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Science Disproving Myths & Legends. Are We Losing Something?

Aeschylus Avatar
4y, 3w agoPosted 4 years, 3 weeks ago
I watched a show last night on discovery where they were able to disprove all the myths around the Bermuda Triangle to all but the "die hards"

When I was watching I was fasinated how modern science was able to show what happened, then I thought perhaps it is a little sad?

There are simply no myths left, are there?

I watched a show last year where the deep scanned the whole of the Loch Ness to dis prove that.

The Shroud of Turin was also busted recently when they were allowed to carbon date it..

Obviously there is the Bible, but will leave that there, before the religious crowd come out..

clairvoyants who have agreed to be tested have all failed, so much so a 1 million prize tag remains unclaimed.

Lets have a list of Myths that have not been solved. I appreciate there will always be people who dont accept the science.
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4y, 3w agoPosted 4 years, 3 weeks ago
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matman12
danmc
No matter how ridiculous the myth or how conclusive the contrary evidence there will always be naive, deluded and weak minded people ready to believe it.

Religion being the prime example.
Arrogant ass

I wouldn't say arrogant, however it is surprisingly pert.
banned 8 Likes
Scientists read millions of books and realise just how little they know and strive to learn more

Religious nut reads one book and think they know everything.

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#1
What's the myth with Bermuda Triangle? Isn't it true that stuff sinks there and it's due to the air being release underwater? Or is that the myth?
#2
Benjimoron
What's the myth with Bermuda Triangle? Isn't it true that stuff sinks there and it's due to the air being release underwater? Or is that the myth?
Its more of a Hexagon, true story.....:p
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No matter how ridiculous the myth or how conclusive the contrary evidence there will always be naive, deluded and weak minded people ready to believe it.

Religion being the prime example.
#4
I know what you mean. On the one hand, I actually like the idea of solving mysteries, especially within my lifetime. Things like the Turin Shroud for example, it's like a nice conclusion to the story, and I like conclusions to my tories.

On the other though, there still are lots of mysteries out there, and some of them are still live, too. The main source of mystery these days is conspiracy theory, of which there are plenty kicking about. Mad oddities do surface some times, too. The spiral in the sky above somewhere in Scandinavia is one that springs to mind, and there have been various accounts of unrecognisable monsters washing up dead on various beaches. There's also still an active and interesting mystery surrounding the paranormal, in terms of psychic ability and the collective unconcious, too.

Hit youtube. Search for mysteries. There are tonnes of paths to follow in there that can take you through some crazy alternative solutions and mysteries. I was watching a feature on the hollow earth theory yesterday, and that's something I'd definitely recommend you search for.
#5
Well if anyone knows what happened to the cup of tea I made on March 25th 2009 i'd be prepared to reward you with up to 4 jaffa cakes.
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mykejayy
Well if anyone knows what happened to the cup of tea I made on March 25th 2009 i'd be prepared to reward you with up to 4 jaffa cakes.


Milk or plain chocolate Jaffa Cakes?

Hang on... is this a trick?... There is a myth that they are not cakes, but they are biscuits.
#7
@whats ThePoint I'll stretch to 5 jaffas and a night with Churchill.

*subject to approval

@fanpages I never thought about it like that, a myth within a myth. Hmm (they are milk chocolate though) I'll need to work this out.
1 Like #8
danmc
No matter how ridiculous the myth or how conclusive the contrary evidence there will always be naive, deluded and weak minded people ready to believe it.

Religion being the prime example.
Arrogant ass
9 Likes #9
matman12
danmc
No matter how ridiculous the myth or how conclusive the contrary evidence there will always be naive, deluded and weak minded people ready to believe it.

Religion being the prime example.
Arrogant ass

I wouldn't say arrogant, however it is surprisingly pert.
banned#10
mykejayy
@whats ThePoint I'll stretch to 5 jaffas and a night with Churchill.

*subject to approval

@fanpages I never thought about it like that, a myth within a myth. Hmm (they are milk chocolate though) I'll need to work this out.

Cakes go hard when they're off, biscuits go soft.

Jaffa Cakes go hard, therefore they are cakes. VAT is payable on chocolate covered biscuits but not chocolate covered cakes, so a lucky escape for Jaffa there!
#11
My most best unsolved mystery that i hope they will solve but the time i pass away.

The Oak Island Money
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island

What is buried they no one know many say it is William Shakespeare's lost works.Some say the Chalice is there and others say it was the treasure of captain Kidd.One thing we all know is that whoever built it was extremely clever that even todays technology can't retrieve whats down there.

If you have never heard of Oak Island you will now be hooked sorry lol
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danmc
No matter how ridiculous the myth or how conclusive the contrary evidence there will always be naive, deluded and weak minded people ready to believe it.

Religion being the prime example.

I'm religious but one of the biggest criticisms of faith groups has long been their self righteous, my way or the highway approach. Nice to see therefore you indulge in just the same kind of conduct by telling people what they should or shouldn't believe in. If it's not someone preaching about what I should believe in, it's someone preaching about what I shouldn't.
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brett1985
I'm religious but one of the biggest criticisms of faith groups has long been their self righteous, my way or the highway approach. Nice to see therefore you indulge in just the same kind of conduct by telling people what they should or shouldn't believe in. If it's not someone preaching about what I should believe in, it's someone preaching about what I shouldn't.

I'd never tell anyone what they should and shouldn't believe, that's their own business. All I'm saying is you would have to be a complete and utter **** idiot to believe it.
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matman12
danmc
No matter how ridiculous the myth or how conclusive the contrary evidence there will always be naive, deluded and weak minded people ready to believe it.

Religion being the prime example.
Arrogant ass

How is being correct arrogant?
#15
Osama Bin Ladens death. - Myth
1 Like #16
mykejayy
@whats ThePoint I'll stretch to 5 jaffas and a night with Churchill.

*subject to approval

@fanpages I never thought about it like that, a myth within a myth. Hmm (they are milk chocolate though) I'll need to work this out.
KillFelix
Cakes go hard when they're off, biscuits go soft.

Jaffa Cakes go hard, therefore they are cakes. VAT is payable on chocolate covered biscuits but not chocolate covered cakes, so a lucky escape for Jaffa there!


Cheesecake goes soft, but the biscuit base goes hard.

Myths are confusing.
banned#17
Regarding mysteries, there are still PLENTY of undiscovered things out there. We've not even explored the deep sea yet. And then there's space. Planets, moons, suns, solar systems and galaxies.

All the things you mentioned, Bermuda, Turin, Nessie, Bigfoot etc are silly since they are mostly fakes and forgeries based on folklore and old wives tales, which in my opinion makes them dull, pointless and a massive waste of time. Of course I would love to find that nessie is real, but with zero evidence to support it thus far I'm not wasting any more time getting my hopes up. The truth and the path to find it is a billion times more fascinating.
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danmc
No matter how ridiculous the myth or how conclusive the contrary evidence there will always be naive, deluded and weak minded people ready to believe it.

Religion being the prime example.
brett1985

I'm religious

Yep.
#19
in a flock of over a hundred thousand starlings why do none collide when they suddenly turn?
Same with fish
science cannot explain suicide amongst lemmings
or why ballotelli is mad as a a hatter
1 Like #20
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/184735534_cd65d85f6b.jpg
#21
danmc
brett1985
I'm religious but one of the biggest criticisms of faith groups has long been their self righteous, my way or the highway approach. Nice to see therefore you indulge in just the same kind of conduct by telling people what they should or shouldn't believe in. If it's not someone preaching about what I should believe in, it's someone preaching about what I shouldn't.

I'd never tell anyone what they should and shouldn't believe, that's their own business. All I'm saying is you would have to be a complete and utter **** idiot to believe it.

Sorry Dan but I reckon when you choose to strongly insult someones belief in favor of another way of thinking then that is to tell them what to believe in directly or indirectly. Any other interpretation is just semantics.

Mind you I'm happy to indulge your little truism if only to let you know that it does not necessarily follow that just because someone is an atheist then this does not preclude them from being a total and utter idiot too. I think you know what I mean.
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sowotsdis

science cannot explain suicide amongst lemmings

Um, yes it can. :|
banned 1 Like #23
brett1985

Mind you I'm happy to indulge your little truism if only to let you know that it does not necessarily follow that just because someone is an atheist then this does not preclude them from being a total and utter idiot too.

Syntax make baby Jebus cry. :(
#24
brett1985

Sorry Dan but I reckon when you choose to strongly insult someones belief in favor of another way of thinking then that is to tell them what to believe in directly or indirectly. Any other interpretation is just semantics.

Other than the lack of eternal damnation for disagreeing with my way of thinking, that's different to the modus operandi of 99% of the worlds religions how?
#25
Apparently my subtle observation about Dan going round telling people what to believe in has gone down like a lead balloon.

Sorry Dan. I'm sure you can retrieve this situation for yourself. After all you are so very intelligent.
#26
danmc
brett1985

Sorry Dan but I reckon when you choose to strongly insult someones belief in favor of another way of thinking then that is to tell them what to believe in directly or indirectly. Any other interpretation is just semantics.

Other than the lack of eternal damnation for disagreeing with my way of thinking, that's different to the modus operandi of 99% of the worlds religions how?

At least you've now tacitly admitted that my original observation was spot on.

I must also congratulate you as you've just scientifically proved that time travel is possible as you have seemingly taken us back to the 1700s where religious belief is concerned.

If you want a genuine answer then I would say that most religious people do not engage in the hell and damnation rhetoric. And I personally don't have much time for folk that do either.

My view is that I embrace science totally but I do not see it as the polar opposite of faith. I enjoy discussion concerning both topics and you will actually find that some of the most intelligent discussion can come from folk on either side of the argument or indeed both. Yet, you do not necessarily have to agree with them.
#27
When I wrote this, I feared it would descend into religion vs non religion, I guess I am not surprised, as wars have been fought over religion..

Brett may I ask, do you accept that science has proved the shroud of turin is not what it is claimed to be, or do you not accept the science?
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Just to step, unwisely, into this debate: science does not disprove religion and probably never will. Science begins with an idea and expounds on it in order to find the truth and elucidate on the universe around us. Religion starts with and ends with a statement. Many reknowned scientists are/were deeply religious or have some degree of faith, religion to the rational is about morality and peace. Science can't provide certain things that religion can. It is not something that can get people through tough times. It has to be detached from human emotion. Religion still exists for a reason. It is nit because people are stupid, but because it us something that can fill a void like the myths before them.

I do enjoy a good myth, but i equally enjoy a good debunkting, ding dong. The skeptic is a good website fir these things. They once ran an article about some American physicists who partially proved that ghosts can't exist.
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Aeschylus
When I wrote this, I feared it would descend into religion vs non religion, I guess I am not surprised, as wars have been fought over religion..

Brett may I ask, do you accept that science has proved the shroud of turin is not what it is claimed to be, or do you not accept the science?

Aeschylus. Please! A man has called a group of people idiots for their beliefs and was corrected by someone who aptly pointed out that there are idiotic folk on every side of the debate. I was being conciliatory when others where being abusive.

As for the Shroud I am simply not acquainted with the discussion surrounding it so sorry to disappoint.
#30
Science is full of mysteries.

Is other life out there? Even a microbe elsewhere in our solar system would be mind blowing as it would show life isn't rare.

How is reality constructed? What is dark matter?

Will we conquer aging or augment ourselves beyond these frail human bodies? Could the first child that will live a thousand years truly exist as some have speculated and what kind of world will they live in.
#31
Aeschylus
When I wrote this, I feared it would descend into religion vs non religion, I guess I am not surprised, as wars have been fought over religion..

Brett may I ask, do you accept that science has proved the shroud of turin is not what it is claimed to be, or do you not accept the science?

Can you link to the documentary proving the shroud to be a forgery. I don't doubt you but I know that as of 2005 the tests were inconclusive and i cant find anything later.

Had to do a google search to actually know what the 'Shroud of Turin' was
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brett1985

Aeschylus. Please! A man has called a group of people idiots for their beliefs and was corrected by someone who aptly pointed out that there are idiotic folk on every side of the debate. I was being conciliatory when others where being abusive.

Hi Brett. Please don't take the lack of a response as some kind of intellectual victory or refutation of my earlier comments or viewpoints. The fact of the matter was I soon realized a couple of posts in that I was unwittingly breaking one of my own cardinal rules.

Though shalt not debate religion with idiots.

Anywho, Peace and love.

Dan.
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danmc


Though shalt not debate religion with idiots.


Dan.

Redundant statement if you have already stated that anyone who believes in religion is an Idiot. Should be:

"Thou shall not debate religion." Which is especially true in your case since a debate requires a basic knowledge at least of the opposing sides argument and you do not seem to have a clue.
#34
dga
brett1985
Aeschylus
When I wrote this, I feared it would descend into religion vs non religion, I guess I am not surprised, as wars have been fought over religion..

Brett may I ask, do you accept that science has proved the shroud of turin is not what it is claimed to be, or do you not accept the science?

Aeschylus. Please! A man has called a group of people idiots for their beliefs and was corrected by someone who aptly pointed out that there are idiotic folk on every side of the debate. I was being conciliatory when others where being abusive.

As for the Shroud I am simply not acquainted with the discussion surrounding it so sorry to disappoint.
If your personal core belief system says that Adam and Eve populated the world, then you're a stupid inbred.

There, happy now?

And you of course put all your faith in a "Big Bang" Theory which up till now hasn't been proven
#35
dga


I have an open mind

Wouldn't seem so based on the comment just before this one.
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bluntmachetti
dga
brett1985
Aeschylus
When I wrote this, I feared it would descend into religion vs non religion, I guess I am not surprised, as wars have been fought over religion..

Brett may I ask, do you accept that science has proved the shroud of turin is not what it is claimed to be, or do you not accept the science?

Aeschylus. Please! A man has called a group of people idiots for their beliefs and was corrected by someone who aptly pointed out that there are idiotic folk on every side of the debate. I was being conciliatory when others where being abusive.

As for the Shroud I am simply not acquainted with the discussion surrounding it so sorry to disappoint.
If your personal core belief system says that Adam and Eve populated the world, then you're a stupid inbred.

There, happy now?

And you of course put all your faith in a "Big Bang" Theory which up till now hasn't been proven

Kinda hard to prove something that happened BILLIONS of years ago, but if you want to believe in a BOOK, written by a HUMAN, who was good at writing ( I always think of them as the JK Rowling of the old times ) - Then jump on the band wagon that is brainwashed into billions.

I kinda cry inside when I think of how many humans believe in a book, yet they call BS when they see Bruce Willis in a film take out a whole army of elite soldiers. ****, they call BS on UFO's in videos or the Loch Ness Monster, at least we have video of something that was suppose to happen, yet walking on water, feeding thousands from nothing, a giant boat holding all of earth's animals, a white guy with a fat beard called Dog, this one is the best.. hold on.

A WOMAN PREGNANT FROM THE AIR

Imagine if a woman said that in 2012, she'd be locked up in a mental home.






Edited By: Wotwot123 on Jul 31, 2012 03:06: Sup
1 Like #37
Wotwot123
I kinda cry inside when I think of how many humans believe in a book, yet they call BS when they see Bruce Willis in a film take out a whole army of elite soldiers.


Just so we are clear what you meant...

Stallone defeated an army in "Rambo", & Schwarzenegger fought a militia in "Commando".

Willis' foes in the "Die Hard" series were terrorists & mercenaries.
#38
fanpages
Wotwot123
I kinda cry inside when I think of how many humans believe in a book, yet they call BS when they see Bruce Willis in a film take out a whole army of elite soldiers.

Just so we are clear what you meant...

Stallone defeated an army in "Rambo", & Schwarzenegger fought a militia "Commando".

Willis' foes in the "Die Hard" series were terrorists & mercenaries.

See, we can actually prove what happened.

We can prove more, from movies, which we know is fake, than stories from the Bibble.
#39
Wotwot123
See, we can actually prove what happened.

We can prove more, from movies, which we know is fake, than stories from the Bibble.


It is just a collection of stories. Do we need to prove fiction in "The Bible"?

You do not have to read it, nor do have to believe these stories.
#40
fanpages
Wotwot123
See, we can actually prove what happened.

We can prove more, from movies, which we know is fake, than stories from the Bibble.

It is just a collection of stories. Do we need to prove fiction in "The Bible"?

You do not have to read it, nor do have to believe these stories.

That's harsh..

:D

Edited By: Wotwot123 on Jul 31, 2012 03:22

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