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banned6y, 4m agoPosted 6 years, 4 months ago
Okay, Just had Sales people around..

Now I'm actually thinking about getting Sky.

Please Let me have a Discussion about them both.

SKY Vs. VIRGIN

Which is Better and Why?
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banned6y, 4m agoPosted 6 years, 4 months ago
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#1
i prefer sky for the simple fact i dont gotta ring them every month to ask why they keep adding random service charges only thing is i think virgin has better bb
banned#2
They told me i can get 11mb in my area, as standard.. I'm sure that can't be true, as virgin offer me 10mb, and don't tell me standard speeds
#3
11MB with Sky could mean anything to be fair but 10MB with Virgin should give you just that.
#4
I prefer virgin plenty of choice they're is no way unless you live next to the exchange you will get anywhere near top speed on bt as it goes on distance and the further you are away the less the speed whereas with virgin it's fibre optic from the box to the street then cable from the street to your house so the speed advertised is the speed you get I'm currently on 50 Meg bb and should be getting 5 mb per sec I'm getting 6 same with when I was on 10 mb and 20 mb constant speed all day and next to no service disruption
#5
Virgin SD tv is definitely better too IMO.
banned#6
Virgin SD? is better? whys that.
#7
The box upscales it to near HD quality not quite but it's hard to tell the difference plus the fact that sky can suffer in bad weather with quality of picture even when it rains!! Look it up mate also cable doesn't as it's underground although when you're neighbour chops through the cable with a spade while gardening it does lol as I found out!
banned#8
ah, alright.
#9
For anyone who has the 50mb connection what downloading and uploading speeds do you get with BitTorrent traffic?
banned#10
somone said 5MB, which wouldbe wooww
#11
D4ND4N
somone said 5MB, which wouldbe wooww

Yeh that would be incredible. High upload speeds would be nice too.
banned#12
uploading never that good, but they are going to 100mb by christmas
#13
Virgin 50mb is nice..
http://www.speedtest.net/result/943189600.png

On torrents 5Mbps+ is very possible but there has to be a lot of seeders to get those speeds really. I have also been having some issues with downloads being inconsistent recently which is a bit of a nightmare (sometimes drops to 400Kbps download).

They will be rolling out a 10:1 download/upload ratio over the next few month and also releasing the 100Mb XXXL package (price not announced yet). So 50Meg will have 5 upload and 100 will have 10 upload.
banned#14
thrustmaster
Virgin 50mb is nice..
http://www.speedtest.net/result/943189600.png

On torrents 5Mbps+ is very possible but there has to be a lot of seeders to get those speeds really. I have also been having some issues with downloads being inconsistent recently which is a bit of a nightmare (sometimes drops to 400Kbps download).

They will be rolling out a 10:1 download/upload ratio over the next few month and also releasing the 100Mb XXXL package (price not announced yet). So 50Meg will have 5 upload and 100 will have 10 upload.
Nice, does that mean the 20mb will have 2mb up?
#15
Sounds like it I currently get 6mb down 200k up upload speed is crap in the uk takes an age to seed back what I download in seconds lol can do 35 gid download in around an hour and a half
#16
Gigabyte
banned#17
shergold
thrustmaster
Virgin 50mb is nice..
http://www.speedtest.net/result/943189600.png

On torrents 5Mbps+ is very possible but there has to be a lot of seeders to get those speeds really. I have also been having some issues with downloads being inconsistent recently which is a bit of a nightmare (sometimes drops to 400Kbps download).

They will be rolling out a 10:1 download/upload ratio over the next few month and also releasing the 100Mb XXXL package (price not announced yet). So 50Meg will have 5 upload and 100 will have 10 upload.
Nice, does that mean the 20mb will have 2mb up?


43 ping on a 50mb connection is poor though
banned#18
robappleby89
For anyone who has the 50mb connection what downloading and uploading speeds do you get with BitTorrent traffic?

50mbps if it is a fully loaded torrent (e.g. openoffice)

no throttling either!

Edited By: csiman on Sep 07, 2010 04:32: dg
banned#19
Interested in TV services
#20
csiman
robappleby89
For anyone who has the 50mb connection what downloading and uploading speeds do you get with BitTorrent traffic?
50mbps if it is a fully loaded torrent (e.g. openoffice)no throttling either!

Cheers might try and persuade my parents to change over. I currently get 600kb/s on downloads and 80 kb/s on uploads, which is fine... but i want more.
#21
D4ND4N
Interested in TV services

I've never had any problems with Sky wrt TV, all good as far as I'm concerned in terms of quality. Also with Sky you get a HD box as standard - you don't get all the HD channels unless you pay £10pm extra, but it does have the Sky+ functionallity, so you can record shows etc. - I don't think that's a standard with Virgin....
[mod]#22
im with sky but with virgin you can record two channels and watch one unlike sky which is record one and watch one

Edited By: goonertillidie on Sep 07, 2010 12:10: ...
#23
With virgin you now get the hd box as standard plus their is no extra fee for hd bar (sky sports and movies). Also with virgin plus box you can record two things and watch a third at the same time. An another extra of virgin is that they have on demand programming and catch up tv (basically iplayer etc etc so you can watch it on the tv not the pc which is great.
banned#24
goonertillidie
im with sky but with virgin you can record two channels and watch one unlike sky which is record one and watch one

this is a major VM winner for me.

unreal how a pvr can only record one channel at once!
#25
robappleby89
csiman
robappleby89
For anyone who has the 50mb connection what downloading and uploading speeds do you get with BitTorrent traffic?
50mbps if it is a fully loaded torrent (e.g. openoffice)no throttling either!


Cheers might try and persuade my parents to change over. I currently get 600kb/s on downloads and 80 kb/s on uploads, which is fine... but i want more.


I dumped the whole bittorrent thing and switch to using Megaupload / Rapidshare, I am getting about 1.9MB per second download speed (the most I have downloaded was 30GB of content one night)

I am on Virgin 10MB Internet service by the way
[mod]#26
csiman
goonertillidie
im with sky but with virgin you can record two channels and watch one unlike sky which is record one and watch one

this is a major VM winner for me.

unreal how a pvr can only record one channel at once!


yeh i got rid of them for HD for sky but now i wish i never however contract is up in october - so see what happens
banned#27
So Sky Vs. Virgin,

I know virgin have better internet, whats sky's net like?
#28
csiman
unreal how a pvr can only record one channel at once!
no, you can record 2 channels at once but have to be on 1 of the channels you are recording.

virgin does kick sky's ass when it comes to b/b speeds but the traffic shaping is terrible @ peak times if exceed a certain amount (apart from the 50 meg package )
sky has a better range of hd channels
here is one of the many sites to compare them

never had a problem with sky b/b, currently syncing @ over 16 meg and d/l speeds from newsgroups @ approx 1300 kb/s

Edited By: boabbyrab on Sep 07, 2010 14:46: because
banned#29
so anymore points?
#30
ryman1000
shergold
thrustmaster
Virgin 50mb is nice..
http://www.speedtest.net/result/943189600.png

On torrents 5Mbps+ is very possible but there has to be a lot of seeders to get those speeds really. I have also been having some issues with downloads being inconsistent recently which is a bit of a nightmare (sometimes drops to 400Kbps download).

They will be rolling out a 10:1 download/upload ratio over the next few month and also releasing the 100Mb XXXL package (price not announced yet). So 50Meg will have 5 upload and 100 will have 10 upload.
Nice, does that mean the 20mb will have 2mb up?


43 ping on a 50mb connection is poor though

Care to explain to me why you would think that? Anything under 50 I would consider good.
#31
I've got broadband 50mb and telephone through Virgin, the broadband reliability and speed is fantastic, I did upgrade the broadband from 20mb service because the throttling issue drove me round the twist, if you use iplayer to watch TV etc, and or download lots of movies etc... you soon go over the limit. Info here Traffic Management

I have Sky HD & Multiroom for my TV.

Pros for sky imho are that the sky boxes are generally fast and responsive and you can whizz through the channels and the epg is fairly intuitive too. They also have a greater selection of HD channels.

Cons for Sky are that if your HD box fails outside of it's warranty they will try and make you buy a new one, I think through VM they retain ownership and just swap it out. My HD box is prone to crashing, about once a week it will freeze up, this is annoying but is easily reset by unplugging.

Both my mum and brother have VM HD boxes, as mentioned they have a triple tuners and their on demand TV is far better than sky's. However the navigation through the tv channels is painfully slow. It can take several seconds or more before the box responds, so if like me you surf up and down to see whats on you'll be pulling your hair out. I don't know if the new VM HD boxes are any better, last I heard they were delayed due to problems with them. As soon as I see one working and if they have solved the unresponsiveness issues I will probably switch to VM for my TV as currently it's costing me a fortune having both.
banned#32
yorkie
I've got broadband 50mb and telephone through Virgin, the broadband reliability and speed is fantastic, I did upgrade the broadband from 20mb service because the throttling issue drove me round the twist, if you use iplayer to watch TV etc, and or download lots of movies etc... you soon go over the limit. Info here Traffic Management

I can only guess, so the only problem, is the lack of the boxes being good, but i guess they will solve this eventually

I have Sky HD & Multiroom for my TV.

Pros for sky imho are that the sky boxes are generally fast and responsive and you can whizz through the channels and the epg is fairly intuitive too. They also have a greater selection of HD channels.

Cons for Sky are that if your HD box fails outside of it's warranty they will try and make you buy a new one, I think through VM they retain ownership and just swap it out. My HD box is prone to crashing, about once a week it will freeze up, this is annoying but is easily reset by unplugging.

Both my mum and brother have VM HD boxes, as mentioned they have a triple tuners and their on demand TV is far better than sky's. However the navigation through the tv channels is painfully slow. It can take several seconds or more before the box responds, so if like me you surf up and down to see whats on you'll be pulling your hair out. I don't know if the new VM HD boxes are any better, last I heard they were delayed due to problems with them. As soon as I see one working and if they have solved the unresponsiveness issues I will probably switch to VM for my TV as currently it's costing me a fortune having both.
banned#33
yorkie
I've got broadband 50mb and telephone through Virgin, the broadband reliability and speed is fantastic, I did upgrade the broadband from 20mb service because the throttling issue drove me round the twist, if you use iplayer to watch TV etc, and or download lots of movies etc... you soon go over the limit. Info here Traffic Management

I have Sky HD & Multiroom for my TV.

Pros for sky imho are that the sky boxes are generally fast and responsive and you can whizz through the channels and the epg is fairly intuitive too. They also have a greater selection of HD channels.

Cons for Sky are that if your HD box fails outside of it's warranty they will try and make you buy a new one, I think through VM they retain ownership and just swap it out. My HD box is prone to crashing, about once a week it will freeze up, this is annoying but is easily reset by unplugging.

Both my mum and brother have VM HD boxes, as mentioned they have a triple tuners and their on demand TV is far better than sky's. However the navigation through the tv channels is painfully slow. It can take several seconds or more before the box responds, so if like me you surf up and down to see whats on you'll be pulling your hair out. I don't know if the new VM HD boxes are any better, last I heard they were delayed due to problems with them. As soon as I see one working and if they have solved the unresponsiveness issues I will probably switch to VM for my TV as currently it's costing me a fortune having both.

that is the old boxes. The new ones are just as fast as sky.
#34
csiman

that is the old boxes. The new ones are just as fast as sky.


Agreed. We switched to Virgin from Sky 2 weeks ago( OH refused to pay extra for ESPN when its free on Virgin in our package) and we expected delays with the box due to family saying how slow it was. We are happy with everything so far, no delay.........my parents have the older box and there is a delay issue with theirs.
#35
csiman
yorkie
I've got broadband 50mb and telephone through Virgin, the broadband reliability and speed is fantastic, I did upgrade the broadband from 20mb service because the throttling issue drove me round the twist, if you use iplayer to watch TV etc, and or download lots of movies etc... you soon go over the limit. Info here Traffic Management

I have Sky HD & Multiroom for my TV.

Pros for sky imho are that the sky boxes are generally fast and responsive and you can whizz through the channels and the epg is fairly intuitive too. They also have a greater selection of HD channels.

Cons for Sky are that if your HD box fails outside of it's warranty they will try and make you buy a new one, I think through VM they retain ownership and just swap it out. My HD box is prone to crashing, about once a week it will freeze up, this is annoying but is easily reset by unplugging.

Both my mum and brother have VM HD boxes, as mentioned they have a triple tuners and their on demand TV is far better than sky's. However the navigation through the tv channels is painfully slow. It can take several seconds or more before the box responds, so if like me you surf up and down to see whats on you'll be pulling your hair out. I don't know if the new VM HD boxes are any better, last I heard they were delayed due to problems with them. As soon as I see one working and if they have solved the unresponsiveness issues I will probably switch to VM for my TV as currently it's costing me a fortune having both.

that is the old boxes. The new ones are just as fast as sky.

bitseylango
csiman

that is the old boxes. The new ones are just as fast as sky.


Agreed. We switched to Virgin from Sky 2 weeks ago( OH refused to pay extra for ESPN when its free on Virgin in our package) and we expected delays with the box due to family saying how slow it was. We are happy with everything so far, no delay.........my parents have the older box and there is a delay issue with theirs.


Will have to try and find one to have a look at ;)
banned#36
Progress:

Rang Virgin to see if they would copy SKY and they said that SKYs sale people were wrong, rang sky back up, and cancelled the installation for friday due to things about it being £20 i my room for a HD mutiroom box, whilst virgin is £49 plus 5.50 a month.. and everything with them is 72.50 a month including broadband phone...

So Virgin has won again :D,
#37
http://www.speedtest.net/result/945721910.png

ping!!!!!!!

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