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Samsung Galaxy or HTC Desire???

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banned6y, 5m agoPosted 6 years, 5 months ago
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Long story short........

I've wangled a good deal from Vodafone for an HTC desire. (£20pm for 600 minutes, unlimited text and 500MB Data) which they should have posted last week. Unfortunately, it seems they are now out of stock and have suggested they wont have them again until the end of the month / beginning of next month. I'm not in too much of a hurry, though my PAC expires on the 2nd July......

it dawned on me that I could possibly use this to my advantage. I quite like the look at the Samsung Galaxy (larger and higher res screen + 16GB of RAM) - and could quite probably get this instead of the Desire. (Seems to be about the same value within contracts) - but obviously dont want to do so, if its actually a step down (I dont think it is - but I know bugger all about the phone.... so checking to see if anyone does!)

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banned6y, 5m agoPosted 6 years, 5 months ago
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#1
Desire. Did I tell you they sent me 16gb Card for me Desire too for no reason at all. Just turned up one day.
banned#2
[B]iPhone 4.

Come on guv - Samsung Galaxy?! Wut?!


As stated in another thread, I've had a play with the desire, and its alright. Don't like android much though and the battery life is a lot worse than an iphone.

Hope this helps.

PS: iPhone 4.[/B]
banned#3
Adam2050
Desire. Did I tell you they sent me 16gb Card for me Desire too for no reason at all. Just turned up one day.


No.. but you did say they sent you a 4GB card!

Have you seen the difference between them?
banned#4
vibeone
[B]iPhone 4.

Come on guv - Samsung Galaxy?! Wut?!


As stated in another thread, I've had a play with the desire, and its alright. Don't like android much though and the battery life is a lot worse than an iphone.

Hope this helps.

PS: iPhone 4.[/B]


iPhone 4 is not an option. I hate iTunes and being tied to a proprietary OS and company.

Have you seen the Galaxy and Spec? It wee wee's all over the iPhone.
#5
guv
No.. but you did say they sent you a 4GB card!

Have you seen the difference between them?


Yep looks dirty and cheap for Samsung thats bad. But specs good.

Yeh they sent me one a week or two later just turned up I was like cool.
#6
Desire all the way...absolutely loving mine....but the Galaxy does look pretty good rival...but for HTC sense and a quicker update to froyo I think your best shout would be desire
#7
vibeone
[B]iPhone 4.

Come on guv - Samsung Galaxy?! Wut?!


As stated in another thread, I've had a play with the desire, and its alright. Don't like android much though and the battery life is a lot worse than an iphone.

Hope this helps.

PS: iPhone 4.[/B]


iPhones have a much worse battery life, and are notoriously slow compared to the desire.
The desire is just so smooth and fast, I dont know about the samsung but its a +1 for the desire from me.
banned#8
Adam2050
Yep looks dirty and cheap for Samsung thats bad. But specs good.

Yeh they sent me one a week or two later just turned up I was like cool.


eh? It looks dirty?
#9
guv
eh? It looks dirty?


Plastics wise.

I'm not sure Vibe if the battery you used was faulty. Mines been far better then the Iphone 3G I had, I didn't see a vast improvement on the 3GS either my friend had.

Though I have heard more problems with the battery with the Desire. But then again I can carry a spare and change it when need with the Desire which is a plus.

I prefer the feel of the Iphone 4, but I prefer the simplicity and better O/S of the Android range.
#10
It's a tough one.. You talking about the Samsung Galaxy "S" yeah?

I personally like the way HTC skin Android, plus all the social network integrations they've added themselves..

However..

If you like the Samsung UI - the phone is an absolute monster. The GPU inside it is the next generation on from what even the iPhone 4 has in it's guts (PowerVR SGX540, rather than the 535), it's no small leap either.. 3x faster than the GPU in the iPhone 4. Plus the CPU is an absolute beast aswell..

Then you also get an 8mp camera and a super AMOLED screen, which is pretty close to the quality of the iPhone 4 screen.

Hardware wise, the Samsung Galaxy S is a far superior phone.. Infact hardware wise, it's going to be "high end" for a long long time (i'd say 18 months AT LEAST).
#11
spritey
It's a tough one.. You talking about the Samsung Galaxy "S" yeah?

I personally like the way HTC skin Android, plus all the social network integrations they've added themselves..

However..

If you like the Samsung UI - the phone is an absolute monster. The GPU inside it is the next generation on from what even the iPhone 4 has in it's guts (PowerVR SGX540, rather than the 535), it's no small leap either.. 3x faster than the GPU in the iPhone 4. Plus the CPU is an absolute beast aswell..

Then you also get an 8mp camera and a super AMOLED screen, which is pretty close to the quality of the iPhone 4 screen.

Hardware wise, the Samsung Galaxy S is a far superior phone.. Infact hardware wise, it's going to be "high end" for a long long time (i'd say 18 months AT LEAST).


If this is the case might be worth taking the punt on the samsung. Depending on the use for you. I'd personally get more use of the 8 meg camera then anything.
#12
Samsungs are not bad, my wife loves them. But the build can be a bit iffy on some of them.

You have to think, would it last 18/24 months? They do use very thin plastic etc. . .
#13
To put it in some form of context..

iPhone 3GS / iPhone 4: 28 million triangles/sec
HTC Desire / Nexus One: 22 million triangles/sec
PSP: 33 million triangles/sec
Playstation 2: 66-75 million triangles/sec

Samsung Galaxy "S"................. 90 million triangles/sec

No doubt the next refresh of phones will have the same GPU in a year or so, but for now.. Samsung really have pipped everyone to the post. But then with Android being such a broad platform, i'd imagine most games will be aimed so they can run smoothly on products like the HTC Desire.. So what kind of benefit you see with the Samsung Galaxy "S" in terms of gaming, i've no idea..

I'd imagine you'll only see a couple of games that actually take advantage of the hardware, then again... Android is moving into the tablet space, with tegra making apperances on it.. So you may well see the Samsung Galaxy "S" take advantage of the games made for that platform, which will likely require a higher specification.
#14
The Samsung Galaxy S totally out-classes both the Desire & the iphone4 in terms of hardware, my brother got a Desire last week, it's a great phone, but of course could be better;it doesn't even have a front facing camera so no vid calling :(
banned#15
munaaf
iPhones have a much worse battery life, and are notoriously slow compared to the desire.
The desire is just so smooth and fast, I dont know about the samsung but its a +1 for the desire from me.


Absolute rubbish. Remember I've used one for a couple of weeks. Please don't lie to me because you phone isn't as good as another in certain areas.

I've not said the Desire is a bad phone, but the battery life is much, much, MUCH worse than the 3GS, and you know full well it is.
banned#16
munaaf
iPhones have a much worse battery life, and are notoriously slow compared to the desire.
The desire is just so smooth and fast, I dont know about the samsung but its a +1 for the desire from me.


Adam2050
Plastics wise.

I'm not sure Vibe if the battery you used was faulty. Mines been far better then the Iphone 3G I had, I didn't see a vast improvement on the 3GS either my friend had.

Though I have heard more problems with the battery with the Desire. But then again I can carry a spare and change it when need with the Desire which is a plus.

I prefer the feel of the Iphone 4, but I prefer the simplicity and better O/S of the Android range.


Maybe it was faulty - but theres a hell of a lot of people with faulty batteries if you believe the reports on the internet... BTW, my mistake, but when I say "iPhone" battery is better, I'm talking about the 3GS, since thats what I have.
#17
They're both excellent phones. I've found the Desire to be the best phone I've had to date (including various iPhones, but that's a fruitless debate..)

The Samsung looks superb too, and the display is supposed to be even better than the Desire's, though the Desire's itself is very impressive.

RE: 16GB RAM - it's got 512MB RAM, whereas the Desire has 576MB. The extra in the Desire is supposedly only to allow smooth running of HTC Sense. On the Galaxy you have 2GB to install apps, and Desire has 140MB. Both will increase with Froyo, Samsung's to 8/16GB and Desire's to whatever size SD card you have. The audio quality is supposedly better on the Galaxy and it also supports 720p HD recording. Desire uses the HTC Sense, which I can live without but it's still the best UI I've seen on an Android phone.

Reviews for both phones have been excellent too. I'd love to get my hands on a Galaxy S and try it first hand.

The thing with either phone is that you're tied to the Android Market, which is the big thing Android needs to improve on. There's plenty of great apps, but there's room for lots more!

Overall, I like my Desire and haven't actually used a Galaxy for comparison. From what I've read though, both phones are really impressive and you won't be disappointed with either one.

PS: I'm holding off commenting on the battery thing, again, a fruitless debate.
#18
vibeone
Absolute rubbish. Remember I've used one for a couple of weeks. Please don't lie to me because you phone isn't as good as another in certain areas.

I've not said the Desire is a bad phone, but the battery life is much, much, MUCH worse than the 3GS, and you know full well it is.


Completely wrong i'm afraid

The HTC Desire battery life specification is about on par with the iPhone 3GS, aside from an increase in talk time on the 3GS.. Overall, they're about level.

The problem the HTC Desire has it is does far more in the background, people simply don't know how to configure the phone properly in order to maximize the battery life.. They have email, widgets and all kinds of things trying to grab data all the time.. The iPhone 3GS doesn't have this problem, since it's lacked the functionaility up until now. (Even now, iOS 4 pauses applications rather than runs them in the background - abeit for a few selected processes).

When i got my HTC Desire the battery life was awful, i then decided to switch off the handful of things running. Use an application (Juice Defender) to manage the 3G connection time, so no applications i had forgot to configure would then sup all my battery. Then started to get a good 2-3 days out of it without a problem.

HTC phones in particularly have this problem as they have widgets personally developed by them which give this "always connected" experience, be it through weather, news or social networking. Not to say that's a bad thing, it gives the consumer far more "cool" things to do.. It does however mean people need to be aware of the affect it can have on their battery life, then can change those settings accordingly.

Having an iPhone 3GS 32GB and a HTC Desire - i can say that once the HTC Desire is configured properly to manage data connections at reasonable intervals, the battery life is about the same as iPhone 3GS.
#19
spritey
It's a tough one.. You talking about the Samsung Galaxy "S" yeah?

I personally like the way HTC skin Android, plus all the social network integrations they've added themselves..

However..

If you like the Samsung UI - the phone is an absolute monster. The GPU inside it is the next generation on from what even the iPhone 4 has in it's guts (PowerVR SGX540, rather than the 535), it's no small leap either.. 3x faster than the GPU in the iPhone 4. Plus the CPU is an absolute beast aswell..

Then you also get an 8mp camera and a super AMOLED screen, which is pretty close to the quality of the iPhone 4 screen.

Hardware wise, the Samsung Galaxy S is a far superior phone.. Infact hardware wise, it's going to be "high end" for a long long time (i'd say 18 months AT LEAST).


Agreed. I'm sure I read they aren't going to share the display technology with anyone else for 18 months. Also, the CPU is pretty much the same as iPhone 4's.
#20
spritey
It's a tough one.. You talking about the Samsung Galaxy "S" yeah?

I personally like the way HTC skin Android, plus all the social network integrations they've added themselves..

However..

If you like the Samsung UI - the phone is an absolute monster. The GPU inside it is the next generation on from what even the iPhone 4 has in it's guts (PowerVR SGX540, rather than the 535), it's no small leap either.. 3x faster than the GPU in the iPhone 4. Plus the CPU is an absolute beast aswell..

Then you also get an 8mp camera and a super AMOLED screen, which is pretty close to the quality of the iPhone 4 screen.


Hardware wise, the Samsung Galaxy S is a far superior phone.. Infact hardware wise, it's going to be "high end" for a long long time (i'd say 18 months AT LEAST).



8mp on which phone??? both the desire and Galaxy have 5mp cameras :whistling:
#21
scottydont
8mp on which phone??? both the desire and Galaxy have 5mp cameras :whistling:


You're correct, crikey thought it had 8mp :). Damn, and i'm usaully so clued up on mobile stuff.. I even watched the damn CTIA when they announced it, not my day it seems hehe.
#22
vibeone
Maybe it was faulty - but theres a hell of a lot of people with faulty batteries if you believe the reports on the internet... BTW, my mistake, but when I say "iPhone" battery is better, I'm talking about the 3GS, since thats what I have.


Maybe but I really haven't noticed any diff.

Will be interesting to see what the no.4 has to offer battery life wise but I can't see it making me want to jump on the iphone bandwagon, had one and wanted to sell it as soon as I had it.
#23
Here's a useful video:

Direct comaprison of both phones screens in direct sunlight
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/21/super-amoled-vs-amoled-vs-lcd-in-direct-sunlight-fight/

The desire screen is horrible in direct sunlight . If your a specs junkie the Samsung is the one with the bragging rights of better screen and processor. I had a desire which I sold as I didnt like the look of the phone, battery was poor and not a great fan of sense and not really bothered about the whole custom ROM thing. Blackberry for work and now iPhone 4 for fun.
#24
MrBrightside1987
Agreed. I'm sure I read they aren't going to share the display technology with anyone else for 18 months. Also, the CPU is pretty much the same as iPhone 4's.


Hehe yeah, it's also no doubt the reason why Apple went for IPS... They can say what they want, Super AMOLED is a far better screen technology than they're using... Yes it's 5% better or something pixel density wise, but when it comes to power consumption and contrast etc etc.. Far better.

The future is Super AMOLED, but since Jobs couldnt get his hands on it (Due to Samsung holding exclusivity).. They've gone the IPS route until they are allowed it
#25
spritey
You're correct, crikey thought it had 8mp :). Damn, and i'm usaully so clued up on mobile stuff.. I even watched the damn CTIA when they announced it, not my day it seems hehe.


no probs mate even I was wrong once ;-)
banned#26
Damn... In some respect I was hoping the Desire would be the undoubted choice. (Ive already ordered and received a skin and LCD protector for it!)

I suppose really I need to call them and ask if it would be a viable option! (No point in building hopes up if they're not going to play ball!)
#27
I've NOT read this full thread, but I thought I'd comment. :)

Re battery life, I'm getting a minimum of 2 days full usage. For me that's fine.
My usage is some calls, some text, lots of 3g & wifi, odd go on Paper Toss.

2 days at that isn't to bad !
( don't flame me )
#28
guv
Damn... In some respect I was hoping the Desire would be the undoubted choice. (Ive already ordered and received a skin and LCD protector for it!)

I suppose really I need to call them and ask if it would be a viable option! (No point in building hopes up if they're not going to play ball!)


The main thing lacking on the Galaxy S is an LED flash on the camera.
Both are superb phones and I still don't know which to recommend as both have positives and negatives, though of course the Galaxy is the more futureproof option.
banned#29
MrBrightside1987
The main thing lacking on the Galaxy S is an LED flash on the camera.
Both are superb phones and I still don't know which to recommend as both have positives and negatives, though of course the Galaxy is the more futureproof option.


The camera side of things has never really bothered me to be honest.

Tried to get some opinions through Voda from CS or sales people that have used it (or both) and its been like pulling teeth.
#30
camera wise the desire is good in normal and bright lighting conditions. Its a problem that at a recent visit to chester zoo I could barely see what pictures I was taking due to the screen being 'dark' in sunlight, when I got home synced the pictures and they were the best I've had from a phone. Incidentally I took some night photos and synced those and the quality was grainy when uploaded but I could see what I was taking on the screen perfectly well to take them!!
#31
I like the look (and the spec) of the Samsung, but doesn't the 4 inch screen make it a bit big?

I played with an LG with a 4 inch screen a while back and while it was very nice, its not very pocket friendly.
banned#32
spritey
Completely wrong i'm afraid


Spritey, don't start off like that - or I will make a complete fool of you again on a similar topic to last time.

Moving on....


spritey

The HTC Desire battery life specification is about on par with the iPhone 3GS, aside from an increase in talk time on the 3GS.. Overall, they're about level.

The problem the HTC Desire has it is does far more in the background, people simply don't know how to configure the phone properly in order to maximize the battery life.. They have email, widgets and all kinds of things trying to grab data all the time.. The iPhone 3GS doesn't have this problem, since it's lacked the functionaility up until now. (Even now, iOS 4 pauses applications rather than runs them in the background - abeit for a few selected processes).

When i got my HTC Desire the battery life was awful, i then decided to switch off the handful of things running. Use an application (Juice Defender) to manage the 3G connection time, so no applications i had forgot to configure would then sup all my battery. Then started to get a good 2-3 days out of it without a problem.

HTC phones in particularly have this problem as they have widgets personally developed by them which give this "always connected" experience, be it through weather, news or social networking. Not to say that's a bad thing, it gives the consumer far more "cool" things to do.. It does however mean people need to be aware of the affect it can have on their battery life, then can change those settings accordingly.

Having an iPhone 3GS 32GB and a HTC Desire - i can say that once the HTC Desire is configured properly to manage data connections at reasonable intervals, the battery life is about the same as iPhone 3GS.


Now then where to start. The following 2 things don't bother me, but considering how picky non-appley types get about the iPhone, they should be mentioned. For a start, with the Desire it seems as though an app killer app is almost a required download. Thats poor, but no biggy. Also, you say "completely wrong" then say that if you turn various bits and bobs off, you can get battery life comparable to a 3GS. You know that makes absolutely no sense.

The Desire does a whole heap of stuff (weather app syncing every few mins, bbc rss etc etc), but whats the point when, I hope you'll agree, in its out-of-box setup the battery life is horrific?

I accept that when I turned the brightness down (which defaults to Max), turned weather updates off, turned other bits and bobs off/down, then you can get it about the same as the 3GS. But then the 3GS is sat giving me push notifications for email, rather than connecting to the server to check, all in the same battery life.

Oh and one final thing, you are comparing a new(ish) phone to the 3GS, which is a year old. Compare it to the iPhone 4 battery, and it'll be miles down.

As I've said before, I've got a lot of respect for HTC, and have used their phones for years and years before my 3GS. I'm not a fanboy (unless I'm trolling :P ) but you post is unfair and wrong.

inb4 "completely wrong", and my rebuttal correcting you.
banned#33
Adam2050
Maybe but I really haven't noticed any diff.

Will be interesting to see what the no.4 has to offer battery life wise but I can't see it making me want to jump on the iphone bandwagon, had one and wanted to sell it as soon as I had it.


Meh, dude, look, its a great phone (the desire). I'm not trying to get you on any bandwagon :P I genuinely don't consider myself a fanboy - if something better comes along (in my opinion) - i'll switch :thumbsup: I have no loyalty to apple - just to the best product.
#34
vibeone
Absolute rubbish. Remember I've used one for a couple of weeks. Please don't lie to me because you phone isn't as good as another in certain areas.

I've not said the Desire is a bad phone, but the battery life is much, much, MUCH worse than the 3GS, and you know full well it is.


I have a iphone 2g, a iphone 3g and a desire.
and I am comparing it to either iphone.. it has a better battery life. lol
I dont know if you have many apps on your iphone or not, but obviously thats a big factor.

I dont know how much more of a improvement the 3GS has but, compared to the 3G particularly (because both use 3G) it clearly has a better battery life. I like my iPhones, don't get me wrong but don't tell me I am wrong.

EDIT: Just read your post two up, and that's what I mean, I dont have all those things syncing and unneccasery stuff, so I get a much longer battery life than 'out of box'.
#35
vibeone
Meh, dude, look, its a great phone (the desire). I'm not trying to get you on any bandwagon :P I genuinely don't consider myself a fanboy - if something better comes along (in my opinion) - i'll switch :thumbsup: I have no loyalty to apple - just to the best product.


Good just don't get stung by them.

Everyone likes things for different things.

Your Ipad for example I would never consider buying one, but I wish I'd entered now to just have one.
banned#36
Adam2050
Good just don't get stung by them.

Everyone likes things for different things.

Your Ipad for example I would never consider buying one, but I wish I'd entered now to just have one.


Haha I'd never buy one either (seriously - its overpriced) - but theres no way anyones gonna take it off me now! It's epic!
#37
vibeone

Haha I'd never buy one either (seriously - its overpriced) - but theres no way anyones gonna take it off me now! It's epic!


Indeed, are you infront of the TV while on Iphone X LARGE
banned#38
Adam2050
Indeed, are you infront of the TV while on Iphone X LARGE


Not at the moment adam - I'm at work. Some of us have to! (he says, sat in front of TVCatchup)
#39
vibeone
Not at the moment adam - I'm at work. Some of us have to! (he says, sat in front of TVCatchup)


Work from home :whistling: :oops:
#40
I'd say its a toss up between the Desire and the iphone 4 but if you hate itunes so much it kinda narrows it down a bit!! To be truthful I don't know a thing about the Galaxy and the spec sounds amazing but the last phone I had was a touch screen Sammy and it's put me off buying another for a long long time...It's just personal preference I guess.

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