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6y, 2m agoPosted 6 years, 2 months ago
anyone seen this, watched it last night and thought it was pretty good.
Never been a big fan of dicaprio but thought he was superb in this..
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6y, 2m agoPosted 6 years, 2 months ago
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banned#1
I bum that film.

Its epic.
#2
yeah watched it the other day. I thought it was good aswell.
#3
vibeone
I bum that film.Its epic.

lol, genius
#4
yeah watched it couple of weeks ago,v good film
#5
vibeone
I bum that film.Its epic.

:|
#6
Not as good as the hype said.

How drawn out was the ending?

Good idea, the ending was just too messy.
1 Like #7
i didn't hear any hype about it, so was surprised how awesome it was when i saw it.
#8
thought it was mediocre up until the last half hour then it just got terrible
#9
shedboy66
thought it was mediocre up until the last half hour then it just got terrible

Really, what did you not like ?
#10
Brilliant film, watched it a few times now on BR
banned#11
junkenstein73
shedboy66
thought it was mediocre up until the last half hour then it just got terrible


Really, what did you not like ?


It was kinda predictable. Decent acting and direction but it relied too much on the 'twist' at the end.
#12
Di Caprio is great. Nothing on Hanks tho :D
#13
I actually remember the film being very low key and not getting a lot of hype at all. Scorsese films tend not to get "mainstream" hype even though his recent films are solid box office winners, unlike his earlier critic gold but, mainstream public, leper rep.

Thought this was a very good film and the "twist" was both minimal and a very minor part of the film waiting to see if there's a twist, you're drawn in trying to work out what is real and what isn't real as well as what is true VS what are lies. Finding out at the end doesn’t so much make it a twist as much as a revelation; and that in the sense that the film reveals what is truth not it's a big unexpected surprise. Very well made and DiCaprio has been a brilliant actor for some time, he's maturing and getting better with every film (which is only natural), but like Brad Pitt, and Johnny Depp, and even Harrison Ford before him he got an unfair negative rep (mostly amongst males) because of his "pretty boy" looks and career "launch" in films considered female friendly and teen female friendly at that, such as Romeo & Juliet (a polarizing but superb film and Titanic.
#14
Thought it was brilliant, captured me the whole way through. I came away thinking.. well i didnt expect that!
banned#15
ev_ton

Thought this was a very good film and the "twist" was both minimal and a very minor part of the film waiting to see if there's a twist, you're drawn in trying to work out what is real and what isn't real as well as what is true VS what are lies. Finding out at the end doesn’t so much make it a twist as much as a revelation; and that in the sense that the film reveals what is truth not it's a big unexpected surprise.


Calling it a revelation instead of a twist doesn't change the fact that the film relied to heavily on the 'unreliable narrator' reveal towards the end of the film. It was atmospheric but rather derivative.
#16
yep was a great film, so is his inception one
#17
shutter island is awesome!!!
#18
FilthAndFurry
ev_ton
Thought this was a very good film and the "twist" was both minimal and a very minor part of the film waiting to see if there's a twist, you're drawn in trying to work out what is real and what isn't real as well as what is true VS what are lies. Finding out at the end doesn’t so much make it a twist as much as a revelation; and that in the sense that the film reveals what is truth not it's a big unexpected surprise.
Calling it a revelation instead of a twist doesn't change the fact that the film relied to heavily on the 'unreliable narrator' reveal towards the end of the film. It was atmospheric but rather derivative.

It marks the fact that film is not building up to a crowd pleasing twist, that all else in the film is subservient to. The end, because of what goes before is only a reveal and a confirmation of what we suspect. It's not like The Usual Suspects where the reveal is also a massive twist. Hunting the mythical Kingpin throughout the movie we find out that he was along for the ride at every step of the story, a twist and a reveal and even bigger we find out that any amount of the story we thought we were watching was made up, a total twist. Here we get told a story that we can see may be at least 2 different things so it isn't a twist when one of those options is confirmed as the true story. There’s the difference it isn't just words and the film does not need a "money ending" to make the viewer feel like the time spent watching the movie was worthwhile. The Village, for example is also well made and pretty well acted, but the whole story is only of any relevance IF you get to see where & when this village is. Is it floating through space in the bowls of a long dead spaceship, with the secret kept by the elders until they reach their new planet? A zoo / Farm where humans are kept alive as the last of their kind, as long as they give up some to "research" every now and then. In the end the most mundane of possibilities is the answer and the film falls flat, for many, because the "twist” that we are all expecting and waiting for is a letdown and the film had built itself from the ground up on its ending on the reality behind the village. Shutter Island builds itself on the detective story, on what's happening to inmates and staff, on whether or not DiCaprio's character, amongst others, is being manipulated into behaving like a crazy person or not, and how. Sure the reveal is important, as far as rounding out the story goes but it doesn't define the film, act as a crutch, anymore than North by Northwest, Psycho, The Illusionist, Witness or even The Hangover are defined by theirs. The endings serve as the frame work within which a story can be spun, not as the hook that the writers have to artificially build the rest of the story on.

Can't agree, the film stands up all the way through, the reveal at the end isn't of such a standard that it defines the film in anyway. It may make the film go from say 8/10 to 9/10 if you liked it or from 8/10to 7/10 if you didn't, but for most people I'd expect it to just let the film remain at the same level as before. If the film stops before the reveal you've still got a compelling, superbly acted, very well directed story; (With an abrupt and annoying ending). It doesn't rely on a twist to make the rest of the movie make sense or feel like it was worth watching. Think almost every M Knight Shyamalan film post Unbreakable. The film is never about a twist, the reveal just happens to be the resolution of the enigma; and almost all films, especially thrillers, are basically enigma resolution movies; that's not derivative it's the language of motion picture storytelling and has been for decades. The fun, the interest comes in how you tell your story in that framework, or play with it, in this case writing, acting and directing were all excellent. It's an underrated film, although few of those that watch it dislike it.

It was a strange year with DiCaprio being in 2 films that both, in very different ways, dealt with illusion and perception of reality: one in a very old school way, Shutter Island, and one in an extremely modern way, Inception. Both had great performances from Dicaprio and both, whether the individual viewer liked them or not, are great examples of "overtly manipulative" filmmaking and if I was teaching film or media studies (which I may be in a few years) I'd have both of those movies as required viewing for any number of reasons.
This is great though, I was stuck for what I was going to write about this week and now I’ve got at least articles based around manipulation and Shutter Island VS Inception. Oh and the hard life of being a “pretty” actor who wants to be a respected actor more than, or as well as, a star. Depp, Pitt, DiCaprio etc....
#19
ev_ton
FilthAndFurry
ev_ton
Thought this was a very good film and the "twist" was both minimal and a very minor part of the film waiting to see if there's a twist, you're drawn in trying to work out what is real and what isn't real as well as what is true VS what are lies. Finding out at the end doesn’t so much make it a twist as much as a revelation; and that in the sense that the film reveals what is truth not it's a big unexpected surprise.
Calling it a revelation instead of a twist doesn't change the fact that the film relied to heavily on the 'unreliable narrator' reveal towards the end of the film. It was atmospheric but rather derivative.
It marks the fact that film is not building up to a crowd pleasing twist, that all else in the film is subservient to. The end, because of what goes before is only a reveal and a confirmation of what we suspect. It's not like The Usual Suspects where the reveal is also a massive twist. Hunting the mythical Kingpin throughout the movie we find out that he was along for the ride at every step of the story, a twist and a reveal and even bigger we find out that any amount of the story we thought we were watching was made up, a total twist. Here we get told a story that we can see may be at least 2 different things so it isn't a twist when one of those options is confirmed as the true story. There’s the difference it isn't just words and the film does not need a "money ending" to make the viewer feel like the time spent watching the movie was worthwhile. The Village, for example is also well made and pretty well acted, but the whole story is only of any relevance IF you get to see where & when this village is. Is it floating through space in the bowls of a long dead spaceship, with the secret kept by the elders until they reach their new planet? A zoo / Farm where humans are kept alive as the last of their kind, as long as they give up some to "research" every now and then. In the end the most mundane of possibilities is the answer and the film falls flat, for many, because the "twist” that we are all expecting and waiting for is a letdown and the film had built itself from the ground up on its ending on the reality behind the village. Shutter Island builds itself on the detective story, on what's happening to inmates and staff, on whether or not DiCaprio's character, amongst others, is being manipulated into behaving like a crazy person or not, and how. Sure the reveal is important, as far as rounding out the story goes but it doesn't define the film, act as a crutch, anymore than North by Northwest, Psycho, The Illusionist, Witness or even The Hangover are defined by theirs. The endings serve as the frame work within which a story can be spun, not as the hook that the writers have to artificially build the rest of the story on.Can't agree, the film stands up all the way through, the reveal at the end isn't of such a standard that it defines the film in anyway. It may make the film go from say 8/10 to 9/10 if you liked it or from 8/10to 7/10 if you didn't, but for most people I'd expect it to just let the film remain at the same level as before. If the film stops before the reveal you've still got a compelling, superbly acted, very well directed story; (With an abrupt and annoying ending). It doesn't rely on a twist to make the rest of the movie make sense or feel like it was worth watching. Think almost every M Knight Shyamalan film post Unbreakable. The film is never about a twist, the reveal just happens to be the resolution of the enigma; and almost all films, especially thrillers, are basically enigma resolution movies; that's not derivative it's the language of motion picture storytelling and has been for decades. The fun, the interest comes in how you tell your story in that framework, or play with it, in this case writing, acting and directing were all excellent. It's an underrated film, although few of those that watch it dislike it.It was a strange year with DiCaprio being in 2 films that both, in very different ways, dealt with illusion and perception of reality: one in a very old school way, Shutter Island, and one in an extremely modern way, Inception. Both had great performances from Dicaprio and both, whether the individual viewer liked them or not, are great examples of "overtly manipulative" filmmaking and if I was teaching film or media studies (which I may be in a few years) I'd have both of those movies as required viewing for any number of reasons.This is great though, I was stuck for what I was going to write about this week and now I’ve got at least articles based around manipulation and Shutter Island VS Inception. Oh and the hard life of being a “pretty” actor who wants to be a respected actor more than, or as well as, a star. Depp, Pitt, DiCaprio etc....


Yeah i thought that aswell :p

Edited By: junkenstein73 on Oct 10, 2010 17:25: 1
banned#20
I'm not reading all of that, but I disagree.

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