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for the 1st year after passing their test? i dont think it will make any different what so ever Read More
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1d, 4m agoPosted 1 decade, 4 months ago
for the 1st year after passing their test?

i dont think it will make any different what so ever
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1d, 4m agoPosted 1 decade, 4 months ago
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#1
I don’t see the point to be honest, as do we (as in people who have been driving for longer than a year) treat new drivers (with Ps) any differently?
#2
I do try an have a little more tolerance if i am behind a 'p' plate:viking: :whistling:, but i think 12 months is a little excessive - maybe 3/6? If you have had a license for a year, and still driving in a rookie or over cautious way - driving is not for you:?
#3
i had my license just over a year aswell i am more tolerance with them but i know when i had mine on 4 about a week most drivers couldnt wait 2 over take me.
#4
I haven't passed yet (got my test on wednesday) I wont be using p plates when i do. The way other drivers treat you when you have "L" plates on is bad enough. I dont plan on letting them do the same with a "P" plate on!!!!
banned 1 Like #5
even better idea than the P plate.... all new young drivers should only be allowed to drive those smart cars :giggle: for the first 10 years :whistling: :whistling:
#6
good luvk wiv your test BECKYBOO
#7
I know a lot of new drivers who are better than experienced drivers I know.
#8
dog_cop
even better idea than the P plate.... all new young drivers should only be allowed to drive those smart cars :giggle: for the first 10 years :whistling: :whistling:

Do we have such a need for SO many mobile hairdressers:whistling:
#9
BECKYBOO
I haven't passed yet (got my test on wednesday) I wont be using p plates when i do. The way other drivers treat you when you have "L" plates on is bad enough. I dont plan on letting them do the same with a "P" plate on!!!!


Good luck! I am sure that you will do fine, will be thinking of you on wednesday. What time you taking your test????? Will have to tell us how you do
#10
Germany has a good scheme which we have partially adopted.

Where here if you are guilty of any offence within2 years of passing you need to redo the test.

In Germany they have similar and limit the power of the car you can own.

Motorcycles have tiers of licensing depending on the power of your car.
Depending on your age this should also apply here really.
Before anythign thinks im agist and anti young people, im in my late 20's and frankly I shouldn't of been on the road at 17 with my parents car :oops:
banned#11
kelly_o_fanatic
Good luck! I am sure that you will do fine, will be thinking of you on wednesday. What time you taking your test????? Will have to tell us how you do



Note to self..... stay indoors on Wednesday :whistling:
banned#12
schizoboy
Germany has a good scheme which we have partially adopted.

Where here if you are guilty of any offence within2 years of passing you need to redo the test.

In Germany they have similar and limit the power of the car you can own.

Motorcycles have tiers of licensing depending on the power of your car.
Depending on your age this should also apply here really.
Before anythign thinks im agist and anti young people, im in my late 20's and frankly I shouldn't of been on the road at 17 with my parents car :oops:



The system here isnt so bad 6 points in the first year and bingo your back to training shoe status:giggle: and back to the test centre :whistling:
#13
schizoboy
Germany has a good scheme which we have partially adopted.

Where here if you are guilty of any offence within2 years of passing you need to redo the test.

In Germany they have similar and limit the power of the car you can own.

Motorcycles have tiers of licensing depending on the power of your car.
Depending on your age this should also apply here really.
Before anythign thinks im agist and anti young people, im in my late 20's and frankly I shouldn't of been on the road at 17 with my parents car :oops:

Damned good idea, and very honest
#14
dog_cop
The system here isnt so bad 6 points in the first year and bingo your back to training shoe status:giggle: and back to the test centre :whistling:


is the first two years
banned#15
esims84
is the first two years



another Note to self.... more study on the traffic legislation or fail my Sgt exam again:oops:
#16
Thanks guys:-D
#17
I never used the 'P' plates, as it encourages experienced drivers to try and climb in the boot, jump on the bonnet at junctions and overtake when you're actually at the speed limit.

So I went straight past 'P' without collecting £200 and straight into 'Drive like a tw*t', although not with any intention.
#18
Not sure P plates would make much difference.....

I'd like to see mandatory "refresher" training every 5 years. Sounds extreme but the standards of driving on the roads is pretty crap. I can pass my test at 18 and never have another test until I'm 75 or something. The number of people who overtake on blind bends astounds me. They're basically relying on you and the oncoming car braking so they can slip back in. Idiots...

There should be a radical change in the way we police our roads. All income from speed cameras should pay for more traffic police to catch the idiots.
#19
esims84
for the 1st year after passing their test?

i dont think it will make any different what so ever


WHat would be the fine if they didn't and how could it be effectively policed??

How about old people have to have a badge on their car to indicate they will be driving with the assumption that everyone else has all the time in the world ....
#20
Under 25's need to accept they are the more accident prone and dangerous on the road.
Sure OAPs might have more spacial awareness accidents, but it'll be at safe speeds, far more preferable to young people acting like idiots and risking peoples lives.

Look at insurance premiums, that pretty much proves it with young people so heavily penalised; admitedly a minority spoiling it for alot of young people but at the same time I'd rather the rest of the young people subcidise potential bad drivers than everyone pay for their immaturity and stupidness. I paid the premiums, others will do the same and with big brother facist technology booming, young peoples habits will be monitored live to their insurance premium
#21
Im 23, been driving for 4 years (5 years in Oct 2007)
I have never made a claim or hit someone else. The only damage done to my car was some 'old' biddy reversing out at Tesco car park, right into me! a small dink but I never pursued it. I should have done, but was unsure as it was a first accident kinda thing.

I agree with a re-test every 5 years or so, would make the roads safer!
#22
[COLOR=royalblue]The key to good driving is defencive driving, then you are driving for everyone else.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#4169e1]One group of people that really take the p... are POLICE drivers, the sooner they understand that they have as much rights as me to go through red lights the better. Also their use of the sirens are totally USELESS when confronting deaf people but as usual, they forget these common things when behind the wheel of their patrol car. And they have no right to drive in a dangerous manner, this includes things like driving at 60MPH in a 30MPH area.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#4169e1]I have noticed that bus drivers in London refuse to break red lights when an emergency vehicle is behind them probably because they don't want to go to court and explain why they jumped a red light. I also have adopted this measure but (in a selfish way) will not move for a police car if there is a camera on the lights but will try and do all I can to move out of the way for an ambulance or fire engine. [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#4169e1]Regardless of what anyone says, there is only one reason when you can go through a red light and the rules of the road does not say it is when a police car is behind you.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#4169e1]BTW full HGV & PSV licence for 24 years + and not one accident because I was taught to drive defensively.[/COLOR]
#23
Crazy1
[COLOR=royalblue]The key to good driving is defencive driving, then you are driving for everyone else.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=#4169e1]One group of people that really take the p... are POLICE drivers, the sooner they understand that they have as much rights as me to go through red lights the better. Also their use of the sirens are totally USELESS when confronting deaf people but as usual, they forget these common things when behind the wheel of their patrol car. And they have no right to drive in a dangerous manner, this includes things like driving at 60MPH in a 30MPH area.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=#4169e1]I have noticed that bus drivers in London refuse to break red lights when an emergency vehicle is behind them probably because they don't want to go to court and explain why they jumped a red light. I also have adopted this measure but (in a selfish way) will not move for a police car if there is a camera on the lights but will try and do all I can to move out of the way for an ambulance or fire engine. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=#4169e1]Regardless of what anyone says, there is only one reason when you can go through a red light and the rules of the road does not say it is when a police car is behind you.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=#4169e1]BTW full HGV & PSV licence for 24 years + and not one accident because I was taught to drive defensively.[/COLOR]


Interesting, I tend to do the same i think, more predicting of what every mistake everyone around me could possibly do that I can imagine and see with my LOS and presuming they might make it.

I;ve gone through a red light for a copper many other cars did the same, it was a massive junction of 3 lanes on each road, it was 3 unmarked cars in what looked very Special Branch/Scotland Yard and frankly I didn't want to **** off a armed policeman (de menezes anyone?)
Had there been red light cameras I might of thought twice...
#24
I'd like 2 other plates U for useless and E for erratic...that would definately make for safer roads as we'd all keep our distance and remain ever so alert whenever they came into our vision.

All the best with the test Beckyboo..is it from Hillcrest House in Harehills?...that was where tests were when I was in Leeds.
#25
I'm not hving P plates when I pass as for first few months I'll be driving my dads and he wont them stuck on when hes driving. Then I'll be getting my car (Rav 4 hopefully woo) and by then I'll have been driving a few months so won't want to stick them on. Saying that if I had my own car from 1st day I prob wouldnt bother with them as I'm a confident driver.
#26
When you pass your test, remember you are still learning! :thumbsup: Its all these other idiots you got to watch out for! :?
#27
i never used 'p' plates and would hate to be retested now i only passed about 4 yrs ago as i hated the thought of driving but now love the convenience of it .it took me 3 attempts purely because of nerves and i know i would be the same now .
#28
birdyboyuk
When you pass your test, remember you are still learning! :thumbsup: Its all these other idiots you got to watch out for! :?

spot on you have to be so alert.and what is it with rain that makes everyone drive like maniacs and people that pass and have never experienced icy conditions and still don't slow down .rant over drive carefully all :-D
#29
Regular tests every 5-10years would keep people up to date on rules, would make some people realise their extmremely bad habits on driving and generally remove more people from the road that just do no belong there.
#30
schizoboy
Regular tests every 5-10years would keep people up to date on rules, would make some people realise their extmremely bad habits on driving and generally remove more people from the road that just do no belong there.


Not always, as some maniacs do know how to drive properly and would easily keep passing their test.
#31
I still think they should limit the BHP/Engine size of new drivers - i.e., only allowed uptp a 1.2/80bhp until x amount of years driving experience, that way, you wouldn't have 17 year old kids buying cars they cant control !!
#32
i agree with you ChrisUK, as soon as you pass your test you can have any car you want
#33
I have a 1.0 litre Vauxhall Corsa. I can get 100 out of it at a push, so doesn't really matter if they limit the engine sizes etc. You can still speed, have a crash etc.
#34
pawsntails
Saying that if I had my own car from 1st day I prob wouldnt bother with them as I'm a confident driver.


confident or over-confident??
#35
birdyboyuk
I have a 1.0 litre Vauxhall Corsa. I can get 100 out of it at a push, so doesn't really matter if they limit the engine sizes etc. You can still speed, have a crash etc.


Where do you "get 100 out of it", on a race track or private road I assume?
#36
erics
Where do you "get 100 out of it", on a race track or private road I assume?



It was actually on the A5 (Milton Keynes). It was when I first got the car (bout 4 years ago), haven't done it since! :)
#37
my car can do 70 tops its an old car, but low insurance and low tax
#38
I made my car do 96 on the A6 ^_^ (Suprising seeing as the handbook says the top is 94)

When I passed, my driving instructor advised me not to put on 'P' plates. As people treat you just as a learner. i.e. Assume your driving very slowly and will pull out on you. Overtake you even when your doing a decent speed :| Cut you up etc.
banned#39
i dont think P plates would make that much of a difference
#40
i passed my test 6 yrs ago and have never driven since! does that make me a new driver?

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