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*******************************R.I.P the 96 of Hillsborough Y.N.W.A**************************

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Our guys battle last night for the 96 of the tragedy that happen in Hillsborough. They played there hearts out last night and they fought for the familys of the 96 Our thoughts are with the fami… Read More
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
Our guys battle last night for the 96 of the tragedy that happen in Hillsborough.

They played there hearts out last night and they fought for the familys of the 96

Our thoughts are with the familys

R.I.P
Y.N.W.A
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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Likewise - this is how it all happened that terrible day - a day where most of us will remember where we were & what we were doing for the rest of our lives :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7992845.stm
#2
R.i.p
#3
shauneco
R.i.p


+1

Lets hope everyone else can show this amount of respect.
#4
God bless each and every one of them

JFT96
#5
I was listening to the radio earlier and it made me cry, they interviewed a woman that had gone to the match with her husband and two daughters on that day, she was saying how they left as a family and came back as just a couple. Both daughters were killed.

R.I.P and my heart goes out to the survivors
#6
I remember it felt like the earth had stood still that day.
Nottingham remembers http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/hillsborough/Nottingham-remembers-Hillsborough/article-900647-detail/article.html
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/images/HillsboroughMemorial_15042002_300x200.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1582/hillsboroughmemorialxh0.jpg
R.I.P xx
#7
Its such a massive tragedy that should never be forgotten. my heart goes out to all their family and freinds
RIP
#8
RIP My thoughts go to all involved i will never forget xx
#9
R.i.p
Ynwa...
#10
Very sad ,I was a mile away from the ground at the time and i remember all the ambulances and police cars and then all the people streaming away ,It was a very sad time,I still cannot believe that when the built the pens to stop pitch invasions that someone didnt see this coming,
#11
R.i.p.
#12
R.i.p
#13
Rip

Ynwa
#14
r.i.p ..such a massive tragedy ..i will never forget it...that day i was driving back from a music fair in bradford(which finished early due to the events at hillsborough) driving back home on the m62 to merseyside people stopping on the hard shoulder sobbing and crying traffic crawling ..people weeping at the wheel...very very sad day...the west yorkshire police should shoulder all the blame
#15
R.I.P. My thoughts are with the family and friends.
#16
Mr Weasle
r.i.p ..such a massive tragedy ..i will never forget it...that day i was driving back from a music fair in bradford(which finished early due to the events at hillsborough) driving back home on the m62 to merseyside people stopping on the hard shoulder sobbing and crying traffic crawling ..people weeping at the wheel...very very sad day...the west yorkshire police should shoulder all the blame


South Yorkshire police
#17
Tragic day, so clear in my mind as I worked in a pub in Nottingham and that evening as the fans returned with their own sad stories

Just look at the ages of those that died, should never have happened

RIP
#18
I have never bought the sun newspaper in my life because of what they said after this event. I was only 3 years old, almost 4 when it happend, but it's somthing that will forever be rememberd by those of us with scouse blood.

RIP and sweet dreams to all of those we lost YNWA
#19
R.I.P

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/melo1130/ROSES.jpg
#20
tonyg1962
South Yorkshire police

yep them as well cos over 80 of them were drafted in for crowd control
#21
I read an article about the Hicks family who lost their 2 teenage daughters in the tradgedy, it must be horrendous....so very very sad for all the bereaved...

R.I.P 96

from manchester
#22
Kitten13
I have never bought the sun newspaper in my life because of what they said after this event. I was only 3 years old, almost 4 when it happend, but it's somthing that will forever be rememberd by those of us with scouse blood.

RIP and sweet dreams to all of those we lost YNWA


i never made the connection with the Sun newspaper till yesterday. That disgrace still writes for them! i did notice yesterday there was little mention of this event. RIP
#23
YNWA, one day just will be done.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/splash/images/hillsboroughremembered_080409.gif
#24
leecroot
i never made the connection with the Sun newspaper till yesterday. That disgrace still writes for them! i did notice yesterday there was little mention of this event. RIP


They should hang their heads in shame as should South Yorkshire Police for their unforgiveble mistakes made that day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1bm5ldjDrk
#25
Mr Weasle
r.i.p ..such a massive tragedy ..i will never forget it...that day i was driving back from a music fair in bradford(which finished early due to the events at hillsborough) driving back home on the m62 to merseyside people stopping on the hard shoulder sobbing and crying traffic crawling ..people weeping at the wheel...very very sad day...[COLOR="Red"]the west yorkshire police should shoulder all the blame[/COLOR]


:?
#26
This is a very sad day.

RIP
YNWA
#27
Sad Day , so many young lives..

R.I.P
#28
RIP 96 and thoughts with people still suffering with injuries and grieving from that day X
#29
R.i.p
#30
I'm watching Sky Sports News and i've been reading into the disaster abit, because obviously i wasn't born when this happened.
Am I right by saying this, I hope nobody will be offended by what I am saying.

'Liverpool versus Notts Forest at Hillsbrough, many Liverpool turn up without tickets expecting to get into the match, the police (trying to avoid a squash outside) opened one of the door to let the fans in, as all the fans piled in, there was still a squash, so people tried to climb over the fence to get away from it, because so many people were climbing the fence, it succumbed to the weight and it collapsed on the fans causing many to die.'

AM I right by saying this? Sorry for my ignorance...


It's just by what i've found, i don't know how people can blame the police on how they handled the situation, even though people died, it seemed like some of the decisions they made caused many people to save their lives. Like opening the gates, many people could of died before they even got into the stadium

I would like someone to post back telling me about what is right and wrong about these statements, thanks.
banned#31
R.i.p
#32
borolad94
I'm watching Sky Sports News and i've been reading into the disaster abit, because obviously i wasn't born when this happened.
Am I right by saying this, I hope nobody will be offended by what I am saying.

'Liverpool versus Notts Forest at Hillsbrough, many Liverpool turn up without tickets expecting to get into the match, the police (trying to avoid a squash outside) opened one of the door to let the fans in, as all the fans piled in, there was still a squash, so people tried to climb over the fence to get away from it, because so many people were climbing the fence, it succumbed to the weight and it collapsed on the fans causing many to die.'

AM I right by saying this? Sorry for my ignorance...


It's just by what i've found, i don't know how people can blame the police on how they handled the situation, even though people died, it seemed like some of the decisions they made caused many people to save their lives. Like opening the gates, many people could of died before they even got into the stadium

I would like someone to post back telling me about what is right and wrong about these statements, thanks.


Your partly right but i think some of the main complaints were that the game was allowed to start while people were still trying to get in and this was one of the main causes of the stampede and when the crowd built up outside the police opened more gates and let more people in and also Ambulances werent allowed into the stadium and people who may have been resucitated by crews never had the chance,I personally think the blame belongs with the thugs who for years created violence at these matches which ended up with the fencing and also made it so that the police werent trained to safely move people but were there in case of violence,Once the fencing had gone up this was going to happen somewhere sooner or later,Also the clubs who complained about lack of money for seated stadiums and instead chose to fence people in,
#33
tonyg1962
Your partly right but i think some of the main complaints were that the game was allowed to start while people were still trying to get in and this was one of the main causes of the stampede and when the crowd built up outside the police opened more gates and let more people in and also Ambulances werent allowed into the stadium and people who may have been resucitated by crews never had the chance,I personally think the blame belongs with the thugs who for years created violence at these matches which ended up with the fencing and also made it so that the police werent trained to safely move people but were there in case of violence,Once the fencing had gone up this was going to happen somewhere sooner or later,Also the clubs who complained about lack of money for seated stadiums and instead chose to fence people in,


Oh ok then, i understand abit more now, Thanks.
1 Like #34
borolad94
I'm watching Sky Sports News and i've been reading into the disaster abit, because obviously i wasn't born when this happened.
Am I right by saying this, I hope nobody will be offended by what I am saying.

'Liverpool versus Notts Forest at Hillsbrough, many Liverpool turn up without tickets expecting to get into the match, the police (trying to avoid a squash outside) opened one of the door to let the fans in, as all the fans piled in, there was still a squash, so people tried to climb over the fence to get away from it, because so many people were climbing the fence, it succumbed to the weight and it collapsed on the fans causing many to die.'

AM I right by saying this? Sorry for my ignorance...


It's just by what i've found, i don't know how people can blame the police on how they handled the situation, even though people died, it seemed like some of the decisions they made caused many people to save their lives. Like opening the gates, many people could of died before they even got into the stadium

I would like someone to post back telling me about what is right and wrong about these statements, thanks.




There were two Taylor reports and a lot of people don't know that there were two, plus a lot of recommendation to this day are still not in place but they focussed so massively on standing.

Things like it was the policemans 1st time in charge of a big game is reported little, plus the fact that many of the clubs safety certificates were out of date or not valid.

The lack of signs in the lepping lane end, so when the exit gates were opened to ease the congestion outside a lot of fans went straight down the middle tunnel which said "STANDING" and into the already overly crowded pens.

The attempts to try and blame the liverpool fans for it, its the reason why many in liverpool still do not buy the sun newspaper to this day.

Look at the facts below about little things like how little turnstiles there were for liverpool fans compared to forest fans.


Have a read of this, i know it is long but it contains the truth and is from http://www.susd.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=28


- The Hillsborough Stadium disaster on 15th April 1989 killed 96 people.
- It is widely believed that the disaster would not have occurred had the ground been all seater, something we believe is simplistic and far from the truth.
- There were a wide range of factors contributing to the tragedy. Our aim here is to bring out the main ones and look and how things have changed since.

The Taylor Report

- In his investigations into the causes of the disaster, Lord Taylor produced two reports, an Interim Report and a Final Report.
- The Interim Report looked at the causes of the disaster, and made a few short-term recommendations
- The Final Report looked at the game in broader detail, examining issues such as membership cards and all-seater stadiums.
- References are from Taylor`s interim report, unless stated otherwise.

Hillsborough Stadium

- The disaster occurred in the Leppings Lane End of Hillsborough.
- The Leppings Lane End was a two tier stand, with seating above and terracing below.
- The standing area had a capacity of 10,100, divided into seven sections with fences dividing them. One of these, pen 5, was a narrow unused sction, used for segregation. Thus six pens were used. The central two were pens 3 & 4.
- There was also a fence at the front, whose aim was to stop supporters invading the pitch.
- Supporters entered the terrace from the back.
- Once through the turnstiles, there were three entrances onto the standing area. One led to pens 1&2, another to pens 6&7, the third to the central pens 3&4.
- The police had advised the capacity of the terrace was too high, but this advice had been ignored by the club.

The causes of the disaster

- 'The disaster happened because pens three and four became dangerously overcrowded` (para 116)
- The reasons why can be broken into two broad headings.

1. Overcrowding during the build up to the game
2. A large influx of people caused by the opening of an external gate at 2.52.

The overcrowding of pens 3&4

- Taylor assigns three causes to this, the most significant being the design of the Leppings Lane End.
- Once supporters entered the ground, they had three routes to the terrace (para 44)
- They could head right around the corner of the stand to pens 1&2. Alternatively, they could head around the left side to pens 6&7. Neither were signed.
- The obvious route was ahead through a tunnel with a big 'Standing` sign above it. This led to pens 3&4.
- In addition, the area directly behind the goal was more popular than the area behind the corner flags, so more supporters would naturally wish to stand there.
- The result, was that during the build up to the game the central pens became uncomfortably crowded. Meanwhile, there was plenty of space to the sides.
- No actions were taken to address the issues, such as closing the tunnel to the central pens.

The large influx of people at 2.52pm

- Nottingham Forest supporters were given 29,800 tickets in the East and South Stands. These were serviced by sixty turnstiles, one per 497 spectators (para 31).
- Liverpool supporters were allocated 24,256 spaces in the North and West Stands. These were served by only twenty-three turnstiles. Of this, the standing section (the Leppings Lane lower tier) had only seven turnstiles for 10,100 people. At one per 1,443 people, this was barely 1/ 3 of the supporter - turnstile ratio at the Penistone End.
- It was felt that each turnstile, operating at full capacity, could admit 1,000 spectators per hour. Even by this optimistic prediction, it would take one and a half hours to admit all the people into the terrace. Thus it was essential that many entered the ground very early.
- In practice, this did not happen. The result was that 'between 2.40pm and 2.45pm the build up of the crowd inside and outside the turnstile approach had swelled to 5,000` (para 65). The late arrival was due, in part, to traffic delays.
- The resultant crush was worsened by concerns about getting into the ground, as kick-off had not been delayed beyond 3pm.
- This lead to fears that there would be injuries or even fatalities. The decision was taken to open Gate C (a gate next to the turnstiles for the standing area) at 2.52pm.
- Crucially, however, the tunnel to pens 3&4 was not shut off, so many supporters took this route. Those already on the terrace were trapped and such was the crowd behind they could not turn back.
- Fenced in on all sides, the result was that many were crushed to death.

How do Safe Standing areas differ from the Hillsborough Terraces

- In our view, the safety of a ground is not determined by whether it is all-seated.
- Similar disasters have occured in all-seater grounds, such as the Ellis Park tragedy in South Africa in 2001, when 43 people were crushed to death.
- We believe that all areas of grounds, standing and seated, should be designed and managed to ensure a high level of safety.
- Over the past twenty years, great strides have been made from Hillsborough style terraces to modern Safe Standing areas. Some of these, such as those in Burton Albion`s new Pirelli Stadium, have been built very recently. The key features include:
- The installation of extra turnstiles, to prevent a build up of spectators outside the ground.
- Careful setting of ground capacities to prevent overcrowding inside.
- Strengthening of barriers, including rigorous testing of their strength every couple of years.
- Better marking of gangways.
- A removal of perimeter fencing.
#35
borolad94

'Liverpool versus Notts Forest at Hillsbrough, many Liverpool turn up without tickets expecting to get into the match, the police (trying to avoid a squash outside) opened one of the door to let the fans in, as all the fans piled in, there was still a squash, so people tried to climb over the fence to get away from it, because so many people were climbing the fence, it succumbed to the weight and it collapsed on the fans causing many to die.'



No that's not what happened. You have mixed Hillsborugh and Heysel together.
#36
tonyg1962
,Also the clubs who complained about lack of money for seated stadiums and instead chose to fence people in,


Please do not be so ignorant on blaming it on standing.

People died on terraces, not due to terraces.
#37
rip x
#38
fireheaven;4928322
They should hang their heads in shame as should South Yorkshire Police for their unforgiveble mistakes made that day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1bm5ldjDrk


:(

I have just finished reading this that someone linked me too. It is long but if you have some time to spare worth a read.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/04/14/they-ve-said-it-was-a-surge-but-it-wasn-t-it-was-a-slow-build-up-of-pressure-like-a-vice-tighter-tighter-until-you-could-not-breathe-115875-21277364/

The docu drama made by ITV and Jimmy McGovern 'Hillsborough' is repeated tonight on ITV3 at 9pm

They should never be forgotten. Rest In Peace.
#39
the__mayster
Please do not be so ignorant on blaming it on standing.

People died on terraces, not due to terraces.


If i am so ignorant tell me why after Hillsborough and Heysel were all seater stadiums introduced,To stop this happening again thats why,

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