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9y, 4m agoPosted 9 years, 4 months ago
http://www.homesonsale.co.uk

I am currently trying to sell my home without using an agent. There are a few sites that I have used and one I have paid £80 odd quid to for uploading a few pics & a For Sale Sign. It also gets the house coverage on a few websites etc. But this one I have come across gives you pretty much the same for free (without a board) and VERY big pictures unlike mine, and also tells me how many hits it's had etc, unlike mine. So if you're trying to sell your house, save £000's on estate agents (cos my experience so far is THEY AREN'T WORTH THE MONEY) give it a try. A free advert lasts a year.
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#1
SORRY! There is no expiry date that I know of, so ignore the date in the box above. xx :giggle:
#2
thank you.
#3
We have just sold our house so its too late for us. I would be worried that buyers may not be willing to purchase a house if they are not going through an estate agent that they have heard of. We didn't have the smoothest of sales and the estate agent earn't there money in our case, but I agree if everything goes smoothly they can seem a waste of money.
#4
dcx_badass
Our house has been on the market since January, and its till not sold, and subsequently we now have to sell our new house aswell as we can't afford to keep them both. The estate agents have all been ****.

So we'll try this, thanks.


I think the importrant thing is making sure people see that your house is for sale, which is where the visibility of an agents "For Sale" board, newspaper advertising, and website listings come in. From then on I don't think the agents have much of an effect until someone has made an offer and they act as a go-between.

If the house hasn't sold you also have to also look at other reasons why, other than just change the advertising method. As a buyer one thing we always found useful was an internal plan of the house roghly to scale and photos of the rooms. Good luck, stressful times!
#5
I went through one of these sites. As someone above said, the estate agents are just an advertising medium and a go-between. In reality most of the issues get discussed by solicitors not the agents.

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#6
Having had a bad experience of being shouted at by staff at Haart (they don't have any) when selling my late mothers house we don't have a lot of confidence with estate agents so we might give this a try, as we are going to be both buying & selling shortly.
#7
Hi, there is a company near me which I believe also deal with England that do house sales etc. they are very successful up here and work hard to sell your property. They do virtual tours, floor plans etc....http://www.findmybuyer.co.uk/property-services-uk.htm
#8
Good find, I'm not sure but I think that if you sell your property privately (which is what this site is doing ) you don't need one of those expensive 'home buyers reports'. So another bonus!.:thumbsup:
banned#9
tesco's have started this too
anyone tried them?
#10
Max Cady
Good find, I'm not sure but I think that if you sell your property privately (which is what this site is doing ) you don't need one of those expensive 'home buyers reports'. So another bonus!.:thumbsup:

you do still need one if you house fits the current criteria.

i just sold my house myself not using an agent, much easier. you can just speak to the buyers face to face to sort out offeres etc. then just give your solicitor all the details and they do the rest.
savedme thousands.
#11
There's plenty of those type of sites around now. All seem a tad over priced really, especially tescos!

There are a few free ones though like http://www.myownmove.com , http://www.mousesale.co.uk etc... they all seem to be listed on http://www.houseadvert.com/
#12
I woudl urge caution to anyone who's considering selling their home without an estate agent.

EA's provide a service that most of us don't see. They actively market property to people who are interested in buying. They know the area and are trained at negotiating. They vet clients before providing a viewing and act as a professional conduit during the sale process - this is invaluable in a chain.

Saving a couple of grand is indeed very tempting and I see that there are people here balking at £100 or so.

Put it this way, £100 is a lot of money if you get sod all out of it. Paying a few grand to sell your home and getting it done quickly and efficiently is seen by the majority of home buyers as the only way - perhaps it's fair to say it's a necessary evil.

However you look at it, moving home is extremely stressful - let someone else take the stress.

I have to say that I am not an estate agent. I am property investor and internet developer who deals with estate agents.
#13
I can see it from both ways, as I was an estate agent a few years back...

at the time it was the only way to sell as Internet sites werent around, however finding a good estate agent is the key and also being realistic about what can be achieved

Unfortunetly there are agents that will value a house to get it on the market with a view of reducing you later on and others that really dont care less. There are some good ones out there, look hard

I always think that you should go in visit with the agent see how your treated, even if you arent buying in the area, do they spent time explaining a certain house to you, do they qualify you when you walk in

Then choose your agent based upon that, negotiate if another agent is charging less, but you really want to use another, then ask

What I found and still do, People think they know better than the experts and to be honest they dont always - the solicitor again is an important choice - a local one used to blame the estate agent for everything - dont use them and certainly never go for the cheapest unless they are highly recommended

if you are deaing with someone willing to blame others then they are not the right person for you...they should try and smooth the path. It is not always easy and unfortunetly not all Estate agents are trained and some can be young and too easily focused on commission - however they are under alot of pressure to deliver - this is not their fault but from above and this is the reason I feel that some come across as not "customer friendly"

However what I would say is that a good estate agent and I know a few, will work very hard to get the sale through for you, they will chase the solicitor the chain and the buyers on a regular basis

On the other side, sellers expect more, after all its a person you are dealing with not a machine and things do go wrong and the Estate Agent is there to get the brunt of it, even if it isnt their fault. The solicitor - well you wont have a go there and you cant tell the buyer to do one, so where do you vent your anger...the estate agent and this is where training is key, they need to calm you down, not aggrevate the situation - unfortunetly some take your rant as a personal threat and I'm afraid that isnt hard to do with most people

So dont blame the estate agent, make the right choice in the first place, but if you have made the mistake then be straight with them, tell them what you would like, follow things up, shouting the odds never gets you any where, it will just mean the people you have employed to help you will shut down and not want to...this goes with all professions (look at the signs in hospitals about abuse)

If an estate agent is rude (without reason) then calmly speak with the Manager explain why you are unhappy, if you were wrong they probably wont want to deal with you anyway and if they are wrong then try to come to a compromise and if its totally un-reversable try to use another agent.

Remember moving house is one of the most stressful times and as a estate agent I moved house nearly 4 times a week, I cared about my customers and therefore I was involved in each and every move....The same for the customer selling and the buying, emotions run high, its someone's LIFE are everyone has pressures.

Dont stick your house higher than it should be, ask the agent why it hasnt sold, even invite another agent out to see their points, take on board what they are saying - speak with the valuer, why hasnt it sold take advise and treat people as you wish to be treated...

and chase it up, do this as a normal routine, I know your paying but it doesnt hurt and can mean a better relationship with the whole process...

Ps I'm selling and buying at the moment also so I do know what I am talking about
#14
Oddfellow
I woudl urge caution to anyone who's considering selling their home without an estate agent.

EA's provide a service that most of us don't see. They actively market property to people who are interested in buying. They know the area and are trained at negotiating. They vet clients before providing a viewing and act as a professional conduit during the sale process - this is invaluable in a chain.

Saving a couple of grand is indeed very tempting and I see that there are people here balking at £100 or so.

Put it this way, £100 is a lot of money if you get sod all out of it. Paying a few grand to sell your home and getting it done quickly and efficiently is seen by the majority of home buyers as the only way - perhaps it's fair to say it's a necessary evil.

However you look at it, moving home is extremely stressful - let someone else take the stress.

I have to say that I am not an estate agent. I am property investor and internet developer who deals with estate agents.

what a joke!
have you ever been vetted before viewing a house? i have not. i have just walked in, asked to view, and 30 mins later im in the house, and all they had from me was my name and address which i didnt verify in any way. could of made it up.

plus what active marketing do they do? i know from experience a lot of agents have said they dont have a property of a particular type when they do as my friends was advertised with them.
all they generally do is stick it in the local paper and in their window.

and as for being vital in a chain. most solicitors will agree agents are generally a hinderance, as they are just another person in the link, whereas if the seller is dealing direct they can be spoken to direct, not chinese wispers through an agent. which jsut adds delays.

as for trained negotiators, yeh they are trained, to get a sale that suits them! they are only working for themselves. not for the buyer or seller. they are only after getting the best for them. and we all know about the dodgy dealings they do with offers etc..

sure use one if you like, but selling my house privately was a breeze.
#15
I think it depends on how hard you are willing to work to market your property and also manage potential buyers.
If you have the time and the nouse to do it yourself then why not.
Estate agents have given themselves a bad name and if people start to vote with their feet and market themsleves the agents will be forced to smarten up their act.

Having said all that my experiences have all been good with agents.
My only quibble is the amount they charge for what they do.
The costs really do not seem to equate to what they do. 10 digital photo's uploaded to a website and twenty colour fliers sent with 2nd class stamps is rarely worth several thousand pounds IMO. It's high time an agent offered a pay as you go option - whereby you pay pro rata for the service they give rather than a carte blanche price.
It cost no more to market a £500,000 house than a £150,000 but it'll cost you £3500 more at a fee of 1% (which is very low).
#16
Hillfly
I think it depends on how hard you are willing to work to market your property and also manage potential buyers.
If you have the time and the nouse to do it yourself then why not.
Estate agents have given themselves a bad name and if people start to vote with their feet and market themsleves the agents will be forced to smarten up their act.

Having said all that my experiences have all been good with agents.
My only quibble is the amount they charge for what they do.
The costs really do not seem to equate to what they do. 10 digital photo's uploaded to a website and twenty colour fliers sent with 2nd class stamps is rarely worth several thousand pounds IMO. It's high time an agent offered a pay as you go option - whereby you pay pro rata for the service they give rather than a carte blanche price.
It cost no more to market a £500,000 house than a £150,000 but it'll cost you £3500 more at a fee of 1% (which is very low).

thats my point, it took me less time to sell myself. most agents are pretty poor about viewings unless the house is empty. they generally end up witht eh seller conducting the viewing, or certainly round here they do.

it took me 20 mins at home to get my house online. and then 20 mins each for a few viewings. it would of took me more time and effort than that to speak to an agent.
#17
crunchiespg
what a joke!
have you ever been vetted before viewing a house? i have not. i have just walked in, asked to view, and 30 mins later im in the house, and all they had from me was my name and address which i didnt verify in any way. could of made it up.

plus what active marketing do they do? i know from experience a lot of agents have said they dont have a property of a particular type when they do as my friends was advertised with them.
all they generally do is stick it in the local paper and in their window.

and as for being vital in a chain. most solicitors will agree agents are generally a hinderance, as they are just another person in the link, whereas if the seller is dealing direct they can be spoken to direct, not chinese wispers through an agent. which jsut adds delays.

as for trained negotiators, yeh they are trained, to get a sale that suits them! they are only working for themselves. not for the buyer or seller. they are only after getting the best for them. and we all know about the dodgy dealings they do with offers etc..

sure use one if you like, but selling my house privately was a breeze.


Not that I want to get into a debate but...

When a property came onto the market I called everyone on my mailing list that it would be suitable for...I visited the property before it went on the market to check it out so I knew what I was selling

Then I would mail everyone again within the limits of the property to the rest of the mailing list

I would like to think I got at least 2-7 viewings from my CAREFULLY recorded mailing list and did not reply on the window, the paper etc

If we had a buyer who desperately wanted a particular area, we would mailshot the area for them....didnt have to do this, but it worked both ways they got a house in the area and of course we got the commission

IF THEY DONT QUALIFY YOU MOVE ON...

I met with some pompous estate agent in the 7 years that I was one and too be honest some of them appauled me....especially the cut throats in London

some would sell their grannies to get a sale

Please dont Tar all estate agent, they have a bad name but I know some DECENT ones who will do anything to help -

And I have to say in my experience, most of the Gazumping was being done by the Vendors, after all, if a vendor wants to continue viewing and accepting offers, the estate agent can do two things, refuse to sell the house or do as they are told....fortunetly I have only had a few instances where the Vendor has accepted the offer and then insisted that the house is fully marketed up to the day of completion, which is WRONG

Also when sellers and buyers do speak somethimes things get heated and it ends up on being a personal fight and I'm sorry but that isnt worth it

I agreed that if you are in a prominent position and you have the confidence to deal yourself then do it

NOT ALL ESTATE AGENTS ARE THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!
#18
Ex estate agent here (sorry)

Never known anyone sell their home through one of these sites before.

* They do not have anything like the advertising clout of an estate agent.
* You have to deal with the (lying) potential buyers
* You have to do your own viewings
* You will be bombarded with fraud (419) emails
* The buyer will negotiate much harder as it is a private sale

But.....

If you do manage to sell at an ok price for £100 costs then it is a result.
#19
Badgers
Ex estate agent here (sorry)

Never known anyone sell their home through one of these sites before.

* They do not have anything like the advertising clout of an estate agent.
* You have to deal with the (lying) potential buyers
* You have to do your own viewings
* You will be bombarded with fraud (419) emails
* The buyer will negotiate much harder as it is a private sale

But.....

If you do manage to sell at an ok price for £100 costs then it is a result.

they use the same websites AND more than local agents. 70% of people find houses online and then simply contact the agent for viewings. partner this with a free ad in the local paper and the onl thing you are missing is the agents window. i know when i look for a new house i dont bother contacting agents, takes too long, just look on fish4homes. so does everyone i know.

we had to do our own viewings anyway even with an agent on our last sale.

didnt get a single fraud email. correct, not one.

got my desired price, and in fact did better than i would of with an agent as saved on commision.

total cost was £60 to sell.

so how can you comment if you dont know anyone who has sold through this method?
#20
Badgers

* You have to do your own viewings


I've always had to do my own viewings whenever I've instructed an agent anyway :roll:
#21
ctafield
I've always had to do my own viewings whenever I've instructed an agent anyway :roll:


With the estate agents we have had in the past there was an option to show people around for you, generally we prefered to show people around ourselves though rather than all have to disappear out of the house and standaround until the viewing was over.

When buying our latest house we must have looked around 30 or more houses and only 3 of those was with agents.
#22
I remember we had a buyer once who had managed to frauduently get a mortgage offer, the solicitor didnt do the solvency check for bankrupcy until the day of completion and it all fell through on the day of exchange and completion

the agent got the blame!! because the client had lied! and fiddled
#23
Any way of avoiding Estate Agents has to be good news, the majority that I have come across are greedy and conniving bandits.
#24
disease
Having had a bad experience of being shouted at by staff at Haart (they don't have any) when selling my late mothers house we don't have a lot of confidence with estate agents so we might give this a try, as we are going to be both buying & selling shortly.


Haart a rubbish, We had our house with them and they just messed us about.

We used Romans : http://www.romans.co.uk they were ok. :thumbsup:
#25
tlck9
I remember we had a buyer once who had managed to frauduently get a mortgage offer, the solicitor didnt do the solvency check for bankrupcy until the day of completion and it all fell through on the day of exchange and completion

the agent got the blame!! because the client had lied! and fiddled


Our chain of seven people were hoping to exchange on a Monday and complete on the Friday. I phoned our solicitor to check everything was in place our end on Friday before exchange and he said he would call me back after looking at our file - he didn't; I emailed him Friday evening to say I would be phoning him first thing Monday for an update and I got an automated reply saying he would be away for a week which messed up the whole chain. The estate agent done a great job of chasing all in the chain and keeping abreast of problems/delays whereas the solicitors didn't seem to care. I guess everyone's experience is different, but it seems good estate agents and solicitors are as rare as hen's teeth.
#26
sorry duplicated, keep having this problem



Erics, you are quite correct, having been a Good one...good estate agents and hen teeth seems fair...

I won awards for the work I performed, Customers returned to me when they needed to move on and in general we seemed to have less problems than the other estates agents....I heard alsorts of terrible stories where they would cancel an appointment for the other agents so they would look good, terrible and this is what gives them a bad name

in all I agreed, if estate agents did what they said they would people wouldnt get the hump, but also, clients were inclined to hear what they wanted to hear rather than what they were being told...but again this is down to stressful situations

but agreed, in general they want money and do not perform as well as they should and I noticed recently where I was buying that some of the agents had actually taken proper qualifications to carry out the job...which I say is fair. I had an awful lot of training, from solicitor awareness, to common housing problems, to chain management

But that was along time ago and the agent mentioned in the forum, well has been taken over by a london firm, I say no more
#27
tlck9
in all I agreed, if estate agents did what they said they would people wouldnt get the hump, but also, clients were inclined to hear what they wanted to hear rather than what they were being told...but again this is down to stressful situations


I have heard many people say their house has not sold "because the estate agent is useless", its never because their house is on for too much, needs a lot or work, is not well presented, etc. etc. A good estate agent will be honest and tell you the faults and issues with your house and give you a realistic price, but I think some tell you you'll get more for it just to try and tempt you to go with them in the belief they wil be able to get you a higher price.
#28
:thumbsup: Great site, just registered and put my house on there. I've got a 3 bed house and I'm currently selling it to a neighbour, so i'm not going through an estate agent but now the HIP's for 3 bed's starts on the 10th of September i need to get it advertised officially to cover myself incase it falls through for what ever reason. I was going to pay £99 and do it through another online website but now i've done it with this one and also with [url]www.myownmove.com[/url] which is also free. Many thanks for a great post - voted Hot!!!!!
#29
erics
I have heard many people say their house has not sold "because the estate agent is useless", its never because their house is on for too much, needs a lot or work, is not well presented, etc. etc. A good estate agent will be honest and tell you the faults and issues with your house and give you a realistic price, but I think some tell you you'll get more for it just to try and tempt you to go with them in the belief they wil be able to get you a higher price.

True. The problem is there are way too many agents in the latter state. Once you've signed your pretty screwed if you want to instruct a new agent or even sell it yourself. When they say they have thousands of properties 'on their books' they tend to mean just that, stuck in a book and not on show.

In the near future i'm planning to put my house on the market, no rush, but i'm not a lazy seller. I've done research on selling prices locally, looked at the 'competition' that has sold well and tbh don't think i'll have too much problem selling as the majority round here have rather odd tastes in internal decor or loads of junk in their pictures. So bottom line, presentation sells and if you must suffer the evils of an EA, VET them first by posing as a prospective buyer about a month before putting your house on the market. Go with the one that trys to sell YOU a house the hardest;-)
banned#30
They're not on rightmove, that's enough for me.
#31
Just remember, if your house isnt on before 17th Sept (I think this is the right date) and you've 3 beds you'll be subject to the HIPS...
#32
"EA's provide a service that most of us don't see. They actively market property to people who are interested in buying. They know the area and are trained at negotiating. They vet clients before providing a viewing and act as a professional conduit during the sale process - this is invaluable in a chain".

Sorry Oddfellow no I don't agree. They DON'T vet clients. Not one single one that we have used to view houses have vetted us in anyway at all. They don't know my area and don't know anything about my house. They are just on a get rich quick mission. it is money for old rope.
#33
Badgers
Ex estate agent here (sorry)

Never known anyone sell their home through one of these sites before.

* They do not have anything like the advertising clout of an estate agent.
* You have to deal with the (lying) potential buyers
* You have to do your own viewings
* You will be bombarded with fraud (419) emails
* The buyer will negotiate much harder as it is a private sale

But.....

If you do manage to sell at an ok price for £100 costs then it is a result.


Most people do viewings when the agent is there with the seller anyway!! There are lots of Sunday afternoon nothing better to do viewers that go through agents. They DONT VET ANYBODY. IME. If you sell/buy privately then you can't hide behind an agent. People are more likely to be honest and likely to come and view and not just for the fun of it. IMO. :)
#34
Do you get a "FOR SALE" board with these Internet Estate Agents???? If so then how do you get it?? Through the post?:? :?
#35
Another alternative Ive found is:

http://wisegiraffe.co.uk

New website.........
#36
ziggyup5446
Do you get a "FOR SALE" board with these Internet Estate Agents???? If so then how do you get it?? Through the post?:? :?


You best bet is to stick a for sale sign on the front windows. :thumbsup:

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