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Should WE! Britain have got involved with the war in Libya?

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5y, 8m agoPosted 5 years, 8 months ago
Britain “cannot stand back” and let the Libyan dictator kill his people indiscriminately.
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#1
It WAS the united nations tho
#2
Oh ok but is it right that we are now involved?
1 Like #3
Wait for the inquiry in 5 years time.
#4
So you say that the Libyan dictator is killing people indiscriminately, and Britain cannot stand back.
You now know that the UN has sanctioned action.

What was your question again?
banned 1 Like #5
Well we do let other dictators kill their people indiscriminately, wonder what's different here...
banned#6
UN sanctioned military action. Britain is a member of the UN Security Council. Britain (believe it or not given the swingeing cuts made by our government) is a military superpower. Hence the reason we are involved.

That and oil
#7
thesaint
So you say that the Libyan dictator is killing people indiscriminately, and Britain cannot stand back.
You now know that the UN has sanctioned action.

What was your question again?
What i mean is Britan has lost a lot of our armed forces in afgan? should we risk any more of our men?
banned 1 Like #8
ukmonkey
thesaint
So you say that the Libyan dictator is killing people indiscriminately, and Britain cannot stand back.
You now know that the UN has sanctioned action.

What was your question again?
What i mean is Britan has lost a lot of our armed forces in afgan? should we risk any more of our men?AND WOMEM
7 Likes #9
We all know it's Oil as Robert Mugabe knows no one will touch him in Zimbabwe because they have none & he's using the same violence as Muammar Gaddafi using.
#10
someone said on the radio today, why do Britain think they police the world?

what a load of rubbish, this was a NATO move, instigated by the French.
#11
ukmonkey
thesaint
So you say that the Libyan dictator is killing people indiscriminately, and Britain cannot stand back.
You now know that the UN has sanctioned action.

What was your question again?

What i mean is Britan has lost a lot of our armed forces in afgan? should we risk any more of our men?


what, 2 aircraft pilots is hardly a full scale ground invasion is it?
#12
OP

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Britain “cannot stand back” and let the Libyan dictator kill his people indiscriminately.
But I thought it was up to the United Nations to get us involved?

have you watched the news in past 24 hours with deaf ears and shut eyes???



Edited By: garbage456 on Mar 20, 2011 10:10
#13
they probably met up in paris to decide how much oil each country gets. Britain is not doing it because civilians are being killed. Why is no one saying anything about bahrain, yemen or even sudan?
banned#14
Can't wait til all the world's oil runs out.
1 Like #15
stupid britain, why o why do we poke our noses into other country's affairs- economic cost and human loss tut tut

we cant afford to educate our kids, look after the sick yet afford going into war?

everytime theres slight conflict overseas we are the first to run out there, time is getting closer to the day when all this interference will bite us on the bum

i mean we are a small island roughly 600miles from london to scotland, planes travel 600mph so our country could be destroyed in a mattter of couple hours

scary
banned 1 Like #16
sedd33
stupid britain, why o why do we poke our noses into other country's affairs- economic cost and human loss tut tut

we cant afford to educate our kids, look after the sick yet afford going into war?

everytime theres slight conflict overseas we are the first to run out there, time is getting closer to the day when all this interference will bite us on the bum

i mean we are a small island roughly 600miles from london to scotland, planes travel 600mph so our country could be destroyed in a mattter of couple hours

scary


Because we are a generally good people, fortunate to have more than a lot of other countries and we see it as our responsibility to step in and prevent the murder of innocent people.
banned#17
bykergrove
Can't wait til all the world's oil runs out.


And the Middle East becomes pointless. Can't wait.
4 Likes #18
If theirs a war, Were in.

One word "Oil"

Who's the real dictator?
banned#19
shauneco
If theirs a war, Were in.

One word "Oil"

Who's the real dictator?


Is it George W. Bush?
#20
how many years did it take for them to acknowledge Gaddafi as a dictator, blair had such a nice relationship too, selling arms to them...
[mod]#21
bykergrove
Can't wait til all the world's oil runs out.


And then it will be survival of the fittest which will see Europe, USA and China prosper as they export so many things whereas the middle east will have no bargaining power and they will die out in mass poverty and internal wars. oO
1 Like #22
To be honest I have a feeling we'll kill more civilian's than the dictator himself, Perhaps the best coarse of action would of been to track him down secretly and remove him from power.

We shouldn't sit around and let them kill their own people, Action needed to be taken, Good call from the UN.
#23
shauneco
To be honest I have a feeling we'll kill more civilian's than the dictator himself, Perhaps the best coarse of action would of been to track him down secretly and remove him from power.

We shouldn't sit around and let them kill their own people, Action needed to be taken, Good call from the UN.
agree ^
banned#24
Syzable
bykergrove
Can't wait til all the world's oil runs out.


And then it will be survival of the fittest which will see Europe, USA and China prosper as they export so many things whereas the middle east will have no bargaining power and they will die out in mass poverty and internal wars. oO


Indeed. We wouldn't have to keep making concessions to these Medieval countries in the middle east who offer nothing but oil reserves to the world. Well, oil and terrorism.
#25
bykergrove
Can't wait til all the world's oil runs out.


I can, I'll be out of a job :(
#26
FilthAndFurry
Syzable
bykergrove
Can't wait til all the world's oil runs out.

And then it will be survival of the fittest which will see Europe, USA and China prosper as they export so many things whereas the middle east will have no bargaining power and they will die out in mass poverty and internal wars. oO

Indeed. We wouldn't have to keep making concessions to these Medieval countries in the middle east who offer nothing but oil reserves to the world. Well, oil and terrorism.


so getting your knockers out and binge drinking is a better way of life?


no grans get mugged in the middle east, you have kids playing out in the dark without fear of crime


nor do women get raped




Edited By: sedd33 on Mar 20, 2011 10:53
#27
War in Libya isn't,wholly a accurate imo given it's notreally war. Qaddafi's repression while a no fly zone is imposed. !=war

100 tomahawks etc to destroy a 1950's Soviet era air defense system.
But stll with thousands of troops that can terrorist, bully and murder the civilian populations.

I'm more scared for their humanitarian state for the young, vulnerable, and it'll get worse.
Not to mention historical failure with the west bombing libya, again.

How UK, FR, USA intend to replace that power vacuum wi sickeningly amusing weare doomed to repeat history again.

Syzable, was there a was magnificent offer from theUK that I've missed??? whichmakesus so much better?

as if we have any right to take any moral hig ground atall.

Blair was all over gadaffii hoping to tap those resources under british names.
I can't see gaddafi waiting in a a hole like saddam though.given the new arabtrend to hide in a neighboours country


Edited By: schizoboy on Mar 20, 2011 11:05: .
banned#28
You do know that europe, usa and china run on oil?

The middle east have emmense wealth, are building a finanial hub and increasing tourism revenue streams.

In b4 f&f

Syzable
bykergrove
Can't wait til all the world's oil runs out.


And then it will be survival of the fittest which will see Europe, USA and China prosper as they export so many things whereas the middle east will have no bargaining power and they will die out in mass poverty and internal wars. oO



Edited By: aScottishBloke on Mar 20, 2011 14:03: OTT Comment - removed - member advised.
banned#29
sedd33
FilthAndFurry
Syzable
bykergrove
Can't wait til all the world's oil runs out.


And then it will be survival of the fittest which will see Europe, USA and China prosper as they export so many things whereas the middle east will have no bargaining power and they will die out in mass poverty and internal wars. oO


Indeed. We wouldn't have to keep making concessions to these Medieval countries in the middle east who offer nothing but oil reserves to the world. Well, oil and terrorism.



so getting your knockers out and binge drinking is a better way of life?


no grans get mugged in the middle east, you have kids playing out in the dark without fear of crime


nor do women get raped



I wouldn't personally make those choices, but I wouldn't punish someone who wanted to if it didn't harm anyone else. Nice bit of personal freedoms there.

But it's nice to know that never has a woman in the middle east had intercourse against her will. You should phone Guinness.
#30
well we have over $150billon invisted in oil there (BP), so obviously we should duhh

Are we really there because of Gadffi killing people? HELL NO, because we would of kicked Murgabe out alot time ago because he is doing it on a daily basis. We are there mealy to proect our investments and nothing else.

Edited By: black gerbil1 on Mar 20, 2011 10:57
banned#31
bykergrove
You do know that europe, usa and china run on oil?

The middle east have emmense wealth, are building a finanial hub and increasing tourism revenue streams.

In b4 f&f trolls like a little bitch.

Syzable
bykergrove
Can't wait til all the world's oil runs out.


And then it will be survival of the fittest which will see Europe, USA and China prosper as they export so many things whereas the middle east will have no bargaining power and they will die out in mass poverty and internal wars. oO


The middle east is built on oil. I like seeing places like Dubai try and become 'fashionable' but those attempts are just very, very tacky and once the oil has gone, the whole allure will go.
[mod] 1 Like #32
bykergrove
You do know that europe, usa and china run on oil?

The middle east have emmense wealth, are building a finanial hub and increasing tourism revenue streams.

In b4 f&f trolls like a little bitch.

Syzable
bykergrove
Can't wait til all the world's oil runs out.


And then it will be survival of the fittest which will see Europe, USA and China prosper as they export so many things whereas the middle east will have no bargaining power and they will die out in mass poverty and internal wars. oO


We do but we also have nuclear and other energy technologies in place.

The mass wealth is with individuals and royal states and not governments.........Dubaii got hit very hard by the world recession and is in dire trouble with debt repayments.

I've not said anything derogatory about the middle east at all but i see that my reply has already started some anti-uk replies which is the way these threads usually end up so i shall leave the thread to be derailed and turned inot another racial fighting thread which will end up spammed.
2 Likes #33
UN or NATO is simply a cover for actions taken by the G8 ( read the rich and powerful ).
Both organisations have become a laughing matter.

To give an example, where were these organisations when there was a genocide happening in Sri Lanka ?
banned#34
After japan, the international's appetite for nuclear power has taken a massive knock. Other energies are negligible compared to oil.

I do agree with the point on wealth distribution. Same can be said for china, us, europe too.

I'm going to leave the thread at this point also, cue f&f to troll some more since he has nothing better to do.
banned#35
bykergrove
After japan, the international's appetite for nuclear power has taken a massive knock. Other energies are negligible compared to oil.

I do agree with the point on wealth distribution. Same can be said for china, us, europe too.

I'm going to leave the thread at this point also, cue f&f to troll some more since he has nothing better to do.


We're not just talking about nuclear power though. There are other alternatives vying for supremacy and the race will be to offer systems that take advantage of these. That means the economic superpowers of Europe, the Far East and America will regain supremacy, whilst the middle east economies who rely so heavily on oil will fall back.

The desire for a World Cup or a F1 race in a desert will not be there when you can't do OIL business before and after the match. The money to invest (which is the only reason anyone goes to the UAE for example) will simply not be there when the oil isn't there, or isn't as great as it once was.

Governments will fall, and turmoil will reign.
1 Like #36
There is now no choice as to whether the British Government becomes involved in conflict in Libya because they already have. They have a long and sordid history of involvement in this region including ongoing and recent arms sales to this and many other dictators.

The UN is not a compassionate policeman as some like to think but a tool used by powerful governments to push their agenda.

The countries in control of the UN should not have been involved in Libya in the past and should not be now. That includes supplying arms to Gaddafi and air strikes. The people of Libya have the power to end Gaddafi's rule and they can find real support from the populations other countries in the region who are also resisting their own dictators, not from those that seek to control the country for their own gains. A look at what these powers have done for democracy in Afghanistan and Iraq shows the real motivation is about control and oil and never democracy and freedom.
banned#37
Plum
CTRL + C

CTRL +V


Fixed.
#38
So once this regime is removed, who is going to run the place?
banned#39
Inactive
So once this regime is removed, who is going to run the place?


That's part of the fun of allowing people to have a choice - no-one knows. Hopefully it's someone who has a mandate and from our own point of view, someone who is fairly progressive in terms of international relations and not another dictator.
#40
There is an old saying, better the devil that you know.(_;)

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