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Ok, today I received an email thats basically a rejection into yet another possible internship. Im now left walking into my uni exams knowing that there is a greater risk that i would not be able get …
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5y, 10m agoPosted 5 years, 10 months ago
Ok, today I received an email thats basically a rejection into yet another possible internship. Im now left walking into my uni exams knowing that there is a greater risk that i would not be able get a job as soon as I leave university (btw, i graduate next year, not this).

It looks pretty bad imo, but before going to the careers office, I thought it might be better if I came and asked here for advice (i know this is hotukdeals, but hey, any advice cant be bad, right?). What can I do now?

final edit: as i dont wanna bump this up anymore - thx pied_piper for the advice!
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5y, 10m agoPosted 5 years, 10 months ago
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#1
go to the careers office
#2
wow you read quick lol
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Well if it was medical advice you required i could of helped..........
#4
Why are you worried if you don't graduate until next year? You still have a whole 1 year to sort something else out.

Do you know why you were rejected? Maybe it's because they were only looking for people available in 2011, not 2012 as that would be your start date.
#5
People arn't really going to be able to help you without some extra information:

1) degree subject
2) career aspirations
3) Current skills ect. ect.

Best advise is as above go to the careers advise at your university/
#6
transit
Well if it was medical advice you required i could of helped..........

nice subtle joke :D

oldmanhouse
Why are you worried if you don't graduate until next year? You still have a whole 1 year to sort something else out.

Do you know why you were rejected? Maybe it's because they were only looking for people available in 2011, not 2012 as that would be your start date.

the internships i apply for are for people who are graduating on 2012 so im actually ok here - the main reason i didnt get the internship was because competition is quite fierce for the relatively small amount of places and basically "there are better suited canditates" as they usually say. I think that if I dont do something meaningful to help me get a job (i mean almost everyone out there has a degree now, so a degree in itself is probably less worthwhile than it used to in terms of career progression), then there is a good chance that I will be walking into unemployment. Bottom line is that I dont want to graduate and then immediately apply for JSA.

asayer
People arn't really going to be able to help you without some extra information:

1) degree subject
2) career aspirations
3) Current skills ect. ect.

Best advise is as above go to the careers advise at your university/


1) i do maths
2) i tried my hand in the usual internships in the financial sector because that is a likely branch im walking into. I do have interests in technology though my degree is not suited for this (and im illiterate in C++ )
3) current skills - ummm one that I suppose that i know im good at is... maths? If we are talking social skills, then surely everyone knows the basics

Edited By: Artonox on Apr 27, 2011 19:57
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Artonox
transit
Well if it was medical advice you required i could of helped..........

nice subtle joke :D

oldmanhouse
Why are you worried if you don't graduate until next year? You still have a whole 1 year to sort something else out.

Do you know why you were rejected? Maybe it's because they were only looking for people available in 2011, not 2012 as that would be your start date.

the internships i apply for are for people who are graduating on 2012 so im actually ok here - the main reason i didnt get the internship was because competition is quite fierce for the relatively small amount of places and basically "there are better suited canditates" as they usually say. I think that if I dont do something meaningful to help me get a job (i mean almost everyone out there has a degree now, so a degree in itself is probably less worthwhile than it used to in terms of career progression), then there is a good chance that I will be walking into unemployment. Bottom line is that I dont want to graduate and then immediately apply for JSA.


If the field you are in is so competitive... maybe you should consider doing a Masters Degree to differentiate yourself from other candidates... It might seem like an extra year of education, but will definitely pay off in the long run.

Edited By: krazie2004 on Apr 27, 2011 19:55
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krazie2004
Artonox
transit
Well if it was medical advice you required i could of helped..........

nice subtle joke :D

oldmanhouse
Why are you worried if you don't graduate until next year? You still have a whole 1 year to sort something else out.

Do you know why you were rejected? Maybe it's because they were only looking for people available in 2011, not 2012 as that would be your start date.

the internships i apply for are for people who are graduating on 2012 so im actually ok here - the main reason i didnt get the internship was because competition is quite fierce for the relatively small amount of places and basically "there are better suited canditates" as they usually say. I think that if I dont do something meaningful to help me get a job (i mean almost everyone out there has a degree now, so a degree in itself is probably less worthwhile than it used to in terms of career progression), then there is a good chance that I will be walking into unemployment. Bottom line is that I dont want to graduate and then immediately apply for JSA.


If the field you are in is so competitive... maybe you should consider doing a Masters Degree to differentiate yourself from other candidates... It might seem like an extra year of education, but will definitely pay off in the long run.


funnily enough im on it. Its not the MSc degree (since there is no govt funding for that one) but the MSci degree.
banned#9
You have hukd's why do you want a job?
#10
transit
Well if it was medical advice you required I could have helped..........


Grammar advice and I could help.........
#11
whatsThePoint
You have hukd's why do you want a job?


i need money to spend on the epic deals that keep spawning from here.
#12
Artonox
krazie2004
Artonox
transit
Well if it was medical advice you required i could of helped..........

nice subtle joke :D

oldmanhouse
Why are you worried if you don't graduate until next year? You still have a whole 1 year to sort something else out.

Do you know why you were rejected? Maybe it's because they were only looking for people available in 2011, not 2012 as that would be your start date.

the internships i apply for are for people who are graduating on 2012 so im actually ok here - the main reason i didnt get the internship was because competition is quite fierce for the relatively small amount of places and basically "there are better suited canditates" as they usually say. I think that if I dont do something meaningful to help me get a job (i mean almost everyone out there has a degree now, so a degree in itself is probably less worthwhile than it used to in terms of career progression), then there is a good chance that I will be walking into unemployment. Bottom line is that I dont want to graduate and then immediately apply for JSA.


If the field you are in is so competitive... maybe you should consider doing a Masters Degree to differentiate yourself from other candidates... It might seem like an extra year of education, but will definitely pay off in the long run.


funnily enough im on it. Its not the MSc degree (since there is no govt funding for that one) but the MSci degree.


My advise is get of a MSci degree, and get on an MSc, MSci's arnt recognised my numerous employers, as many still arnt sure of their value. They are certainly not masters degrees, as ive recently been finding out. Im officially in the middle of an MSci Petroleum Engineering at IC London, and when ever I talk to employers at any networking events, they always (without fail) advise me to consider either a relevent MSc or simply a BSc and a longer graduate training programme.

I agree with your arguement about the lack of internships, im affraid we just have to see it as a sign of the times. Id advise drop calling or emailing smaller companies, and offering yourself as a free intern, it may mean you are a little more skint next year, however the experience will look like a real CV bonus.
#13
Mp2609

My advise is get of a MSci degree, and get on an MSc, MSci's arnt recognised my numerous employers, as many still arnt sure of their value. They are certainly not masters degrees, as ive recently been finding out. Im officially in the middle of an MSci Petroleum Engineering at IC London, and when ever I talk to employers at any networking events, they always (without fail) advise me to consider either a relevent MSc or simply a BSc and a longer graduate training programme.

I agree with your arguement about the lack of internships, im affraid we just have to see it as a sign of the times. Id advise drop calling or emailing smaller companies, and offering yourself as a free intern, it may mean you are a little more skint next year, however the experience will look like a real CV bonus.


You are probably right on the MSci degree - there is a certain amount of confusion (me inc) around it. MSc i find is fairly dear - I think we are talking at least £10000 (some 20000+) for the year. I dont have the money for that unfortunately, which is why im heading towards the MSci route. I suppose i would have to do the drop email route. The last resort i have is fall back on my current part time job, which i suppose will suffice but wont be beneficial in the long run.
#14
You might want to email some MPs, they could use some help with adding up their expenses...
#15
did you get straight rejections or did you atleast get interviewed?

ive heard there are like 100:1 applicants:jobs hence your failure.
you could always ask for feedback etc

Edited By: breeville on Apr 27, 2011 22:03
#16
Artonox


1) i do maths
2) i tried my hand in the usual internships in the financial sector because that is a likely branch im walking into. I do have interests in technology though my degree is not suited for this (and im illiterate in C++ )
3) current skills - ummm one that I suppose that i know im good at is... maths? If we are talking social skills, then surely everyone knows the basics


I do C++ stuff for the financial sector. I don't come from the maths background but have seen a fair amount of mathematicians in the sector. The field is highly competitive in terms of academics and skills. These companies generally tend to hire graduates with 2:1 degree from so called red brick universities unless you have a good portfolio of your relevant projects. Some skills are really in high demand, for example a good demonstrable command on the combination of stochastic processes/ probability and C++ could easily land you in a highly lucrative position of quantitative developer. I am not in a position to tell you what to do now, but I can tell you if you are not going to do an internship, do some research about type of jobs you would be targetting and skills you want. Invest your time in getting those skills

Edited By: pied_piper on Apr 27, 2011 22:05
#17
Improve your CV, get feeback, talk to careers office.
#18
breeville
did you get straight rejections or did you atleast get interviewed?

ive heard there are like 100:1 applicants:jobs hence your failure.
you could always ask for feedback etc

ive been all the way to the "assessment centre", which is the final part and then rejected. That said, for some, ive been immediately rejected - a bit of an annoyance after spending all those hours making the application look good and even passing their online tests just for them to say "we have everyone already".

pied_piper

I do C++ stuff for the financial sector. I don't come from the maths background but have seen a fair amount of mathematicians in the sector. The field is highly competitive in terms of academics and skills. These companies generally tend to hire graduates with 2:1 degree from so called red brick universities unless you have a good portfolio of your relevant projects. Some skills are really in high demand, for example a good demonstrable command on the combination of stochastic processes/ probability and C++ could easily land you in a highly lucrative position of quantitative developer. I am not in a position to tell you what to do now, but I can tell you if you are not going to do an internship, do some research about type of jobs you would be targetting and skills you want. Invest your time in getting those skills


Yeah i see that the tech sector is heavily oversubscribed (and that is probably an understatement) - Ive heard other developers mentioning this as well. I think you are right in terms of getting new skills (i personally think its the way to go tbh, though this needs time and money). In terms of quantitative developer, im not sure if its true, but dont they want people with phds?! My course isnt super focused on probability, but i have taken a module in it (which was absymal tbh). But I will certainly need to refocus on the career bit. As for the uni im from, im not from the red brick unis, (id say its from the russell group though) so i guess ill need to be exceptional.

linuxlinks
You might want to email some MPs, they could use some help with adding up their expenses...


lol if i do that then they probably gonna have to live off baked beans for the ludicrous stuff they been taking

maximoshark
Improve your CV, get feeback, talk to careers office.

i think ive done all i could with the cv (ive done many revisions and my current one has done well for me so far - i will need to improve it by adding more skills/work experience or some sort).
As for feedback - ill need to find some time for that. I hope to do it at some stage.
As for careers office - defo will. Its my last hope D:
#19
Have you had your CV looked at and reviewed by someone?
#20
maximoshark
Have you had your CV looked at and reviewed by someone?

yeah, the careers guy had a look at it, and basically told me to make the fonts smaller (from [edit:]12 to 10 ) and add more "things that i done that highlights my skills" relevant to the job. After doing that its supposedly ok now. i may need to find another guy to look at it though, just for second opinions, but this version of the cv had got the interviews for me, which is why i think its fairly good.




Edited By: Artonox on Apr 27, 2011 23:25: a
#21
Artonox

pied_piper

I do C++ stuff for the financial sector. I don't come from the maths background but have seen a fair amount of mathematicians in the sector. The field is highly competitive in terms of academics and skills. These companies generally tend to hire graduates with 2:1 degree from so called red brick universities unless you have a good portfolio of your relevant projects. Some skills are really in high demand, for example a good demonstrable command on the combination of stochastic processes/ probability and C++ could easily land you in a highly lucrative position of quantitative developer. I am not in a position to tell you what to do now, but I can tell you if you are not going to do an internship, do some research about type of jobs you would be targetting and skills you want. Invest your time in getting those skills


Yeah i see that the tech sector is heavily oversubscribed (and that is probably an understatement) - Ive heard other developers mentioning this as well. I think you are right in terms of getting new skills (i personally think its the way to go tbh, though this needs time and money). In terms of quantitative developer, im not sure if its true, but dont they want people with phds?! My course isnt super focused on probability, but i have taken a module in it (which was absymal tbh). But I will certainly need to refocus on the career bit. As for the uni im from, im not from the red brick unis, (id say its from the russell group though) so i guess ill need to be exceptional.


Good thing is you seem to have a fair idea about the market you are targetting. I don't work as quant so can't say for sure about the requirements though I have seen some guys with MSc in financial maths in the field. But the course is very expensive and not worth it unless you love doing this stuff. On your CV, you have to show skills relevant to the job specifications so work on that. You still have a lot of time at your disposal. All the very best !

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