably most, if not all the (near-)future Android software updates.

Not to mention the fact that Google are aware of fragmentation of the OS versions on phones and future updates will be smaller service packs so that manufacturers can easily add in their customisations (such as HTC Sense) and launch the update. This of course is essential considering that nearly all manufacturers include a custom version of Android on their phones.

Don't worry about updates. You will get them. The Desire is an awesome piece of kit and you won't regret it! Most of the good deals are no longer available, are you not due an upgrade soon? If so you can probably get something decent via retentions.
#10
archer1204
Just to let you know after speaking to an orange customer service person said that as i was on a dolphin 25 service that means unlimited and not 500mb i got her to confirm this 3 times to make sure.


so when your bill comes and you want to argue the term "unlimited" do you think the printed t&c's will win out or your claim that the girl you spoke to said "no its not 500mb - its unlimited" :whistling:

This info is incorrect and the customer service person you spoke to is clearly wrong. Orange, like other operators, use of the word unlimited means 500mb cap sadly.

http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/plans/planDetails.jsp?pagefrom=&id=sku330026
#11
MrBrightside1987
Most of the good deals are no longer available, are you not due an upgrade soon? If so you can probably get something decent via retentions.

God, what deals did I miss? That deal linked as a deal from here actually looks better than anything else I've really seen for any smart phones, aside from that T-Mobile deal for the Desire - but I need more txts than it gives!

Thanks for the posts though guys. Think I might go to a shop tomorrow and see if I can get my mits on one to see what they're like for a minute or two.

@daBluone - What if you have the customer service operator recorded saying it?
#12
EmSixTeen
God, what deals did I miss? That deal linked as a deal from here actually looks better than anything else I've really seen for any smart phones, aside from that T-Mobile deal for the Desire - but I need more txts than it gives!

Thanks for the posts though guys. Think I might go to a shop tomorrow and see if I can get my mits on one to see what they're like for a minute or two.

@daBluone - What if you have the customer service operator recorded saying it?


Its coming to o2 in the next couple of weeks. I'm waitin on it myself...Expect it to be dearer on o2 thn on Tmob or Orange, proly = to Voda.
#13
I got a desire on vodafone, their limit is 500mb a month but they don't charge if you go over. Only if you go over a few times they are supposed to call and warn you or discuss paying for more data.

Look at this site for the desire:

http://www.buymobilephones.net/mobile-phones/HTC/HTC-Desire-Free-Line-Rental-Discount/85,35289

the prices work out to be quite low if you can be arsed with cash back by redemption.

p.s. oh yea the vodafone mins and texts are any network, well mine are anyway
#14
EmSixTeen
God, what deals did I miss? That deal linked as a deal from here actually looks better than anything else I've really seen for any smart phones, aside from that T-Mobile deal for the Desire - but I need more txts than it gives!


There was one around the Desire release date which was £164 for phone, then £10/months for 24 month giving 100 minutes, unlimited text, unlimited net. Plus if you ordered via the phone they gave £40 off the handset so the total was £364 over 24 months!

Have you checked Phones4U? They have £30/month for 18 month which is £540+35 cashback = £505 for 300 min/3000 text/Unlimited (500MB) internet.
After the 18 months if you didn't get a retentions deal you could always get a GiffGaff sim for £10/month with 100 minutes/unlimited text/unlimited net or £15 with 300 minutes.

EDIT: If you're due an Orange upgrade then have a look here for what you can expect - people paying £20/month and free phone! Just remember it's retentions and not reparations contrary to what the topic title says!

EDIT2: Just got an email from TopCashBack saying Orange are offering £140 cashback so might be worth seeing what they have on offer
#15
so when your bill comes and you want to argue the term "unlimited" do you think the printed t&c's will win out or your claim that the girl you spoke to said "no its not 500mb - its unlimited"

This info is incorrect and the customer service person you spoke to is clearly wrong. Orange, like other operators, use of the word unlimited means 500mb cap sadly.

http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phon...=&id=sku330026

Just a quick update i went back to orange customer service and they said they would send me a txt which follows as
+447973100620
Hi from orange this is to inform you are on dolph 25 plan with 300 mins unltd txts unlimtd internet email you will not be charged for internet.thank you
I only joined orange last week can anyone else confirm that if your on dolphin plan you do not get charged if you go over the 500mb limit cheers
#16
I went for

600 mins
3000 texts
unlimited internet
orange maps

£32.50 a month
18 months

Phones4u

Not the cheapest but at least your not tied in for 24 months and its still £2.50 a month less than I pay now to 02 for unlimited texts and 600 mins
#17
Ordered today.

Couldn't wait for O2 so went with Voda

600m
Unlimited Tx
Unlimited Internet
18m

£30month
#18
Bit gutted, that phones4u offer expired when I was going to get it!

Phoned up Orange just to ask about their data usage for the web on Dolphin.. The guy turned out to be pretty nice and he told me that whilst Dolphin is 'unlimited' and according to him I'd never really go over it without trying (not so sure about that), he said that Panther is much more unlimited, and that they'd simply send a letter asking to curb the usage rather than charging me if I went over.. I think he mentioned 1.5GB, not quite sure I'll ask him again as I'm still on the phone on hold! Also mentioned the £35 I'd receive if I went through quidco and he immediately said he'd give me £30 credit on my first bill rather than faffing about waiting 3 months for it to come through, also saying that he used quidco too.

So, what I seem to be getting is:
Free phone
600 minutes
Unlimited txts
Unlimited net (he says 750mb)
24 months
£30p/m, £30 credited to my first bill

Pretty much this:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/plans/planList.jsp?_requestid=102624

Only thing I'm worried about is my girlfriend having to pay for her txts now 'cos I'm not O2! Oh, and 24 months of being tied on..
#19
Have a look here, the OP and the first post sound like good deals to me.
#20
Too late! Phone's ordered! That looks pretty good though.

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