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School Uniforms do nothing for children. They just make some adults feel happy.

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6y, 4m agoPosted 6 years, 4 months ago
It seems almost universally accepted that Compulsory School Uniforms are a good thing. Improving schools and encouraging discipline.

I think this is absolute rubbish with no basis in fact.

My children go to an brilliant local school primary school where uniform is optional. However every time a new head comes they have to go through this stupid process by partly intimidation, partly misinformation and mostly coercion to try and make everyone wear the stupid stuff. After a couple of years they give up. Meanwhile the school is doing great and has a wonderful spirit and atmosphere, as well as all the other things that uniform is supposed to bring.

In my opinion uniforms get in the way of

Children thinking for themselves

Developing their individuality

Becoming independent free thinkers

Unless they are destined for a life in the services, prison or a fascist organisation, wearing a uniform does not help them in any way.

The one argument I hear from parents is it stops arguments in the morning when they are going to school. Well it seems to me if you can't have these discussions with your children as they grow up then you need to sort that out between yourselves. You should not be forcing other families who are willing to deal with this and give guidance and boundaries to pay for your problems.

Fine if you want your child to wear uniform, but why force others.
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#1
as far as im concerned it makes no difference either way
banned 1 Like #2
I disagree, i think a uniform does alot for a school and its pupils, and also stops the rediculous items of clothing some morons would send their children to school in

oh and my children wearing a uniform doesnt make me happy or unhappy, but who they are makes me happy and proud
#3
Not to mention at our school its £5 a polo shirt and £8 for a cardigan ffs.

I've got 2 to buy for this year too, stupid school prices.
#4
do you have a life?
#5
I was made to do a coursework piece on this once...

basically imo it should be optional. The price of school uniform is extortinate but it does stop getting better clothes wrecked. The positives can nearly always be counterbalanced by a negative.
1 Like #6
i actually quite liked mine, it made me feel smart, i still have my ties, blazer and shirt with messages etc from the last day, loads of good memories from them so im glad i had a uniform
#7
GentleTouch
I was made to do a coursework piece on this once...

basically imo it should be optional. The price of school uniform is extortinate but it does stop getting better clothes wrecked. The positives can nearly always be counterbalanced by a negative.


At our school its a mustardy coloured polo shirt with the school badge and a horrible red cardigan again with the badge on, they don't have a tie option at the school so I can't send my kids to school with a white shirt or that on.

I'm happy for my kids to wear school uniform but it sickens me when I can buy 5 polo shirts in Asda for £5 which would give them one for every day of the week or £25 for 5 with the school badge.
banned 2 Likes #8
It stops the poorer kids from being bullied for not wearing the latest trainers and designer clothes.
#9
slamdunkin
It stops the poorer kids from being bullied for not wearing the latest trainers and designer clothes.


i have never heard of anyone getting bullied for those reasons, wouldnt have happened at my school
#10
The "reason" many schools give for this(not that I am convinced) is that parents get put under more and more pressure to buy designer gear/training shoes etc so that children can "fit in with the crowd".So the idea is,if you take the choice away and everyone wears the same then this peer pressure doesnt exist.

I am all for children becoming "independant free thinkers",but it isnt as simple as that maybe-if kids want a certain brand of training shoe/jacket etc,for a legitimate reason,that is one thing,but if they want them because "their friends have them",then thats a bad thing surely?
#11
I think school uniform is a good thing - it makes everyone the same so there isn't any competition in who has the best brand/newest/coolest clothing which will keep some bullying away from the playground, also it lets children know when is school time for learning and when is home time for fun, also makes the children look smarter (in clothing, not in mind!) and shows them how they should look later in life when getting a real job (ok, I know some jobs don't need a uniform or smart clothing, but the majority of jobs will do).
#12
I like the fact my kids have to wear uniform to school - its only the sweatshirt and polo shirt - but its smart and comfy too. Also saves their own clothes getting wrecked with painting etc. They're not that expensive as I only buy the school sweatshirts and buy plain packs of polo shirts for underneath as no one sees them anyway.
#13
I reckon its just so the schools can make more money, it seems to be that as long as the kids have their polo shirt/cardigan or jumper on then they can wear whatever they like bottom half, including trainers etc at ours and this is only primary.
#14
Surely we don't expect young children to learn that the best way to express their identity is through consumer fashion? Better that they learn that clothes don't communicate who you are?

Without a uniform children (and sadly some parents) will become competitive over wearing the latest (and often ridiculous) things. As slamdunkin points out, a uniform prevents this. For young children it's handy on school trips too. It's only a problem where schools insist on expensive uniforms (rather than, say, just a colour scheme)
#15
slamdunkin
It stops the poorer kids from being bullied for not wearing the latest trainers and designer clothes.
poorer ones are given a grant to buy clothes, mine wear uniform looks smart but it is not designer and mine have never been bullied and the oldest is now in 5th year.
banned#16
wulshaz
slamdunkin
It stops the poorer kids from being bullied for not wearing the latest trainers and designer clothes.

poorer ones are given a grant to buy clothes, mine wear uniform looks smart but it is not designer and mine have never been bullied and the oldest is now in 5th year.


that is not the case for most, certain areas the local authority may give this out but it certainly isnt gven in all areas
#17
"Unless they are destined for a life in the services, prison or a fascist organisation"

Because they're the only places people will ever wear uniforms in their adult life.......

Personally I never really minded either way about school uniform, they were getting alot better when I left school, with sweatshirts etc, rather than always wearing blazers/shirts&ties.....
#18
Unless they are destined for a life in the services, prison or a fascist organisation, wearing a uniform does not help them in any way.
Urm most jobs have a dress code of some sort, be it uniform or smart but casual. You cant just where what you want in the majority of jobs.

The bullying aspect does hold up, even back when I was at school if a kid came in with crap trainers they would be mullered, and this was 20 years ago.

Bear in mind you are basing this on your experiences of primary school, where in truth, it's not that important. Secondary school is much worse.
#19
i thought it was a government funding and not just certain areas ie if you earn under a certain amount and/or you are recieving certain benefits
banned#20
In my opinion uniforms get in the way of

Children thinking for themselves

Developing their individuality

Becoming independent free thinkers


Which wouldn't probably be backed up by looking at people who are 'free-thinking individuals', Mr 'I buy extreme ideology wholesale'.
banned#21
AshleyRFC
Not to mention at our school its £5 a polo shirt and £8 for a cardigan ffs.

I've got 2 to buy for this year too, stupid school prices.


I don't think my Son has a none school tshirt that cost under a fiver, Next T-shirts are at least a tenner usually and even Asda's seem to be over a fiver so I have no qualms in paying school uniform prices.
banned#22
wulshaz
slamdunkin
It stops the poorer kids from being bullied for not wearing the latest trainers and designer clothes.

poorer ones are given a grant to buy clothes, mine wear uniform looks smart but it is not designer and mine have never been bullied and the oldest is now in 5th year.


Designer school uniforms??
#23
Its stops kids from lower income families being bullied as they are not wearing designer clothes,also good for discipline and order.

As simple as that.

Another simple subject blown out of all proportion and turned into something its not by the "revolutionary socialist" op
#24
its called discipline.

/thread
1 Like #25
[quote=kaks26]I like the fact my kids have to wear uniform to school - its only the sweatshirt and polo shirt - but its smart and comfy too. Also saves their own clothes getting wrecked with painting etc. They're not that expensive as I only buy the school sweatshirts and buy plain packs of polo shirts for underneath as no one sees them anyway.[/quotte]

Totally agree with you on this one kaks, i think my kids look smart and cute in uniform , and glad there school have a policy , yes you can buy the more expensive polo's, sweatshirts with school badge on but not neccessary ( bought all that when daughter started school and learnt my lesson !) they go missing , get stained, etc so as long as you stick to the colour code then fine and fairly cheap to buy , imo , and it just makes the school look smarter i think ? i totally agree with uniform , kids have enough time out of school to express !! themselves if need be in what they wear ! **** my son would wanna go to school dressd as darth vader if that was the case . lol
#26
master_chief
AshleyRFC
Not to mention at our school its £5 a polo shirt and £8 for a cardigan ffs.

I've got 2 to buy for this year too, stupid school prices.


I don't think my Son has a none school tshirt that cost under a fiver, Next T-shirts are at least a tenner usually and even Asda's seem to be over a fiver so I have no qualms in paying school uniform prices.


Depends on the age of your kids, but the Next polo shirts we buy are 3 for £6.50 / 3 for £7.50.... the proper school polo shirts our £8 each by us.

It's not just the cost of the proper school ones though, it's the quality of them (especially the jumpers)..... they don't last half as long as the ones from Next.
#28
LOVE UNIFORM.
makes getting them dressed easy in the morning (sons are 3 and 6) and they look really smart. although is stupidly pricey at £58 a blazer!! but then i send them to private school and it sure pays off, they have caps and they take them off when they see a teacher to say good morning and when leaving. school is heavily involved with the church next door which i think is very good, even though im a muslim, as the kids are all prety decent and respectful.

shame the school is only till 11. can transfer to the other independent school till 18 but thats verrrry pricey so im hoping they carry on with what they learnt post 11?!

anyways my point is, kids should have freedom but also being in a slightly 'organised' school which has old skool mentality is actually forming a solid base for them.
banned#29
midlandscomics
master_chief
AshleyRFC
Not to mention at our school its £5 a polo shirt and £8 for a cardigan ffs.

I've got 2 to buy for this year too, stupid school prices.


I don't think my Son has a none school tshirt that cost under a fiver, Next T-shirts are at least a tenner usually and even Asda's seem to be over a fiver so I have no qualms in paying school uniform prices.


Depends on the age of your kids, but the Next polo shirts we buy are 3 for £6.50 / 3 for £7.50.... the proper school polo shirts our £8 each by us.

It's not just the cost of the proper school ones though, it's the quality of them (especially the jumpers)..... they don't last half as long as the ones from Next.


Sorry I meant none uniform items, normal everyday clothing. Yeah you can buy much cheaper generic uniform items which further negates the point made by Ashley.
#30
we have 3 to buy for and at the end of the day its up to the parents what and where they buy it we dont have to go through the school as there are a couple of places that sell the uniform and its cheaper than the school but seen as i dont recieve any benefits (i mean before anyone says anything i dont get the grant money for them) i normally try and get a few things in each week to make it more managable.
#31
casparwhite
its called discipline./thread

yep !, thumbsup
banned#32
You had the choice to send your kids to a different school if you don't like school uniforms. Maybe you should have considered this first before whining now or has this uniform been introduced since your child started?

Personally, I think school uniforms are a good thing. Some parents can't afford nice clothes and their kids end up getting teased. I think that's probably something you should be taking into account.
#33
you can get good deals on uniforms in most supermarkets now


im quite glad mine wear uniform, saves wear and tear on their clothes lol!
#34
barky
The "reason" many schools give for this(not that I am convinced) is that parents get put under more and more pressure to buy designer gear/training shoes etc so that children can "fit in with the crowd".So the idea is,if you take the choice away and everyone wears the same then this peer pressure doesnt exist.I am all for children becoming "independant free thinkers",but it isnt as simple as that maybe-if kids want a certain brand of training shoe/jacket etc,for a legitimate reason,that is one thing,but if they want them because "their friends have them",then thats a bad thing surely?

+1 How a school uniform stops primary school children becoming independant free thinkers is beyond me.
1 Like #35
when we have non uniform days to raise money this sometimes causes problems with kids coming in with all the designer gear on so i think it is better to have school uniform and keep everyone equal and it is smart looking and also promotes the school when on outings ect...
#36
wulshaz
we have 3 to buy for and at the end of the day its up to the parents what and where they buy it we dont have to go through the school as there are a couple of places that sell the uniform and its cheaper than the school but seen as i dont recieve any benefits (i mean before anyone says anything i dont get the grant money for them) i normally try and get a few things in each week to make it more managable.

yeh i do the same , i get skirts , pinafores, trousers in advance ( especially if on sale ) and then leave the ' most expensive one ' until just before they go back in sept THE SHOES !!, LOL
#37
I think the op's username says it all really.
#38
guv
You had the choice to send your kids to a different school if you don't like school uniforms. Maybe you should have considered this first before whining now or has this uniform been introduced since your child started?

Personally, I think school uniforms are a good thing. Some parents can't afford nice clothes and their kids end up getting teased. I think that's probably something you should be taking into account.


But for me its not the fact that the kids have to wear uniform, I'm happy for them to wear uniform, its the fact that their uniform must have the school badges on which means you can't buy cheaper polo shirts/cardigans because its blatantly obvious that its not the school ones.

If it was just a case of ok we'll have yellow t shirts and red jumpers/cardigans then fine, I can buy better quality ones for the money, my oldest daughter(6) went through quite a few polo shirts last year because they became bobbled very quickly, the cardigan easily goes out of shape also.

And at our school the kids still come to school with designer coats, bags and shoes even though the uniform is in place, but as I said if the kids have the polo shirt and cardigan with the badge then they can wear whatever else they like.
#39
wulshaz
when we have non uniform days to raise money this sometimes causes problems with kids coming in with all the designer gear on so i think it is better to have school uniform and keep everyone equal and it is smart looking and also promotes the school when on outings ect...

Excactly what i was going to say , i hate non uniform day !!!!, like a fashion parade for my daughter the night before and shes only just 10 !!, imagine that everyday ? ......................nightmare !

And ive helped out on a lot of school trips and always think how smart they all look and a good representation of the school and also makes it easier for teachers , helpers to identify the pupils ,!
#40
ou school pimary is like all in the area-they sell the uniform with logos but i dont buy it(i did for reception but it was poor quality) luckily its navy jumpers-white polos and grey/black pants.
i now buy plain fom cheaper suppliers.
It would annoy me if they had to have logos..its a money-making thing (and the schools dont get a bg cut the supplier does.
Magicbeans my son went to a private school through scholarship but he got a grant as he had a scholarship..it cost back then £250+ for winter uniform not including cricket whites as the blazer was around £50 and the rugby shirts cost around £80 for 3 and that was 15years ago! Its not just the fees that are extortionate.

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