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Royal Mail Workers Vote To Strike

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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
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#1
#2
watch their contracts slip away

foot = shot away
#3
contracts will return once its all done and dusted..... there is nobody that has the infrastructure to deal with the volume that rm does
#4
;-) well good for them...what about the post that hasnt reached people for the past 5 weeks or so...a geezer on bbc earlier said ...30 million letters and parcels backlog!!!! lets hope royal mail staff never get their super jobs back!!!...bring on the polish workers!!!
#5
casparwhite
contracts will return once its all done and dusted..... there is nobody that has the infrastructure to deal with the volume that rm does


Some will, some won't. The problem that will cause is that RM won't have the same money coming in = less jobs available = redundancies. We'll probably get strikes over that too.

Is it just me or are RM workers striking on a regular basis now (not just the past few weeks, but going back over the past 2 or 3 years)? It's pathetic considering you pay for a postal service you don't get. At first I was sympathetic to the workers, but seeing as they strike at the drop of a hat, I'm getting a bit hacked off with them. They should count themselves lucky they've got jobs considering...
#6
Well... that my bills that will be late...

Bothered.
#7
Mr Weasle
bring on the polish workers!!!


Why should the poles have to do all the c**p jobs... ;-)
#8
the workers need to accept that the mail industry isn't what it used to be, thanks to emails etc. Stream lining and job cuts are inevitable.

Deal with it, move on.
#9
ChipSticks
the workers need to accept that the mail industry isn't what it used to be, thanks to emails etc. Stream lining and job cuts are inevitable.

Deal with it, move on.


They need to accept that they arent the people managing the company, they are the sorting monkeys and should get on with their menial little jobs then take their peanuts home and be content.
#10
civms47
Some will, some won't. The problem that will cause is that RM won't have the same money coming in = less jobs available = redundancies. We'll probably get strikes over that too.

Is it just me or are RM workers striking on a regular basis now (not just the past few weeks, but going back over the past 2 or 3 years)? It's pathetic considering you pay for a postal service you don't get. At first I was sympathetic to the workers, but seeing as they strike at the drop of a hat, I'm getting a bit hacked off with them. They should count themselves lucky they've got jobs considering...


i think a few of you are missing the point that the strike isnt over money.......

its over the future plans for the company and what that involves or wont involve for the workers, i dont know enough aboou what goes on behind the scenes but obviously a decision like this cant be taken so lightly........the worker/union know what will happen if they do strike loss of contracts etc etc so there must be more to this than meets the eye imo
banned#11
iNSOMANiAC
They need to accept that they arent the people managing the company, they are the sorting monkeys and should get on with their menial little jobs then take their peanuts home and be content.


Are you in a union (assuming you're employed)?
banned#12
casparwhite
i think a few of you are missing the point that the strike isnt over money.......

its over the future plans for the company and what that involves or wont involve for the workers, i dont know enough aboou what goes on behind the scenes but obviously a decision like this cant be taken so lightly........the worker/union know what will happen if they do strike loss of contracts etc etc so there must be more to this than meets the eye imo


:thumbsup:
#13
FilthAndFurry
Are you in a union (assuming you're employed)?


Whats it got to do with you ? :?

Going to do your usual trick of arguing with people for the sake of it ? :roll:
banned#14
iNSOMANiAC
Whats it got to do with you ? :?

Going to do your usual trick of arguing with people for the sake of it ? :roll:


Just asking a question.:?
#15
Im self employed.
#16
iNSOMANiAC
Whats it got to do with you ? :?

Going to do your usual trick of arguing with people for the sake of it ? :roll:


you're 1 to talk:whistling:
banned#17
iNSOMANiAC
Im self employed.


Is that a no?:?
#18
iNSOMANiAC
They need to accept that they arent the people managing the company, they are the sorting monkeys and should get on with their menial little jobs then take their peanuts home and be content.


the peanuts you refer to is basically the average national wage. cant see how thats so bad!!:thumbsup:
#19
casparwhite
you're 1 to talk:whistling:


I argue with people when I believe what Im saying, whereas your mate does it either from boredom, for attention, or a combination of the two, Ive seen it many times on here. :thumbsup:
#20
People don't go on strike lightly; it costs people a fortune in lost wages (the calculation used for stopping pay often works our more than a days pay). Unions are essential in keeping the balance of power fair, especially in large organisations. Strikes usually only happen when management aren't prepared to negotiate. Perhaps if managers of large organisations started to listen to their employers situations like this could be avoided. The main problem is there is no compromise in business today.
#21
I'm not striking for money its to protect what i think used to be and still could be a good service.
I also like a large amount of the people on my round (so feel a duty to them) and the service because of cuts is becoming useless.
For example every fulltime member of staff who leaves is replaced with part time and also we keep being told about modernisation but we are never told what this entails.
I've been with the company for 20 years by the way and have seen a lot of change.
#22
Support the postal workers!!! Thatcher Out!
#23
iNSOMANiAC
I argue with people when I believe what Im saying, whereas your mate does it either from boredom, for attention, or a combination of the two, Ive seen it many times on here. :thumbsup:


ive seen you argue the toss over nuffin before numerous times also i dont have "mates" on an online forum thanks
#24
Well as a consumer, the strikes along with the 10% stamp increase makes me feel very annoyed. So much in fact that the lot should be sacked & replaced by some people who want to work, theirs enough unemployed to fill gaps, if that threat was there then the rest would work harder with less complaining to keep their jobs!!!
#25
Who said anything about not wanting to work we work bloody hard! what a stupid attitude.
#26
casparwhite
ive seen you argue the toss over nuffin before numerous times also i dont have "mates" on an online forum thanks


Im not sure what 'nuffin' is pickle but you seem to be doing a pretty good job yourself, cheers :thumbsup:
#27
One think is trying to achieve whatever they want to, other is effecting the rest of the country. I wasn't surprise to see Amazon dropping off RM, with more retailers to follow. There's a lot of unhappy people at work, but I'm not sure if strike is the best resolution to the problems ...
#28
iNSOMANiAC
Im not sure what 'nuffin' is pickle but you seem to be doing a pretty good job yourself, cheers :thumbsup:


you seem quite pleased with your self after that last comment yet im not the 1 defending/justifying my actions, cheers:thumbsup:

looks like most people havent even bothered to look into the actual reasons for the strike before commenting
#29
A strike that caused no disruption would be pointless so the fact that so many people are angry and affected by the proposed strike is a clear sign that it may work. Often the threat of a national strike is enough to get management to listen without the need to actually carry the action out. So many posts on here show how ignorant people are to what Royal Mail have done and why the CWU is proposing a strike. Clearly children of Thatcher.
#30
Whats funny is we lost Amazon to TNT but under competition rules we still delivered most of the items so how did they get a better service? Most of Amazons packets are still delivered by Royal Mail and remember if you live in a small town the competitors are not interested no money to be made thats why we need to protect the future.
#31
I agree Stewby, Sometimes you have to have some hassel short term for longer term benefit. I think you will find also your postman cares far more about the service you get than some idiot in a ivory tower.
#32
v2drinkers;6515410
Dont you find it amazing that before Maggie started messing with it, it was a big money maker for the goverment?

surely it was making profits up until labour got in from what I recall?
#33
i think the cwu has 3 months to call an actual date for a strike so im sure they will use this to work something out with Royal Mail managment and hopefully it doesnt come to a strike
#34
littletinyphil
I agree Stewby, Sometimes you have to have some hassel short term for longer term benefit. I think you will find also your postman cares far more about the service you get than some idiot in a ivory tower.



Agreed, my postie always leaves parcels in the shed in the back garden, dry and safe out of sight. HDNL leave parcels (including a £200 hifi) leaning against my front gate where everyone can see them. I am a bit old fashioned and like good personal service; I still have my milk delivered by the milkman, a man comes one a month to clean my windows, I use the local garage for petrol, even if they are 2 or 3 p dearer than the supermarkets. To me the postie fits into this category.
#35
Hopefully it won't happen. All i would like to know is what the plans for modernisation are and what job losses there will be because i don't think Royal Mail bosses know themselves hence the strike.
#36
casparwhite
i think a few of you are missing the point that the strike isnt over money.......

its over the future plans for the company and what that involves or wont involve for the workers, i dont know enough aboou what goes on behind the scenes but obviously a decision like this cant be taken so lightly........the worker/union know what will happen if they do strike loss of contracts etc etc so there must be more to this than meets the eye imo


I don't think I am missing the point, I'm aware of what the strike is over (or as aware as I can be without being directly involved). My complaint is that a strike should be used as a last resort, and all too often over the past few years it appears that theyre becoming the norm. Not good enough imo...
#37
stewby
A strike that caused no disruption would be pointless so the fact that so many people are angry and affected by the proposed strike is a clear sign that it may work. Often the threat of a national strike is enough to get management to listen without the need to actually carry the action out. So many posts on here show how ignorant people are to what Royal Mail have done and why the CWU is proposing a strike. Clearly children of Thatcher.


I agree, a strike that caused no disruption would be pointless. Quite often the anger at the disruption (from the public) is directed at the management/board etc. However this time, it seems alot of people are becoming fed up of postal workers striking and they're fast running out of sympathy.
#38
civms47
I agree, a strike that caused no disruption would be pointless. Quite often the anger at the disruption (from the public) is directed at the management/board etc. However this time, it seems alot of people are becoming fed up of postal workers striking and they're fast running out of sympathy.


Personally I am used to that. I am a teacher and whenever the teaching unions threaten a strike the mdeia blame the teachers not the management or government. Luckily we have only had to strike for one day in the last 3 years as the threat has worked, even if the media portray teachers as lazy layabouts who just want a day off.
#39
If we were asking for money at this time i could understand the anger. The strike vote is to get Royal Mail to outline the future for a service that people take for granted and will miss when the people running it either destroy or sell it off.
#40
civms47
I don't think I am missing the point, I'm aware of what the strike is over (or as aware as I can be without being directly involved). My complaint is that a strike should be used as a last resort, and all too often over the past few years it appears that theyre becoming the norm. Not good enough imo...


strikes certainly arent a new fad mate as im sure anybody who remembers the last tory goverment could tell you, in fact id say there are less now than there used to be thats for sure.

the strike is being used as a l.ast resort.......what do you think has been going on over the last few months in certain areas?

postal workers have my full support as they are the ones who are protecting the bloody service and long term futures, not the people sat in the offices causing all this crap over ill thought out modernisation plans

my mail can wait if it protects the futures of thousands of workers.......which is why i wont be voting conservative:roll:

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