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hermanjelmet Avatar
5y, 7m agoPosted 5 years, 7 months ago
So the SNP have won control of the Scottish parliament and have promised a referendum on independence. Anyone think this is a bit cheeky? Shouldn't they be asking the English if they can go out and play on their own?
Personally i'm all for it, and they can keep their precious north sea oil as long as they pay the english back for bailing out RBS and HBOS banks.
And issue a full apology for Ewan McGregors performance as Obi-Wan Kenobi
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5y, 7m agoPosted 5 years, 7 months ago
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4 Likes #1
More than happy for them to go. I'd love to see them sustain no tuition fees, free prescription etc on their own...
9 Likes #2
Didnt the ENTIRE united kingdom bail out the banks? Never realised it was the English on their own.
banned#3
North Sea oil won't last forever, but if Scotland wants to go it alone then I don't think many would object. They're another drain on The City to be honest.
6 Likes #4
As a scottish person I personally think scottish people have seen what a mess David Cameron and Co are doing to BRITAIN and are not going to sit back and watch another uncomfortable few years go by till next elections. If the results of last may were Labour winning I think we would be seeing a very much different story.
This coalation goverment has wrecked the whole of Britain. My family have found it more difficult to live by all the changes brought in since last years election. This new change is the way forward for Scotland and England.

By the way referring to us as 'them' is very racist. You wouldn't refer to black people as 'them' so why refer Scottish to a group of 'them'.
2 Likes #5
lkscoltand
As a scottish person I personally think scottish people have seen what a mess David Cameron and Co are doing to BRITAIN and are not going to sit back and watch another uncomfortable few years go by till next elections. If the results of last may were Labour winning I think we would be seeing a very much different story.
This coalation goverment has wrecked the whole of Britain. My family have found it more difficult to live by all the changes brought in since last years election. This new change is the way forward for Scotland and England.

By the way referring to us as 'them' is very racist. You wouldn't refer to black people as 'them' so why refer Scottish to a group of 'them'.


you haven't used misc long enough
banned 2 Likes #6
lkscoltand
As a scottish person I personally think scottish people have seen what a mess David Cameron and Co are doing to BRITAIN and are not going to sit back and watch another uncomfortable few years go by till next elections. If the results of last may were Labour winning I think we would be seeing a very much different story.
This coalation goverment has wrecked the whole of Britain. My family have found it more difficult to live by all the changes brought in since last years election. This new change is the way forward for Scotland and England.

By the way referring to us as 'them' is very racist. You wouldn't refer to black people as 'them' so why refer Scottish to a group of 'them'.


It's not racist and the country hasn't been 'wrecked' by the Tories. The banking crisis was actually on Brown's shift.

Once the oil has dried up (if we don't decide to keep it for ourselves) how does Scotland actually make money?
suspended 2 Likes #7
I voted SNP and am slightly nervous about the break up of the UK but most big changes come with some degree of nerves. I do agree that the rest of the UK should also get to vote on an independant Scotland and understand why some, probably most would be quite happy to get rid of us. Quite funny that some think that all Scotland has going for it is the North Sea oil but ignorance is bliss.
1 Like #8
hermanjelmet
barky
Didnt the ENTIRE united kingdom bail out the banks? Never realised it was the English on their own.
The royal bank of Scotland was bailed out by the bank of England?
And the bank of Scotland was bailed out by the state owned Halifax?
But I could be wrong, I normally am


The bank of england does not mean it is english-its actually the united kingdom bank-they set the interest rate for the whole of the uk. Bank of england is just a name. Just as the bank of scotland and rbs do not only hold funds from scots.
#9
barky
hermanjelmet
barky
Didnt the ENTIRE united kingdom bail out the banks? Never realised it was the English on their own.

The royal bank of Scotland was bailed out by the bank of England?
And the bank of Scotland was bailed out by the state owned Halifax?
But I could be wrong, I normally am



The bank of england does not mean it is english-its actually the united kingdom bank-they set the interest rate for the whole of the uk. Bank of england is just a name. Just as the bank of scotland and rbs do not only hold funds from scots.


But they were Scottish based banks? And they were bailed out by English based banks?
So who does pay the billions they owe?
banned 3 Likes #10
So if you Scots get your independence you'll all have to leave this site and set up your own.

Ah the bliss of no more Rangers/Celtic threads or even the involvement of ASB on the forum at all...
#11
FilthAndFurry
lkscoltand
As a scottish person I personally think scottish people have seen what a mess David Cameron and Co are doing to BRITAIN and are not going to sit back and watch another uncomfortable few years go by till next elections. If the results of last may were Labour winning I think we would be seeing a very much different story.
This coalation goverment has wrecked the whole of Britain. My family have found it more difficult to live by all the changes brought in since last years election. This new change is the way forward for Scotland and England.

By the way referring to us as 'them' is very racist. You wouldn't refer to black people as 'them' so why refer Scottish to a group of 'them'.


It's not racist and the country hasn't been 'wrecked' by the Tories. The banking crisis was actually on Brown's shift.

Once the oil has dried up (if we don't decide to keep it for ourselves) how does Scotland actually make money?

Quite alot actually from natural resources all be it they won't last forever, agriculture and forestry, fishing, oil and gas, fishing, energy, manufacturing, whiskey, electronics, textiles, construction, major trading partners, investment, insurance, tourism. Dare I go on and yes the Tories have 'wrecked' this country and made a divide more prominent.
banned 1 Like #12
barky
hermanjelmet
barky
Didnt the ENTIRE united kingdom bail out the banks? Never realised it was the English on their own.

The royal bank of Scotland was bailed out by the bank of England?
And the bank of Scotland was bailed out by the state owned Halifax?
But I could be wrong, I normally am



The bank of england does not mean it is english-its actually the united kingdom bank-they set the interest rate for the whole of the uk. Bank of england is just a name. Just as the bank of scotland and rbs do not only hold funds from scots.



You sound just like my mum.

"What's yours is ours, what's mine is my own."

Good point MC.

Scotland GTFO of the UK. X)
#13
master_chief
So if you Scots get your independence you'll all have to leave this site and set up your own.

Ah the bliss of no more Rangers/Celtic threads or even the involvement of ASB on the forum at all...

Really
1 Like #14
hermanjelmet
barky
hermanjelmet
barky
Didnt the ENTIRE united kingdom bail out the banks? Never realised it was the English on their own.
The royal bank of Scotland was bailed out by the bank of England?
And the bank of Scotland was bailed out by the state owned Halifax?
But I could be wrong, I normally am


The bank of england does not mean it is english-its actually the united kingdom bank-they set the interest rate for the whole of the uk. Bank of england is just a name. Just as the bank of scotland and rbs do not only hold funds from scots.

But they were Scottish based banks? And they were bailed out by English based banks?
So who does pay the billions they owe?


every single one of us pays the cost-english,scots,welsh,irish-and it wasnt just scottish banks that got bailed out remember-supposedly the money all gets paid back to the treasury one day,but we will all be dead by then methinks. Its not a scotland/england thing m8-the entire countrys banking system went kaput,in fact,the entire worlds banking system.
#15
master_chief
So if you Scots get your independence you'll all have to leave this site and set up your own.

Ah the bliss of no more Rangers/Celtic threads or even the involvement of ASB on the forum at all...

we already have our own part of the forum-only Scottish ips can access it.............
5 Likes #16
loooooook at all the "I hate Scottish people" in this thread lol.

Grow a backbone little Eeeeeeeenglish man.
7 Likes #17
Love how a thread like this has brought out the English bigots.

A little lesson for you silly little lot, England does not own Scotland.

It is the act of union that means we are part of the UK, if Scotland wishes to get out then so be it, are you really that offended??

The question is why is Scotland so useful to the main Westminister govt if it such a drain of the financial state of the UK?? Quite obviously Scotland is of massive interest in UK terms, where Oil,Gas and Export duty on Whisky often pays for its citizens quite easily.

For instance when the Grangemouth Oil refinery workers went on strike 2008, it was estimated that it cost the UK economy £50 million a day. Do the math, Scotland is seen as a very important part of the UK and financially viable.
banned#18
barky
master_chief
So if you Scots get your independence you'll all have to leave this site and set up your own.

Ah the bliss of no more Rangers/Celtic threads or even the involvement of ASB on the forum at all...


we already have our own part of the forum-only Scottish ips can access it.............


Paid for by the vast majority English members! X)
banned#19
lkscoltand
FilthAndFurry
lkscoltand
As a scottish person I personally think scottish people have seen what a mess David Cameron and Co are doing to BRITAIN and are not going to sit back and watch another uncomfortable few years go by till next elections. If the results of last may were Labour winning I think we would be seeing a very much different story.
This coalation goverment has wrecked the whole of Britain. My family have found it more difficult to live by all the changes brought in since last years election. This new change is the way forward for Scotland and England.

By the way referring to us as 'them' is very racist. You wouldn't refer to black people as 'them' so why refer Scottish to a group of 'them'.


It's not racist and the country hasn't been 'wrecked' by the Tories. The banking crisis was actually on Brown's shift.

Once the oil has dried up (if we don't decide to keep it for ourselves) how does Scotland actually make money?

Quite alot actually from natural resources all be it they won't last forever, agriculture and forestry, fishing, oil and gas, fishing, energy, manufacturing, whiskey, electronics, textiles, construction, major trading partners, investment, insurance, tourism. Dare I go on and yes the Tories have 'wrecked' this country and made a divide more prominent.


Nice copy and paste. You Scots sure do love your fishing apparently. X)
banned#20
tonypop
Love how a thread like this has brought out the English bigots.

A little lesson for you silly little lot, England does not own Scotland.

It is the act of union that means we are part of the UK, if Scotland wishes to get out then so be it, are you really that offended??

The question is why is Scotland so useful to the main Westminister govt if it such a drain of the financial state of the UK?? Quite obviously Scotland is of massive interest in UK terms, where Oil,Gas and Export duty on Whisky often pays for its citizens quite easily.

For instance when the Grangemouth Oil refinery workers went on strike 2008, it was estimated that it cost the UK economy £50 million a day. Do the math, Scotland is seen as a very important part of the UK and financially viable.


Scotland is like the Royal Family - we keep it around for tradition.
#21
Hissy Miss
I voted SNP and am slightly nervous about the break up of the UK but most big changes come with some degree of nerves. I do agree that the rest of the UK should also get to vote on an independant Scotland and understand why some, probably most would be quite happy to get rid of us. Quite funny that some think that all Scotland has going for it is the North Sea oil but ignorance is bliss.


Yeah he forgot about the export of Irn Bru and shortbread. I'm all for it, Rangers and Celtic will have even less claim to playing in the EPL.
#22
FilthAndFurry
lkscoltand
FilthAndFurry
lkscoltand
As a scottish person I personally think scottish people have seen what a mess David Cameron and Co are doing to BRITAIN and are not going to sit back and watch another uncomfortable few years go by till next elections. If the results of last may were Labour winning I think we would be seeing a very much different story.
This coalation goverment has wrecked the whole of Britain. My family have found it more difficult to live by all the changes brought in since last years election. This new change is the way forward for Scotland and England.

By the way referring to us as 'them' is very racist. You wouldn't refer to black people as 'them' so why refer Scottish to a group of 'them'.


It's not racist and the country hasn't been 'wrecked' by the Tories. The banking crisis was actually on Brown's shift.

Once the oil has dried up (if we don't decide to keep it for ourselves) how does Scotland actually make money?

Quite alot actually from natural resources all be it they won't last forever, agriculture and forestry, fishing, oil and gas, fishing, energy, manufacturing, whiskey, electronics, textiles, construction, major trading partners, investment, insurance, tourism. Dare I go on and yes the Tories have 'wrecked' this country and made a divide more prominent.


Nice copy and paste. You Scots sure do love your fishing apparently. X)

LMAO not a copy and paste actually!
I went to university, I got a degree, I'm well educated are you? or was the fee's too expensive for you?
#23
barky
hermanjelmet
barky
hermanjelmet
barky
Didnt the ENTIRE united kingdom bail out the banks? Never realised it was the English on their own.

The royal bank of Scotland was bailed out by the bank of England?
And the bank of Scotland was bailed out by the state owned Halifax?
But I could be wrong, I normally am



The bank of england does not mean it is english-its actually the united kingdom bank-they set the interest rate for the whole of the uk. Bank of england is just a name. Just as the bank of scotland and rbs do not only hold funds from scots.


But they were Scottish based banks? And they were bailed out by English based banks?
So who does pay the billions they owe?



every single one of us pays the cost-english,scots,welsh,irish-and it wasnt just scottish banks that got bailed out remember-supposedly the money all gets paid back to the treasury one day,but we will all be dead by then methinks. Its not a scotland/england thing m8-the entire countrys banking system went kaput,in fact,the entire worlds banking system.


I'm English with Scots grandparents so am not anti Scots. Started this thread to get others reactions. Having said that, the Scots will need to set up their own banking system from scratch. How much of the national debt are they willing to accept responsibility for?
3 Likes #24
I actually can't believe how many English bigots this thread has produced, take a long hard look in the mirror this is why Britain is the way it is today. Very proud moment for the English!
1 Like #25
lkscoltand
FilthAndFurry
lkscoltand
FilthAndFurry
lkscoltand
As a scottish person I personally think scottish people have seen what a mess David Cameron and Co are doing to BRITAIN and are not going to sit back and watch another uncomfortable few years go by till next elections. If the results of last may were Labour winning I think we would be seeing a very much different story.
This coalation goverment has wrecked the whole of Britain. My family have found it more difficult to live by all the changes brought in since last years election. This new change is the way forward for Scotland and England.

By the way referring to us as 'them' is very racist. You wouldn't refer to black people as 'them' so why refer Scottish to a group of 'them'.


It's not racist and the country hasn't been 'wrecked' by the Tories. The banking crisis was actually on Brown's shift.

Once the oil has dried up (if we don't decide to keep it for ourselves) how does Scotland actually make money?

Quite alot actually from natural resources all be it they won't last forever, agriculture and forestry, fishing, oil and gas, fishing, energy, manufacturing, whiskey, electronics, textiles, construction, major trading partners, investment, insurance, tourism. Dare I go on and yes the Tories have 'wrecked' this country and made a divide more prominent.


Nice copy and paste. You Scots sure do love your fishing apparently. X)

LMAO not a copy and paste actually!
I went to university, I got a degree, I'm well educated are you? or was the fee's too expensive for you?


Brilliant
banned#26
That list looks suspiciously in the same order of the Wikipedia article on the Scottish economy...
#27
lkscoltand

I went to university, I got a degree, I'm well educated are you? or was the fee's too expensive for you?


he likes to think he is.

lkscoltand
I actually can't believe how many English bigots this thread has produced, take a long hard look in the mirror this is why Britain is the way it is today. Very proud moment for the English!


you haven't met boothy yet, lol
#28
Can we restore Hadrian's Wall?
#29
master_chief
That list looks suspiciously in the same order of the Wikipedia article on the Scottish economy...

ha ha ha unlike you I don't rely on Wikipedia for information. I have read books, you do know we get books up here right!?
banned#30
lkscoltand
master_chief
That list looks suspiciously in the same order of the Wikipedia article on the Scottish economy...

ha ha ha unlike you I don't rely on Wikipedia for information. I have read books, you do know we get books up here right!?


You're really going to deny you didn't get that list off Wikipedia??
#31
r4ge
lkscoltand

I went to university, I got a degree, I'm well educated are you? or was the fee's too expensive for you?


he likes to think he is.

lkscoltand
I actually can't believe how many English bigots this thread has produced, take a long hard look in the mirror this is why Britain is the way it is today. Very proud moment for the English!


you haven't met boothy yet, lol

He is a SHE for your information. Oh look a well educated female..... come on lets hear the sexist comments from the english bigots now

Edited By: lkscoltand on May 06, 2011 20:06
#32
master_chief
lkscoltand
master_chief
That list looks suspiciously in the same order of the Wikipedia article on the Scottish economy...

ha ha ha unlike you I don't rely on Wikipedia for information. I have read books, you do know we get books up here right!?


You're really going to deny you didn't get that list off Wikipedia??

Yes I am, I went to another site lmao Wikipedia isn't a reliable information source
banned 1 Like #33
lkscoltand
r4ge
lkscoltand

I went to university, I got a degree, I'm well educated are you? or was the fee's too expensive for you?


he likes to think he is.

lkscoltand
I actually can't believe how many English bigots this thread has produced, take a long hard look in the mirror this is why Britain is the way it is today. Very proud moment for the English!


you haven't met boothy yet, lol

He is a SHE for your information. Oh look a well educated female..... come on lets here the sexist comments from the english bigots now


He was talking about F&F, a well educated person would have noticed that...

Edited By: master_chief on May 06, 2011 20:07
banned 1 Like #34
lkscoltand
master_chief
lkscoltand
master_chief
That list looks suspiciously in the same order of the Wikipedia article on the Scottish economy...

ha ha ha unlike you I don't rely on Wikipedia for information. I have read books, you do know we get books up here right!?


You're really going to deny you didn't get that list off Wikipedia??

Yes I am, I went to another site lmao Wikipedia isn't a reliable information source


So you did copy and paste then!
1 Like #35
its pointless carrying on with these threads, only attracts the BNP brigade with their simple brains.
#36
lkscoltand
you do know we get books up here right!?


Ah, we have Kindles down here.

What colour is the moon up there?
1 Like #37
Dont blame you

Wish i could live somewhere that had a Government that lok after it's own

lkscoltand
As a scottish person I personally think scottish people have seen what a mess David Cameron and Co are doing to BRITAIN and are not going to sit back and watch another uncomfortable few years go by till next elections. If the results of last may were Labour winning I think we would be seeing a very much different story.
This coalation goverment has wrecked the whole of Britain. My family have found it more difficult to live by all the changes brought in since last years election. This new change is the way forward for Scotland and England.

By the way referring to us as 'them' is very racist. You wouldn't refer to black people as 'them' so why refer Scottish to a group of 'them'.
#38
I need to register a domain, hotscottishdeals.com thing is I'm guessing it'll mainly consist of buckfast, irn bru and shortbread deals
#39
master_chief
lkscoltand
r4ge
lkscoltand

I went to university, I got a degree, I'm well educated are you? or was the fee's too expensive for you?


he likes to think he is.

lkscoltand
I actually can't believe how many English bigots this thread has produced, take a long hard look in the mirror this is why Britain is the way it is today. Very proud moment for the English!


you haven't met boothy yet, lol

He is a SHE for your information. Oh look a well educated female..... come on lets here the sexist comments from the english bigots now


He was talking about F&F, a well educated person would have noticed that...


lol, women!

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBQtH_qHV_BCcqAKRaWTSReGjXfvc3kwmlmQ_CUrJSG2HQHDn3jw
#40
master_chief
lkscoltand
master_chief
lkscoltand
master_chief
That list looks suspiciously in the same order of the Wikipedia article on the Scottish economy...

ha ha ha unlike you I don't rely on Wikipedia for information. I have read books, you do know we get books up here right!?


You're really going to deny you didn't get that list off Wikipedia??

Yes I am, I went to another site lmao Wikipedia isn't a reliable information source


So you did copy and paste then!

master_chief
lkscoltand
r4ge
lkscoltand

I went to university, I got a degree, I'm well educated are you? or was the fee's too expensive for you?


he likes to think he is.

lkscoltand
I actually can't believe how many English bigots this thread has produced, take a long hard look in the mirror this is why Britain is the way it is today. Very proud moment for the English!


you haven't met boothy yet, lol

He is a SHE for your information. Oh look a well educated female..... come on lets here the sexist comments from the english bigots now


He was talking about F&F, a well educated person would have noticed that...

Perhaps
I'm not going to carry on with much more of this slanging match, it is more than pointless and nothing to do with the OP of this thread. Get a grip

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