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rosetta stone - anyone used these?

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Hi has anyone used these to actually learn a language and did it work ? thanks Read More
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7y, 2m agoPosted 7 years, 2 months ago
Hi

has anyone used these to actually learn a language and did it work ?

thanks
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7y, 2m agoPosted 7 years, 2 months ago
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My dad used them for a bit and got decent enough results from them, before moving on. Certainly they can have some positive effect, but my main word of warning would be to check that your expectations are realistic in relation to it. It's not some kind of magic formula that will make you fluent straight away; no method will do that. And you simply cannot learn a language to a good level without a degree of hard work and dedication, the exception being if you live in the country and learn it out of necessity.

What language are you trying to learn, and do you speak any languages other than English at the moment?
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thanks crazy j .... no i dont speak any other languages , but I would like to learn french .. I don't really have any expectations about learning a language , but what did your dad learn and what stage did he get to and how long did it take ?
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He was trying to learn Spanish, and Rosetta Stone was one of the first methods that he tried. He did learn a fair amount of vocabulary from scratch, but to be honest he wasn't understanding what he was learning. In other words, he could recite words and some sentences, but couldn't manipulate the language in any way, which obviously somewhat cripples you if you want to use it practically. As I say, he moved on after perhaps a month or so of using it. Probably because it just frustrated him.

Without wanting to be rude here, what's your level of education when it comes to basic grammar? As in, do you know what adjectives, verbs, adverbs, pronouns, personal pronouns etc are? Are you aware that a verb has six basic parts depending on what the subject is, and do you know what those parts are? Do you know the difference between tenses such as past, present, future, conditional and so on?

You see, my dad didn't know any of that, and that's why he really struggled to get to grips with a second language. He couldn't follow more traditional 'learning' courses that start from scratch with different verb endings and such, which is why he thought that Rosetta Stone would work, because it doesn't use that. But ultimately it was a vicious circle because he couldn't manipulate what he picked up from Rosetta Stone. In the end he just had to go down the long, hard route of learning about basic grammar from scratch before getting a grasp of a separate language.

If you know about grammar in English, then Rosetta Stone may be of some use to you. However, if you have ambition with the language I would recommend using a second method that gives you some more traditional lessons. I don't think Rosetta Stone gives everything that a beginner in a language needs. Then again if you have some basic grammatical knowledge but don't think you have the desire or work rate to really take a run at a language, Rosetta Stone will give you something pretty easily. Just don't expect it to make you fluent.
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denandyas
thanks crazy j .... no i dont speak any other languages , but I would like to learn french .. I don't really have any expectations about learning a language , but what did your dad learn and what stage did he get to and how long did it take ?


for french-michel thomas language cds are far better and far cheaper than rosetta stone
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Good reply jamie. Rosetta stone is very different in the way it teachers, nothing is ever spoken in english so you do need to use secondary sources. Else you'll go through the whole course misusing or misunderstanding what something actually means. My wife speaks french at a very high level (i forget which) but she worked for a french company for a year. Even to her some of the ways grammar is used in the program are different to what she was taught or learnt in france.

Check the torrents to demo rosetta stone ;)
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Just went out for a KFC and I come back to all you lovely people who have replied .. thanks v much ....

Crazy J - I think you have hit the nail on the head about the grammer etc - I have tried ages ago to pick up a language but failed and I think your tips about learning the breakdown of the language is an important one - but I was hoping rosetta stone would help me out with this ...maybe not

Barky - will look upon that for learning french ...trhanks for the rec

lumoruck - I've got it dwnloading as we speak thanks for reminding me ---

rep for all of you lovelies ....
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denandyas

Crazy J - I think you have hit the nail on the head about the grammer etc - I have tried ages ago to pick up a language but failed and I think your tips about learning the breakdown of the language is an important one - but I was hoping rosetta stone would help me out with this ...maybe not
That's one thing that Rosetta Stone will definitely not help you with. And it really is essential if you want to be able to practically use a language. That's not to say that Rosetta Stone has no place in your learning process, but you will definitely need something to supplement it. I don't have any experience of Barky's suggestion of Michel Thomas though I have heard of him. It's probably worth at least having a look at that. Whatever you do choose having a few different ways of learning and gaining experience is advisable. For general experience/practice have a look for some free podcasts. That's perhaps for when you're a bit further down the line, but there's a wealth of practice sources on the internet you have the basics down.

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