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Should Men have to wear Ties for work?

ClintEast Avatar
9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
Hi

I work for a large company and today we have been told there is a certain dress code being enforced (See below).

It is important to ensure that we all present ourselves at work in an appropriate way that portrays the desired image of the business and takes account of the expectations and interests of those we are dealing with – be they customers, suppliers or any other visitors.

Since 2004 the Group has required that business dress be worn throughout the week, other than Fridays when colleagues could wear casual dress. The guidance previously issued has been interpreted in many different ways and widely varying standards of dress are now worn on Fridays, and throughout the week.

From week beginning Monday 13 August 2007 the general standard of dress that must be adopted across the Trading Group throughout the week is ‘business dress’ and there will no longer be ‘Dress Down Friday’.

What Is Business Dress?

Business dress includes smart jackets, ties, shirts, blouses, tops, tailored trousers or skirts and religious and cultural dress.

For Men

The minimum dress standard for men is smart trousers, shoes, shirt (a short or long sleeved shirt with a collar, but not a polo shirt), tie and suit-style jacket. Lounge suits are optional.

For Women

The minimum standard for women is a smart dress, trousers or skirt with a smart blouse, shirt or top and smart footwear.

If your normal style of dress cannot be accommodated within the above guidelines, please raise any issues with your line manager.

In the event of a disagreement over a matter of dress, the business view will take priority and line managers will have the last say about what standards should apply.

Any deliberate and/or persistent abuse of the guidelines may result in disciplinary action.

The Group will review the Dress Code and its impact from time to time but if in the meantime you have any queries, please speak to your manager.



I wondered if anyone (Male/Female) has an opinion on whether guys should have to wear ties for work?

My personal opinion is no. It is down to the inidividual if they want to wear a tie. I find them restrictive and in this heat (Well at least today its warm here) can make me even more hotter.

Anyone else have an opinion?

Clint
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9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
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#1
No, but it does make them look smarter, but yes it is a choice, at my last employer women were allowed to wear t shirts but men werent and we were forced to wear staff shirts and ties, and at weekend it was more laid back but still men werent allowed to wear jeans and women were.

It's just our pc society
#2
It depends what the job is. I wouldn't expect a builder to be wearing a tie... but if I was speaking to the manager of a shop I'd expect him to be dressed smartly and yes, that would include a tie.
#3
I think there is nothing sexier than a man in a suit with his tie pulled down.
Might be my age though.:oops:
Also top button undone.:whistling:
banned#4
If a dress code is expected of you when you go for a job then you cannot complain.

Many people wear uniforms as part of their job.

I cannot see a problem with it as it promotes a certain image that is important in business.

For instance, I wouldn't expect to go to the Solicitors, and he is sitting in shorts and flip-flops.
banned#5
susanemily
I think there is nothing sexier than a man in a suit with his tie pulled down.
Might be my age though.:oops:
Also top button undone.:whistling:


I agree with that as well.

Maybe us women will all be voting yes to the tie:thumbsup:
#6
Oops forgot to say that, yeah I like a nice sexy girl in a tie or the librarian/business woman look with top button of blouse undone glasses on hair slightly messy and a pencil getting chewed whilst her legs are crossed and shes got a book or something in front lol
#7
Also I think its in context like Prissymiss said, but my last employer was a call centre so when do your customers see you?

Now a shirt without a tie is still smart
#8
Hmm I voted no, Simply because I hate the office "Who has the nicer tie" that goes on............. lol!
#9
just because i find nothing more sexier than a man in a shirt and tie ive had to vote yes!! although builders wearing ties wouldnt do anything for me! men should wear ties all the time just for my pleasure!!:giggle:
#10
ryouga
Oops forgot to say that, yeah I like a nice sexy girl in a tie or the librarian/business woman look with top button of blouse undone glasses on hair slightly messy and a pencil getting chewed whilst her legs are crossed and shes got a book or something in front lol


http://www.grimstveit.no/jakob/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/EE130C.350X200.G.jpg
#11
Iom-RF
Hmm I voted no, Simply because I hate the office "Who has the nicer tie" that goes on............. lol!


thats some poor quality office banter.

It aint too strict when I am at the moment, I wear a shirt everyday, sometimes with a tie sometimes without, depending on my mood. If I have a meeting with a client I always wear a tie.
#12
Forcing male workers to wear a tie is a form of sex discrimination. If the women aren't required to then why should the men?

This issue was brought to light by a bunch of male council office workers fed up with wearing ties. The council had to concede and off came the ties.

However in reality for most of us to get along you have to tow the line.
#13
emasu
http://www.grimstveit.no/jakob/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/EE130C.350X200.G.jpg


Marry me?!
#14
Hehe, MinstrelMan just proposed to Emasu!!
#15
I propossed to whoever is in that picture - I wanna lick her heels and smell that chair :lol:
#16
Ewwwwwww
#17
MinstrelMan, How about supporting Firefox?

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#18
WTF 9100 posts already IOM?, cant complain though the amount of posts I made the last week.

Lol its funny how the women are voting yes and the men no lol
#19
na, just the one will do thank IOM, besides im waaaaay outta her league :lol:
#20
ryouga
WTF 9100 posts already IOM?, cant complain though the amount of posts I made the last week.


Lol, To think Ducky was going to post 12 posts to catch up with my post count last week! :giggle:
#21
duckmagicuk2
Hehe, MinstrelMan just proposed to Emasu!!


:|
#22
right home time for me. feel free to post more women though
#23
I wear jeans and either a shirt or t-shirt to work depending on what mood i'm in (and what's actually clean!). I think i'd look pretty sharp in a suit and tie but the company doesn't call for it. It'd also be pretty uncomfortable with all the charging about we do and the lack of air con.

One of our nearby rivals (who shall remain nameless) requires their staff to be dressed in suits yet we reckon we've taken a vast number of customers off their hands in the few years we have been open. In the end it comes down to beating them on design skills and printing price - not whether we're wearing a tie or not.

Oh yeah... I just got back from a heroic stag do in Prague - What did I miss? :)
#24
I can't wear a tie in my job so I 'm voting no.
#25
In the majority of jobs companys have a uniform - the only difference in ours is that women have the choice in wether they wear skirts or trousers (the skirts are awful - so no shock as to why no-one wears them!!)

If im speaking to a manager, a male employee at a bank or someone of importance I would expect them to wear a tie. If they were an assistant at some store ie Comet then I wouldnt.
#26
Its all visual then, why do people dont give any respect to people without a tie as if wearing one makes them important but women dont need a tie to give them a role of trust.
#27
I work for my council, and we wear ties (unless its hot,then we wear the same just tie less), apart from on fridays when we can dress down.Unless we have a meeting,
[helper]#28
I have been told (by more than one person) that during the really hot summer of 1976 an official memo was issued by the civil service giving permission for men to remove their ties.......

IMO smart casual should be fine for most of the time but for important meetings then I feel more comfortable in a tie. Only ever wear suits for funerals, weddings and interviews.....
banned#29
I've a job for a man wearing a tie like this:oops:
banned#30
Prissymiss
I've a job for a man wearing a tie like this:oops:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8527/nudemanwithtieonphotogrlb6.jpg
By prissymiss at 2007-08-07
#31
I don't mind ties - but then it's rare to catch me out of a suit on a weekday. Not to everyone's taste though so no we shouldn't have to - but it does create an impression. If your in an air con office (/Britain 99% of the time) it's no excuse to blame the weather for ditching one.
banned#32
For everyone who doesn't agree with dress code making an impression.

Would you think it appropriate for Doctors/Surgeons etc to be treating you whilst wearing shorts and no top just because of the weather.

If you cannot abide with the dress code, then get a job elsewhere.

It's just a case of people being told what they can and cannot do and not liking it as always.

Its a little tie for christs sake not a bloody straight jacket.:whistling:
#33
Shorts & no top is a little more extreme than ditching a tie.
Health & safety issues there after all.
banned#34
seancampbell
Shorts & no top is a little more extreme than ditching a tie.
Health & safety issues there after all.


I was making a point thats all, it starts with the tie then it'll be something else.
#35
like womens underware...... yipeeeee lol
#36
Prissymiss
I was making a point thats all, it starts with the tie then it'll be something else.


True but would you expect a female doctor to wear a tie? Does that make her any less professional / efficient?
banned#37
seancampbell
True but would you expect a female doctor to wear a tie? Does that make her any less professional / efficient?


Its just how it is, ties are a mans thing. Would you expect men to wear skirts for equality.

It's not a case of equal rights. In most uniformed jobs you will find a male and female version.
#38
That was my point a few posts up when I said about the solictior.

For things like call centres why should men be forced to wear a tie when the consumer never sees them, unless the big boss comes for a visit, as in the 4 call centres I worked in I constantly see women with t shirts and a blouse which is unfair.

Now I think in most cases a ties optional, but id rather trust someone in a bank without a tie than someone with as it feels they are going for appearance more than depth
#39
Prissymiss
Its just how it is, ties are a mans thing. Would you expect men to wear skirts for equality.

It's not a case of equal rights. In most uniformed jobs you will find a male and female version.


Isnt that sexist towards women? are you saying women shouldnt wear a tie as they arent a man?

As I say its a mere fomality that is outdated, I mean women can now wear trousers yet men havent got the flexibility to have that choice.

I find ties stuffy.
banned#40
Its just a little piece of material, loosen it a little and its not going to make you any hotter than you would be without it.

Men:roll:

Try wearing a bra then you will know about feeling restricted and hot.

Ready for the quips:roll:

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