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The Government has scrapped SAT exams for 14-year-olds following a marking fiasco which left thousands of children without test results this summer. Schools Secretary Ed Balls announced that they w… Read More
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8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
The Government has scrapped SAT exams for 14-year-olds following a marking fiasco which left thousands of children without test results this summer.

Schools Secretary Ed Balls announced that they would be replaced by more frequent classroom assessments by teachers in years 7, 8 and 9.

The Key Stage 3 tests - introduced by the Tories in 1993 - had become "less and less relevant", he said.

Mr Balls said: "We need a more intensive focus in the early years."

He stressed that the compulsory national testing of 11-year-olds at Key Stage 2 were "here to stay".

He said "radical reforms" would also include the introduction of US-style "school report cards" for all primary and secondary schools.

The Qualifications and Curriculum Authority terminated its contract with ETS - the US company responsible for the marking - in August.

Some results were delayed; some pupils were told that they had been marked as absent when the tests were taken, even though they did sit them.

Some schools had scripts returned unmarked, other scripts were sent to the wrong schools.

Some teachers also complained about the quality of marking.

Margaret Morrisey, of parents group Parents Outloud who used to work as an Ofsted lay inspector, said abandoning the tests was the "first sensible thing Mr Balls has done since becoming Schools Secretary".

She said: "He should now scrap the whole lot.

"We are teaching the children to take these tests and supposing that all children are the same."

An independent inquiry into the delays, led by Lord Sutherland, is due to report back later this year.
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#2
yeh and i wish they would scrap the rest too-my little guy will have them next year at age 7, and i really dont approve. They pressurise the kids-DONT HAVE TIME OFF TELL YOUR MUM-etc...its really bad. When my daughter was due to take hers we went on holiday. Maybe im wrong but i cant find a reason for these things.
#3
Ed Balls, teeeheeeheheheee.
banned#4
totally agree, biggest pile of pooh to ever come out, the children should be marked throughout their year, not pushed by the teacher for a few weeks out of the year
#5
just told my son in year 9 and he is very happy, thanks Tom :)
#6
sassie
totally agree, biggest pile of pooh to ever come out, the children should be marked throughout their year, not pushed by the teacher for a few weeks out of the year


my little guy has Noonan syndrome-he could read at age 3 but is behind with understanding of some things...anyway this year he was taking a few days off for our hols and he was soo worried as the teacher had told the class dont take time off on this one week as they had a maths test-i was disgusted-we had to pacify him. Pressure at age 5 just isnt right..and it wont happen next year to him as he wont be there for it:)
#7
My eldest took to sleepwalking for her SATS at age 7, we tried everything to convince her they were unimportant but the teachers were there putting major pressure on them, we ended up telling her that their only importance was to the teacher cos the tests helped see if the teacher was doing their job properly. The tests are bad enough but teachers piling the pressure onto seven year olds should be told to stop.
#8
louloo
yeh and i wish they would scrap the rest too-my little guy will have them next year at age 7, and i really dont approve. They pressurise the kids-DONT HAVE TIME OFF TELL YOUR MUM-etc...its really bad. When my daughter was due to take hers we went on holiday. Maybe im wrong but i cant find a reason for these things.


How inconvenient hey?!! :roll:

SATS allow the school and teachers to truley asses which level the children are at. It then determines their class for maths and english. If you miss the tests, your child may get put in to a class which is not really suitable for him (may it be too difficult, or easy for him).

Not saying i agree or dissagree with SATS, especially at how often children are tested. However it does have a big impact on your childrens education.
banned#9
ajay87
How inconvenient hey?!! :roll:

SATS allow the school and teachers to truley asses which level the children are at. It then determines their class for maths and english. If you miss the tests, your child may get put in to a class which is not really suitable for him (may it be too difficult, or easy for him).

Not saying i agree or dissagree with SATS, especially at how often children are tested. However it does have a big impact on your childrens education.


Im sorry but that is not why sats where made, it was about how well the teachers where doing and nothing to do witha childs abilities
#10
so do u kids in year 9 at the moment have to do sat's thuis year?
#11
sassie
Im sorry but that is not why sats where made, it was about how well the teachers where doing and nothing to do witha childs abilities


That seems to be the consensus of opinion from all the teachers I know. It also explains the level of pressure put on kids to "perform" weel in these tests, its pure self interest!
#12
mum2b
so do u kids in year 9 at the moment have to do sat's thuis year?


Hope not, my 14 year old is now dancing round the living room texting her friends to tell them exams are off.:-D
#13
sassie
Im sorry but that is not why sats where made, it was about how well the teachers where doing and nothing to do witha childs abilities


I work in a school, and whilst yes, teaching staff are judged on the outcome of the results they are also used for your childs benefit.
banned#14
ajay87
I work in a school, and whilst yes, teaching staff are judged on the outcome of the results they are mainly used for your childs benefit.


I am sorry but this is total bull

My daughter has been in top divisions all through her schooling years, and at juniors and senior she was assessed there and then before going into what division she was capable of, and yes she sat all the sats, so please these sats are nothing to do with anything other than teachers, as said children should be encouragd throughout the year not just the couple of weeks the sats are on
#15
i beasted year 9 sats, mean nout anyway
#16
ajay87
I work in a school, and whilst yes, teaching staff are judged on the outcome of the results they are also used for your childs benefit.


rubbish as i was actually told by one reasonable teacher not to worry-that they would use the predicted grades(the ones the teacher actually assesses!
What position do you hold?
#17
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#18
sassie
I am sorry but this is total bull

My daughter has been in top divisions all through her schooling years, and at juniors and senior she was assessed there and then before going into what division she was capable of, and yes she sat all the sats, so please these sats are nothing to do with anything other than teachers, as said children should be encouragd throughout the year not just the couple of weeks the sats are on


but they dont stream kids at age 7 in our school anyway...so what's the benefit? just league tables results for schools to put in the prospectus and a feather in the caps of the teachers:x
Anyway im really happy i wont have to avoid the later sats!!!!!
#19
F&%K YOU!! LOL i sat through lessons teachers banging about sats and how important they are and know you dont have to do it. :oops::x
Rant over
#20
strike
F&%K YOU!! LOL i sat through lessons teachers banging about sats and how important they are and know you dont have to do it. :oops::x
Rant over


yeh exactly-will you want your kids to do the same??
#21
louloo
rubbish as i was actually told by one reasonable teacher not to worry-that they would use the predicted grades(the ones the teacher actually assesses!
What position do you hold?


I actually deal with data entry and statistics of the SAT tests (as well as teaching and supporting IT related classes).

Look, i've only worked in the one school - schools may be different in the way they use their data.
#22
SATS are a good entry level to GCSE.
#23
I must state too, the school i work at is a Primary School. The data is used there at all ages to see which children may need extra help, setting in a different class for a certain subject, or indeed subject area they may be weak on.

In secondary school, from my experiance SATs are important in setting your child in to a relevant English, Science and Maths group. Obviously, at this stage their next and last two years of compulsary education involve their chosen subjects as well as English, Maths, and Science - (which are the three compulsary tests at 14 years old). The test results should reflect their ability in that subject area, thus putting them in a correct class to suit their ability.

I do agree with the comments about the pressure on the children for these tests. I think in a secondary school it will be slightly different, but i know in the primary schools i've had experiance in there is less pressure put on the children for SAT tests.

The children should simply be told to try their best, that it will provide a reflection of their ability and will have an impact on their future education.
#24
SATS are a load of tosh. trying to say that they are for the benefit of the child, sorry but b*llox. why on earth would you spend the 6 weeks before SATS banging on to your students to practise for them if was to benefit them in anyway. my daughter was made to do massive amounts of home study for hers, how does that give 'a true reflection' of where a child is? all it shows is what they they can learn frantically in 6 weeks.
#25
LOL SATS. THOSE WERE THE DAYS.
everyone got really worried. then realised they meant nothing at all. too much stress on kids thats not needed.
#26
Mclovin
LOL SATS. THOSE WERE THE DAYS.
everyone got really worried. then realised they meant nothing at all. too much stress on kids thats not needed.


hi-how are you doing? hows your driving:roll:
#27
what a load of er balls, if the incompetentant b* weren't SAT on their jacksie it could have been resolved.
#28
Would have thought it better to stop the primary SATS first, as those aged 14 are more able to cope with SATS.

Son in Y9, told SATS will stop after Y9 so looks like those in Y9 now will have to do them BUT after that no more SATS for 14 yr olds
#29
My son just done his great what a pissing waste of time that was :x

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