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Sky News: Usain Bolt stripped of historic gold medal after teammate doping case

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Usain stripped of gold medal.
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#1
Want to expand on that or is that all you are going to post? :D
#2
Correct.
#3
sorry thought it would take you to story via link.
#4
Usain Bolt will have to hand back one of hisnine Olympic gold medals after Jamaican team-mate Nesta Carter tested positive for a banned substance.His was one of 454 selected doping samplesretested by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) last year, and has been found to contain the banned stimulant methylhexaneamine.
2 Likes #5
retrospective testing will rewrite a very different story of Jamaican sprinting "success" X)

they're rotten to the core & have been for many years
#6
DarkEnergy2012
retrospective testing will rewrite a very different story of Jamaican sprinting "success" X)

they're rotten to the core & have been for many years
care to explain?
2 Likes #7
I can understand the logic of taking away a teams medals but I don't think it's right. I feel that if the team knew then they would of raced with anyone else and still won.
banned#8
Can everyone please refer to SKY NEWS correct name please?
It's FOX NEWS UK.
Thanks.
1 Like #9
gudyute
care to explain?

Jamaica has a terrible anti-doping regime, they were only testing during competitions meaning athletes would know when to stop doping in order to pass the tests. The only people getting caught are the ones who have been stupid.

Fully expecting a massive wave of positives the when anti-doping tests improve enough to sniff out people who'd been doping between tests.
#10
IWOOTN
sorry thought it would take you to story via link.
You don't get a link when you post in MISC <3
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/athletics/usain-bolt-stripped-of-2008-olympic-medal-after-anti-doping-rule-violation-a7545636.html
2 Likes #11
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
#12
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.

Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
1 Like #13
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.
#14
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.


Agreed. But it doesn't mean the rumour Isn't true. Besides, proof is that more and more athletes from nearly all sports disciplines are being caught. The balance of probability points towards it being systemic and not isolated cases.
1 Like #15
BagABargain78
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.
Agreed. But it doesn't mean the rumour Isn't true. Besides, proof is that more and more athletes from nearly all sports disciplines are being caught. The balance of probability points towards it being systemic and not isolated cases.
is the testing not widespread or effective enough?
2 Likes #16
abigsmurf
gudyute
care to explain?

Jamaica has a terrible anti-doping regime, they were only testing during competitions meaning athletes would know when to stop doping in order to pass the tests. The only people getting caught are the ones who have been stupid.

Fully expecting a massive wave of positives the when anti-doping tests improve enough to sniff out people who'd been doping between tests.
Keep hoping. Everything you are saying is purely circumstantial.
#17
BagABargain78
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.
Agreed. But it doesn't mean the rumour Isn't true. Besides, proof is that more and more athletes from nearly all sports disciplines are being caught. The balance of probability points towards it being systemic and not isolated cases.

That's rubbish. Higher detection rates does not imply high offence rates.
#18
komakino
BagABargain78
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.
Agreed. But it doesn't mean the rumour Isn't true. Besides, proof is that more and more athletes from nearly all sports disciplines are being caught. The balance of probability points towards it being systemic and not isolated cases.

That's rubbish. Higher detection rates does not imply high offence rates.


If you say so. I bow down to your superior inside knowledge of sportsmanship and international anti-doping strategies.
#19
BagABargain78
komakino
BagABargain78
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.
Agreed. But it doesn't mean the rumour Isn't true. Besides, proof is that more and more athletes from nearly all sports disciplines are being caught. The balance of probability points towards it being systemic and not isolated cases.
That's rubbish. Higher detection rates does not imply high offence rates.
If you say so. I bow down to your superior inside knowledge of sportsmanship and international anti-doping strategies.

Thanks. But you don't have to.

Just try to understand that what you are implying is logically fallacious and that will be fine.

:)
#20
davewave
BagABargain78
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.
Agreed. But it doesn't mean the rumour Isn't true. Besides, proof is that more and more athletes from nearly all sports disciplines are being caught. The balance of probability points towards it being systemic and not isolated cases.
is the testing not widespread or effective enough?


I don't know enough about the ins and outs of each sports testing regime. But I do know physiology and it's very very hard for a CLEAN sports person to stay in the same league as a doping competitor. The fact that a lot of sports show only slight margins of difference in performance might suggest the people at the top of their game are on the whole using the similar methods to each other. If your closest rival is found to be doping, people got to ask how it was you were able to rival him so well without doping.
#21
BagABargain78
davewave
BagABargain78
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.
Agreed. But it doesn't mean the rumour Isn't true. Besides, proof is that more and more athletes from nearly all sports disciplines are being caught. The balance of probability points towards it being systemic and not isolated cases.
is the testing not widespread or effective enough?
I don't know enough about the ins and outs of each sports testing regime. But I do know physiology and it's very very hard for a CLEAN sports person to stay in the same league as a doping competitor. The fact that a lot of sports show only slight margins of difference in performance might suggest the people at the top of their game are on the whole using the similar methods to each other. If your closest rival is found to be doping, people got to ask how it was you were able to rival him so well without doping.

People who dope need to cheat because they're not as good as the elite who don't - just a thought.
1 Like #22
What a shame. I hope he never knew about his team mates rule breaking.
#23
gudyute
Keep hoping. Everything you are saying is purely circumstantial.

There is no circumstantial when it comes to doping. Given how detrimental doping is to an (honest) country's reputation it is, if a country's sports body don't follow established rules and procedures, there is a reason they're not.

Lance Armstrong was able to get away with doping for so long because he knew when and where tests would take place. If athletes know when and where they'll be tested you're creating an environment where people will cheat and in athletics if there are people cheating, they're going to be your top athletes. because the non-cheats won't be able to compete.
#24
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.

You mean the fact that athletes keep getting caught now and people like Mo Farah missing several drug tests and just getting away with it? The fact that their coaches have been caught, and so on?

I don't know if your comment is saying "perhaps proof is more important" and you agree with me or that you just disagree which, if you do, you're thick. If you don't, good. :]
#25
komakino
BagABargain78
davewave
BagABargain78
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.
Agreed. But it doesn't mean the rumour Isn't true. Besides, proof is that more and more athletes from nearly all sports disciplines are being caught. The balance of probability points towards it being systemic and not isolated cases.
is the testing not widespread or effective enough?
I don't know enough about the ins and outs of each sports testing regime. But I do know physiology and it's very very hard for a CLEAN sports person to stay in the same league as a doping competitor. The fact that a lot of sports show only slight margins of difference in performance might suggest the people at the top of their game are on the whole using the similar methods to each other. If your closest rival is found to be doping, people got to ask how it was you were able to rival him so well without doping.
People who dope need to cheat because they're not as good as the elite who don't - just a thought.

Lance Armstrong case pretty much sums it up, every top team was on drugs during his reign, various cyclists all said that was the case and competeing was impossible off drugs. Funny how after the clean up times did not drop of dramatically. Retrospective testing has been so successful because there were drugs that could not be tested for at the time let alone taken off season/ out of competition when in most sports athletes aren't tested. With new drugs being developed or found all the time, its certain they have not found them all.
#26
catbeans
komakino
BagABargain78
davewave
BagABargain78
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.
Agreed. But it doesn't mean the rumour Isn't true. Besides, proof is that more and more athletes from nearly all sports disciplines are being caught. The balance of probability points towards it being systemic and not isolated cases.
is the testing not widespread or effective enough?
I don't know enough about the ins and outs of each sports testing regime. But I do know physiology and it's very very hard for a CLEAN sports person to stay in the same league as a doping competitor. The fact that a lot of sports show only slight margins of difference in performance might suggest the people at the top of their game are on the whole using the similar methods to each other. If your closest rival is found to be doping, people got to ask how it was you were able to rival him so well without doping.
People who dope need to cheat because they're not as good as the elite who don't - just a thought.
Lance Armstrong case pretty much sums it up, every top team was on drugs during his reign, various cyclists all said that was the case and competeing was impossible off drugs. Funny how after the clean up times did not drop of dramatically. Retrospective testing has been so successful because there were drugs that could not be tested for at the time let alone taken off season/ out of competition when in most sports athletes aren't tested. With new drugs being developed or found all the time, its certain they have not found them all.
Agree with you, was going to reply earlier along those lines, someone I know used to compete against Armonstrong, he even wore the yellow shirt, some of his team mates got done for doping, and everyone was up in arms! But he wasn't, that is until he got found out, there are plenty of books relaying the mlevel of doping in racing, from pretty much the beginning, it's just that the drugs are more advanced than the testing. Honestly how do we expect people to go faster and faster, without any help. To be fair though it still requires a hell of a lot of training and hard work. can't see that I:d take some of the drugs they do tomorrow and win the tour De France.
1 Like #27
the tests are crucial to determining cheating, people who assume everyone cheats because some cheat are speculating, the truth will surface.
1 Like #28
komakino
BagABargain78
davewave
BagABargain78
davewave
ritchiedrama
catbeans
Nearly everybody is on PEDs in sport inlcuding British Athletes, NEARLY EVERYBODY.
Yep, but all the fanboys and girls don't believe it -- even though without PED's sport is boring anyway.
Perhaps proof is more important than rumour.
Agreed. But it doesn't mean the rumour Isn't true. Besides, proof is that more and more athletes from nearly all sports disciplines are being caught. The balance of probability points towards it being systemic and not isolated cases.
is the testing not widespread or effective enough?
I don't know enough about the ins and outs of each sports testing regime. But I do know physiology and it's very very hard for a CLEAN sports person to stay in the same league as a doping competitor. The fact that a lot of sports show only slight margins of difference in performance might suggest the people at the top of their game are on the whole using the similar methods to each other. If your closest rival is found to be doping, people got to ask how it was you were able to rival him so well without doping.
People who dope need to cheat because they're not as good as the elite who don't - just a thought.

Dumbest thing I have read on here so far.
#29
DarkEnergy2012
retrospective testing will rewrite a very different story of Jamaican sprinting "success" X)
they're rotten to the core & have been for many years

You're silly if you think nobody is doping in athletics or competitive sports. Using PED's is an unwritten convention, it creates a level playing field for everyone. It's not cheating. Heck in certain sports i.e. competitive bodybuilding it's pretty much a given their on PED's, because why wouldn't you? Physiologically the body is only capable of attaining certain levels, then you factor in genetics etc. To push yourself further you need PED's. If I'm competing with others and they're all enhanced, there's no way I will be able to compete against them. Testing will always be a step behind because it's always done retroactively, pharmacists are always creating new variations of PED's that avoid detection. Considering most are using, it might as well become legal; that way it creates a level playing field for all and eliminates "cheating".

This video does a good job of explaining it very well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbDDHDAZYh8&spfreload=10

Saying that, when average gym bro's start using GH and Steroids, it becomes ridiculous. There's no need unless you're competing at a competitive level

Edited By: Al18 on Jan 29, 2017 18:29

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