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Scottish referees to go on strike-whats your views?

barky Avatar
6y, 2w agoPosted 6 years, 2 weeks ago
Scots refs have "had enough"-they claim that they are being threatened in the street by fans and that they have had enough of managers questioning their integrity.

This has all come to a head because a class one referee admitted to lying in his match report but refuses to resign,but it should be stressed that that is just the latest in a series of incidents.

So is the answer that we have full time referees who deserve to be scrutinised? Or do we just accept that they are human and make errors and dont deserve stick when they do?
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6y, 2w agoPosted 6 years, 2 weeks ago
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banned#1
Inb4 plum claims that bankers are to blame.
[mod]#2
In every profession you make mistakes. In every profession mistakes are punishable. It should be no different for referees.

I do feel (and I cannot speak for Scottish leagues) there are many managers who get on the back of referees without seeing television replays. For example, Roberto Martinez said on Saturday that Hugo Rodallega should not have been sent off and the referee was poor. Anyone who saw his awful challenge on Rafael must have considered this to be incredibly disgraceful for a manager to condone it. Let alone disagree with the referee.
[mod]#3
who deserve to be scrutinised?


The Scottish Leagues for claiming to play football. ;):p


Changes nothing having full time refs...........makes no difference in the English leagues.

Leave them to strike............they'll be back when they miss their pocket money.
#4
Everybody Out
#5
garbage456
football refs should be like rugby refs, any funny looks or back chat and that is it, yellow card and go back 30 metres(or whatever distance it is)

Couldn't agree more, there is much more respect for rugby referee's,however in football there is no respect.However in this instance the referees had to take a stand,my club Celtic were one of the worst culprits in this situation,with chairman John Reid questioning the integrity of referees,but to be honest John Reid is a complete diddy.
#6
fair play to them. They get dogs abuse from everybody. There is an utter lack of respect in the sport. They should introduce rules relating to refs similar to those in place in rugby. If players dont comply dock the club points. People don't seem to realise that refs are vital to the game and if they continue to get the abuse they do they will walk away from the sport
#7
criticism is one thing but when refs are receiving death threats and their family being a targeted is a totally different thing


Edited By: shedboy66 on Nov 22, 2010 18:52
#8
guv
Inb4 plum claims that bankers are to blame.

You missing me guv? (_;)

From my understanding clubs have themselves to blame. Nice to see some workers sticking together. Hope they win and force the clubs to show some more respect.
#9
Got a link to this story mate?
#10
shedboy66
criticism is one thing but when refs are receiving death threats and their family being a targeted is a totally different thing

agreed-there can be no excuse for such things-EVER! tbh,I have every sympathy with the refs-they have a completely thankless task. However,it has to be said that the ref who admitted lying in his match report should resign imho-there is a difference between making a mistake and fabricating a report. The refs themselves are in a difficult position when they are fed up having their integrity questioned(rightly so),but clearly have ONE man in their ranks who does not have integrity.

I can understand and tolerate anyone making an error,we all do it-but this particular ref should have the decency to quit because he is actually damaging his colleagues case.
#13
They should. Hopefully it will stop Neil Lennon from acting like a complete ned in future. The way he behaved over the path month or so is despicable.

The thing about respect is it doesn't seem to happen both ways. A lot of the time refs don't show respect to players and also act like morons.
#14
tonypop
garbage456
football refs should be like rugby refs, any funny looks or back chat and that is it, yellow card and go back 30 metres(or whatever distance it is)
Couldn't agree more, there is much more respect for rugby referee's,however in football there is no respect.However in this instance the referees had to take a stand,my club Celtic were one of the worst culprits in this situation,with chairman John Reid questioning the integrity of referees,but to be honest John Reid is a complete diddy.
the referee is the real culprit he addmitted to lying is that not enough? if he done the decent thing by just walking away from it that would be the end of the matter. but as the saying goes once a liar always a liar seemingly that seems to be the done thing now no matter where you go it is just lie after lie .also people seem to forget when you get a rat in a corner you always give it enough room to get out. and that is what is happening in the football circles just now more so scotland football is corrupt the cover ups are still going on never mind the errors and mistakes but to admitting to lying on his say so. some poor punter may have lost his weekend bet just because of his lies how can it be that some people can except the lies that have been told. and if this situation had happened with rangers. i wonder if the outcome would have been the same.
#15
bighoss2
tonypop
garbage456
football refs should be like rugby refs, any funny looks or back chat and that is it, yellow card and go back 30 metres(or whatever distance it is)
Couldn't agree more, there is much more respect for rugby referee's,however in football there is no respect.However in this instance the referees had to take a stand,my club Celtic were one of the worst culprits in this situation,with chairman John Reid questioning the integrity of referees,but to be honest John Reid is a complete diddy.
the referee is the real culprit he addmitted to lying is that not enough? if he done the decent thing by just walking away from it that would be the end of the matter. but as the saying goes once a liar always a liar seemingly that seems to be the done thing now no matter where you go it is just lie after lie .also people seem to forget when you get a rat in a corner you always give it enough room to get out. and that is what is happening in the football circles just now more so scotland football is corrupt the cover ups are still going on never mind the errors and mistakes but to admitting to lying on his say so. some poor punter may have lost his weekend bet just because of his lies how can it be that some people can except the lies that have been told. and if this situation had happened with rangers. i wonder if the outcome would have been the same.



Of course it would have been the same, take off you green tinted glasses and stop listening to idiots like John Reid, just because Dougie McDonald lied doesn't mean every referee is at it, I think everyone agrees McDonald should have been sacked or walked but to question the integrity of every referee is wrong,and getting referees in from wales,england or N.Ireland certainly won't help
[mod]#16
Talks with the refs failed but all games will go ahead as they have secured foreign referees for the matches.
[mod] 1 Like #17
All back off again...........Polish referees have withdrawn now. X)
#18
Syzable
All back off again...........Polish referees have withdrawn now. X)


lol'ing my ass off at this farce.
1 Like #19
Syzable
All back off again...........Polish referees have withdrawn now. X)

according to the sfa the premier games are still on as they "have a plan"-I believe mrs barky is refereeing the celtic game,the dalmatian is officiating at the rangers game,and the others are being covered by a family of rabbits.........
banned#20
this whole problem is all about one club is it not....solution get rid of the said club.....problem solved,and give that wee crybaby lennon something to really cry about.(_;)
[mod]#21
barky
Syzable
All back off again...........Polish referees have withdrawn now. X)


according to the sfa the premier games are still on as they "have a plan"-I believe mrs barky is refereeing the celtic game,the dalmatian is officiating at the rangers game,and the others are being covered by a family of rabbits.........


lol :D
#22
I think we are going to be in the poop in years to come as who in their right mind would take up refereeing these days. if we moan about the lack of decent referees now just wait until about another 5-10 years time when there will be that few of them anyone with a hint of a refs GCSE will be officiating, especially when they move to 5 officials per game. Wear a black shirt to the match and they'll probably ask you to do it.
Absolutely appalling the way they are treated and what do the FA, UEFA, FIFA do....nothing but a respect campaign instead of clamping down on the culprits.
#23
RFC
this whole problem is all about one club is it not....solution get rid of the said club.....problem solved,and give that wee crybaby lennon something to really cry about.(_;)

truthfully,it isnt all about celtic m8(and I am neutral in this btw)-neil lennon and john reid are out of order agreed,but heres the problem- we have a referee who admits lying and wont resign,sfa wont sack him,yet refs say they are tired of their INTEGRITY being questioned-surely that is wrong? If managers are not allowed to criticise refs,then surely refs must be above reproach?

If they make mistakes,then fine,they are only human,but telling porkies is unacceptable and they have just played into the hands of the conspiracy theorists. The sfa are also dragging their heels over the "dallas email"-they obviously know by now whether he sent it or not so are they waiting to see if it all quiets down and just sweep it under the carpet.

Imho,it isnt all about lennon-the sfa arent gonna be able to deal with lennon claiming "conspiracy against celtic",unless they deal with macdonald and dallas are they?

Cant have it both ways-either there is NO bias,in which case a man who lied and a man who sent an offensive email must be dealt with. Or there IS bias,in which case nobody can criticise lennon and reid for saying so. In order to deal with lennon and reid(which they should),then they need to deal with dallas and macdonald-isnt that reasonable?

The refs themselves should realise that they cant go crying about integrity when they have closed ranks around a man who has admitted lying in a match report-he should go,and it should be made clear that from now on no more nonsense is acceptable from clubs,or from refs.
#24
if you admit lying in your job you would be punished so why not him!
regardless of whatever else is going on thats what its all about!
banned#25
pinkshaz
if you admit lying in your job you would be punished so why not him!regardless of whatever else is going on thats what its all about!
c,mon pinky no one likes referees ...you are not supposed to,but all that whinging comming from parkhead leaves a bad taste,and its not a new thing either they have been playing the poor us card for years ,starting to get on peoples teets now and rightly so.i wish they would just vanish off to some imaginary league that wants them and give us all some peace.


right wheres my bowler hat,meeting at eight thirty ;)


Edited By: RFC on Nov 26, 2010 20:53: WTF
banned#26
JEEZ I REMEMBER A DAY WHEN "MOOB" WOULD HAVE GOT RIPPED RIGHT INTO THIS THREAD[b][/b]!
#27
well thats dallas resigned and apparently the isreali officials are also considering whether or not to turn up tomorrow.

the whole thing is a total farce and the sfa should now just be disbanded lock, stock with the running of the scottish game brought under control of the spl. The blazers at hampden have so royally messed this up it's actually hard to believe what is happening.

On a side note though hopefully lennon will not be able to control himself tomorrow and have a go at the luxembourg ref as well so that he'll then skoot back home giving ranger depleted squad a much needed week off.

Edited By: ants97 on Nov 26, 2010 22:58
#28
id sack all the 1's that go on strike they get around £900 quid a game and most already have top jobs
#29
RFC
pinkshaz
if you admit lying in your job you would be punished so why not him!regardless of whatever else is going on thats what its all about!
c,mon pinky no one likes referees ...you are not supposed to,but all that whinging comming from parkhead leaves a bad taste,and its not a new thing either they have been playing the poor us card for years ,starting to get on peoples teets now and rightly so.i wish they would just vanish off to some imaginary league that wants them and give us all some peace.right wheres my bowler hat,meeting at eight thirty ;)
it aint just parkhead whinging! theres loads of **** whinging also!
#30
no sympathy for dallas on sports centre lol
#31
even more ridiculously the luxembourg ref who is going to be in charge of the old firm games is on strike back in his homelland for pretty much the same reasons as the scottish refs.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2010/11/27/twist-as-it-s-revealed-strike-busting-ref-alain-hamer-is-on-strike-in-his-homeland-86908-22744278/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
#32
even the foreign refs can't stop celtic chucking a 2 goal lead at home.

Whats the address of the luxembourg fa? hahaha.

Edited By: ants97 on Nov 27, 2010 16:57
banned#33
pinkshaz
RFC
pinkshaz
if you admit lying in your job you would be punished so why not him!regardless of whatever else is going on thats what its all about!
c,mon pinky no one likes referees ...you are not supposed to,but all that whinging comming from parkhead leaves a bad taste,and its not a new thing either they have been playing the poor us card for years ,starting to get on peoples teets now and rightly so.i wish they would just vanish off to some imaginary league that wants them and give us all some peace.right wheres my bowler hat,meeting at eight thirty ;)
it aint just parkhead whinging! theres loads of **** whinging also!

what are **** shazzy!
#34
well am not allowed to say it!!! shaz btw :)
banned#35
pinkshaz
well am not allowed to say it!!! shaz btw :)

c,mon sharon spit it out?
banned#36
ants97
even the foreign refs can't stop celtic chucking a 2 goal lead at home.Whats the address of the luxembourg fa? hahaha.
lolz ,who to blame now???
i think maybe they should be looking a wee bit closer to home. aka LENNON OR THE TEAM ..FOR INSTANCE.
#37
Of course referees should have respect, but it works both ways, if refs are making ludicrous mistakes then they should expect to get some stick for them. Ridiculous decisions are made up and down the country every week.

The refusal to look at video/goal line technology isn't helping the refs either though.
#38
RFC
this whole problem is all about one club is it not....solution get rid of the said club.....problem solved,and give that wee crybaby lennon something to really cry about.(_;)


Eh, no. The whole problem was started by one referee and one linesman. Referee lies about a decision he made in a game, linesman exposes the lie, uproar ensues. Mainly from "one club", and rightly so (even if they have now taken it a bit too far). However, if this referee had done the right thing weeks back, we wouldn't now be in this situation....
#39
finally dougie mcdonald has done what he should've done weeks ago and walked.

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