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Revealed: Pair behind Baby P death

bhara Avatar
7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
Revealed: Pair behind Baby P death
Tracey Connelly has been named as the mother of Baby Peter
pa.press.net
The couple responsible for the death of Baby P have been identified after a court order giving them anonymity expired.
Tracey Connelly and her lover Steven Barker were responsible for the death of 17-month-old Peter Connelly in his blood-spattered room in August 2007.
It can also be disclosed that the third defendant in the case, Jason Owen, 37, is Barker's brother.
And the Barker brothers' past does not stop at taunting and torturing a toddler. They were also accused of assaulting their own grandmother.
Connelly, who has four other children, is the daughter of a woman with drink and drug problems. She was involved with social workers throughout her childhood and knew how to manipulate them.
She started a relationship with Peter's father, who was 17 years her senior, when she was just 16 having lied to him about her age. They went on to marry.
The Barkers - Owen changed his name after Peter's death to try to distance himself from the Baby P outrage - were charged with assaulting their grandmother Hilda Barker, 82, at her home in Whitstable, Kent, in 1995.
She told police they locked her in a wardrobe to make her change her will in their favour. The case was dropped the following year, before the Barkers came to trial, after the frail grandmother died from pneumonia.
Connelly, 28, and Barker, 33, of Penshurst Road, Tottenham, north London, were sentenced in May for causing or allowing Peter's death. They could not be named until now for legal reasons, although their names and photographs have appeared on the internet.
Father-of-four Owen was also jailed for the same offence, which took place while he was staying at Peter's home with his 15-year-old runaway lover.

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-documentid=149116130
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#1
not being funny but why bother posting this its not a deal and i for one couldnt care less who they are as long as thyre in prison
banned#2
jamespir
not being funny but why bother posting this its not a deal


I don't understand why people just copy and paste stuff from news sites without some sort of comment or anything either.
1 Like #3
jamespir
not being funny but why bother posting this its not a deal and i for one couldnt care less who they are as long as thyre in prison


No It's not a deal that's why it's been posted in misc. if you don't care don't respond, simples
banned#4
the news on gmtv said that the mother will be in a protection programme costing £1,000,000 a year

surely, that cant be true.

and can we please stop referring to Baby P now that the name is revealed as Peter!
#5
queenlush
No It's not a deal that's why it's been posted in misc. if you don't care don't respond, simples


+1

:thumbsup::)
[mod]#6
ilovepink
+1

:thumbsup::)


+2
banned#7
csiman
the news on gmtv said that the mother will be in a protection programme costing £1,000,000 a year

surely, that cant be true.


She will need protection due to the amount of people who think it's ok to try to kill or hurt her.
Obviously if the CPS had more balls and charged them with something more serious she would be inside longer and people possibly wouldn't think she had got away with it.
#8
I tjnik its horrible about what happened to baby peter
it makes it worse after what prince harry did
oops not harry but a torry activist!
slipped out!
#9
rihanna08
I tjnik its horrible about what happened to baby peter
it makes it worse after what prince harry did


what did he do?
1 Like #10
pair of scumbags hope they die a slow painfull death after what they put poor peter through
#11
jamstaruk1972
pair of scumbags hope they die a slow painfull death after what they put poor peter through


+1 me too
#12
"Revealed"? This is the internet. You're not constrained to mainstream media here. The identity of the parents and the kid and photos of all have been public knowledge here since about a day after the print and televised media got hold of the story.
#13
dxx
"Revealed"? This is the internet. You're not constrained to mainstream media here. The identity of the parents and the kid and photos of all have been public knowledge here since about a day after the print and televised media got hold of the story.


Last night on the news they couldn't show the pictures of the parents till after 12 midnight, I was like what legal reasons stop you from doing that when you have surely shown them already?
banned#14
Connelly, who has four other children, is the daughter of a woman with drink and drug problems. She was involved with social workers throughout her childhood and knew how to manipulate them.

Am I going to get called a 'namby-pamby, guardian-reading liberal' if I suggest that maybe we should look at the circumstances in which these type of people are brought up and suggest maybe we're all a little bit to blame:?
#15
FilthAndFurry
Connelly, who has four other children, is the daughter of a woman with drink and drug problems. She was involved with social workers throughout her childhood and knew how to manipulate them.

Am I going to get called a 'namby-pamby, guardian-reading liberal' if I suggest that maybe we should look at the circumstances in which these type of people are brought up and suggest maybe we're all a little bit to blame:?


Yeah its my fault,
#16
FilthAndFurry
Connelly, who has four other children, is the daughter of a woman with drink and drug problems. She was involved with social workers throughout her childhood and knew how to manipulate them.

Am I going to get called a 'namby-pamby, guardian-reading liberal' if I suggest that maybe we should look at the circumstances in which these type of people are brought up and suggest maybe we're all a little bit to blame:?


Yes bad up-bringing is a contributory factor to breaking your son's back.
1 Like #17
FilthAndFurry
Connelly, who has four other children, is the daughter of a woman with drink and drug problems. She was involved with social workers throughout her childhood and knew how to manipulate them.

Am I going to get called a 'namby-pamby, guardian-reading liberal' if I suggest that maybe we should look at the circumstances in which these type of people are brought up and suggest maybe we're all a little bit to blame:?


NO

everyone is answerable to their own actions and the 'i had a bad childhood' line doesnt wash with me, i know plenty of people who have a terrible childhood and a couple who had a horrific childhood but they have done everything in their power to make sure their lives and those of thier children are very much the opposite
banned#18
ilovepink;5988557
NO

everyone is answerable to their own actions and the 'i had a bad childhood' line doesnt wash with me, i know plenty of people who have a terrible childhood and a couple who had a horrific childhood but they have done everything in their power to make sure their lives and those of thier children are very much the opposite

+1 :thumbsup:
banned#19
ilovepink
NO

everyone is answerable to their own actions and the 'i had a bad childhood' line doesnt wash with me, i know plenty of people who have a terrible childhood and a couple who had a horrific childhood but they have done everything in their power to make sure their lives and those of thier children are very much the opposite


Different people will react to different circumstances. The point is shouldn't we try and give everyone as decent a chance in life as possible?

If you're brought up with a disregard for your own life, it's not surprising that you might disregard other's.

It depends on how you view stories like this. Some people just like stories that give them a chance to be outraged, whilst some actually want to do something to stop it happening in future.
banned#20
tonyg1962
Yeah its my fault,


I'm not saying it's your's or mine directly. But we leave great swathes of society hopeless and impoverished and then act outraged when things go badly wrong.
#21
FilthAndFurry
I'm not saying it's your's or mine directly. But we leave great swathes of society hopeless and impoverished and then act outraged when things go badly wrong.


How is anybody in this county impoverished?. We live in one of the few countries in the world with free health,free education and if you cannot be bothered to work we will give you free housing and feed you for the rest of your life,You really do have no idea what poverty is,
banned#22
FilthAndFurry
Connelly, who has four other children, is the daughter of a woman with drink and drug problems. She was involved with social workers throughout her childhood and knew how to manipulate them.

Am I going to get called a 'namby-pamby, guardian-reading liberal' if I suggest that maybe we should look at the circumstances in which these type of people are brought up and suggest maybe we're all a little bit to blame:?


Not what I was thinking TBH.

HTH
banned#23
FilthAndFurry
I'm not saying it's your's or mine directly. But we leave great swathes of society hopeless and impoverished and then act outraged when things go badly wrong.


How exactly were these impoverished?
They had somewhere to live, presumably got benefits and therefore didn't go hungry (unless they spent all the money on booze and fags).
I see homeless people who beg for food every day, as far as I know they haven't killed children, and i would say they are worse off than these.
banned#24
tonyg1962
How is anybody in this county impoverished?. We live in one of the few countries in the world with free health,free education and if you cannot be bothered to work we will give you free housing and feed you for the rest of your life,You really do have no idea what poverty is,


Poverty is a relative term. Of course we don't have the same problems as third-world countries, but we do have a growing gap between the rich and poor and an increasingly disenfranchised 'underclass'.

That's a serious problem.
banned#25
tonyg1962;5989115
How is anybody in this county impoverished?. We live in one of the few countries in the world with free health,free education and if you cannot be bothered to work we will give you free housing and feed you for the rest of your life,You really do have no idea what poverty is,

+1

you are classed as in poverty if your household takes less than 2/3rds of the average wage

so £310 income is classed as being in poverty :w00t:

THERE IS SIMPLY NO EXCUSE FOR THE BEHAVIOUR OF THESE ANIMALS

and now, the taxpayer has to pay a miilion per year to keep her protected

whats wrong with shipping all these people to some remote scottish uninhabited island and dropping off food to them once a month

extreme I know but cheaper :-D
banned#26
csiman
+1

you are classed as in poverty if your household takes less than 2/3rds of the average wage

so £310 income is classed as being in poverty :w00t:

THERE IS SIMPLY NO EXCUSE FOR THE BEHAVIOUR OF THESE ANIMALS

and now, the taxpayer has to pay a miilion per year to keep her protected

whats wrong with shipping all these people to some remote scottish uninhabited island and dropping off food to them once a month

extreme I know but cheaper :-D


No-one is trying to excuse it - the point is to try and figure out why it happened to prevent it happening again.

I know the 'pitchfork' mentality is more fun and a lot easier, but i'd prefer not to see something like this happen again.

Your idea seems to be to sweep them underneath the proverbial carpet and ignore them, which quite frankly is part of the reason this happened in the first place.
#27
csiman
so £310 income is classed as being in poverty :w00t:


I'm morbidly povert then :lol:
banned#28
FilthAndFurry
No-one is trying to excuse it - the point is to try and figure out why it happened to prevent it happening again.

I know the 'pitchfork' mentality is more fun and a lot easier, but i'd prefer not to see something like this happen again.

Your idea seems to be to sweep them underneath the proverbial carpet and ignore them, which quite frankly is part of the reason this happened in the first place.


The small flaw in your posts is that rich people brought up in nice families without the problems of inner city council estates, also commit crimes.
banned#29
colinsunderland
The small flaw in your posts is that rich people brought up in nice families without the problems of inner city council estates, also commit crimes.


It's not really a flaw - disenfranchisement can come in many forms be they through socio-economic factors or mental instability or any other way.
banned#30
FilthAndFurry;5990160
It's not really a flaw - disenfranchisement can come in many forms be they through socio-economic factors or mental instability or any other way.

I'd opt for the mental instability factor 90% of the time. Then you have to factor in that socio-economic factors breed mental instability so its a catch 22 really imho
#31
i cant see any reason/excuse why they tortured peter the pain he must of gone through upsets me just to think about it
a child should feel safe and loved when with his parents but he must of just felt hatred and pure fear

i think they should be locked up and tortured every day like they did to him,its not the answer but would be more satisfiying infact i would do it myself free of charge

i did not have a good childhood either it just makes me want to be a better parent to my kids
banned#32
edjaned
i cant see any reason/excuse why they tortured peter the pain he must of gone through upsets me just to think about it
a child should feel safe and loved when with his parents but he must of just felt hatred and pure fear

i think they should be locked up and tortured every day like they did to him,its not the answer but would be more satisfiying infact i would do it myself free of charge

i did not have a good childhood either it just makes me want to be a better parent to my kids


So you say that you can't see why they would torture a baby, but then you say you'd happily torture them?
#33
jamstaruk1972
pair of scumbags hope they die a slow painfull death after what they put poor peter through


agreed,they should be killed end of,another reason for death penalty/capital punishment.

They do not deserve to live

The baby had no chance so neither should they.
#34
FilthAndFurry
Poverty is a relative term. Of course we don't have the same problems as third-world countries, but we do have a growing gap between the rich and poor and an increasingly disenfranchised 'underclass'.

That's a serious problem.


so if you are a millionaire but you live next door to a billionaire ,Then you are poor ?
#35
FilthAndFurry
So you say that you can't see why they would torture a baby, but then you say you'd happily torture them?


no i cannot see why anybody let alone his own mother would hurt torture kill an innocent child

yeah i would torture them they deserve it,maybe they should try bullying someone their own size rather than an innocent defenseless child
banned#36
tonyg1962
so if you are a millionaire but you live next door to a billionaire ,Then you are poor ?


Interesting. I suppose if you make a silly response to a sensible point, it could make the silly point look even sillier:thumbsup:
banned#37
edjaned
no i cannot see why anybody let alone his own mother would hurt torture kill an innocent child

yeah i would torture them they deserve it,maybe they should try bullying someone their own size rather than an innocent defenseless child


So you can't understand torture, but you yourself would torture?

They clearly had no regard for the child's rights, and as a society we should make sure this doesn't happen again.
#38
FilthAndFurry
So you can't understand torture, but you yourself would torture?

They clearly had no regard for the child's rights, and as a society we should make sure this doesn't happen again.


didnt say i cant understand torture,
i wouldnt just torture anyone lol but scum like that deserve to be tortured,i have a son the same age as peter was it sickens me how they could do that to him
#39
FilthAndFurry
Interesting. I suppose if you make a silly response to a sensible point, it could make the silly point look even sillier:thumbsup:


You said poverty is relative,But why is it only relative to people who live near you and not relative to every other human being ,Saying that people live in poverty in a country where a large number of people who have never had jobs actually eat themselves to death is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard,There is no poverty in this country just lethargy,
banned#40
boothy
agreed,they should be killed end of,another reason for death penalty/capital punishment.

They do not deserve to live

The baby had no chance so neither should they.


Reminds me of

http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/imgs/media/Ted_s_pix/george_w_bush_golfing_300x416.jpg

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