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Smoking drivers risk prosecution

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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
Motorists who smoke at the wheel could be prosecuted under a new rule in the latest edition of the Highway Code.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7017543.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7017543.stm
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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
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#1
If you're lighting up with one hand and have a fag in the other hand then obviously you've not got any hands on the wheel.


I'll be ok then as I have a lighter in one hand and the fag in my mouth. I find it rather hard to get a satisfactory draw using my hand:roll:
#2
No doubt we'll all have to drive automatic cars! :? (2 hands on the wheel)

Im a non-smoker by the way (9 months on Monday! Cor...thats a pregnancy that is! :w00t:) :thumbsup:
#4
birdyboyuk
No doubt we'll all have to drive automatic cars! :? (2 hands on the wheel)


I saw on the news the other day that they're running trials of robocars (Around Gatwick I think), so no hands on the wheel. Bet they end up with no smoking signs in them though:giggle:
#5
birdyboyuk
No doubt we'll all have to drive automatic cars! :? (2 hands on the wheel)


Yes, I wonder why some governmental genius didn't come with statement like 'manual cars are unsafe as you need to take your hand off steering wheel' yet? Given current anti-car policy of the government (and some moronic ideas of Lib-Dems - ban petrol cars; ban cars that can do 100mph, etc) I can see it coming soon!
#6
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#7
Shengis
I'll be ok then as I have a lighter in one hand and the fag in my mouth. I find it rather hard to get a satisfactory draw using my hand:roll:


I think every smoker does that, then you put the lighter in the dash compartment pocket thingy and smoke with one hand (normally the right hand) and hold the steering wheel between thumb and 2 fingers, With the left hand you can still change gear, then when you need to flick the ash out, you simply hold the wheel with your left hand....

Its simple stuff really and I wouldn't say its that dangerous (Unlike mobile phones where drivers still constantly glue them to their ears!) and in doing such one hand permanently off the wheel!!
#8
Iom-RF
I think every smoker does that, then you put the lighter in the dash compartment pocket thingy and smoke with one hand (normally the right hand) and hold the steering wheel between thumb and 2 fingers, With the left hand you can still change gear, then when you need to flick the ash out, you simply hold the wheel with your left hand....

Its simple stuff really and I wouldn't say its that dangerous (Unlike mobile phones where drivers still constantly glue them to their ears!) and in doing such one hand permanently off the wheel!!

Exactly, and if your coordination is so poor you can't handle such a simple task you shouldnt even be driving a car. The only part I do agree with is that certain drivers WILL go in search of their fag if they drop it, me I just let it burn the upholstery:whistling:
#9
Shengis
The only part I do agree with is that certain drivers WILL go in search of their fag if they drop it, me I just let it burn the upholstery:whistling:


If you drop it on your crotch I bet you'd quickly get the fag! :giggle:
#10
Iom-RF
If you drop it on your crotch I bet you'd quickly get the fag! :giggle:

Oh come on, i'm a bloke. I don't need to look or even concentrate to find that area:giggle:
#11
Can they prosecute drivers with 2000 watt stereos in their Fiestas as well...PLEASE?!!
#12
Mr Fitzpatrick told BBC News: "What it says is that drivers should remember they have to concentrate and they shouldn't be distracted either by passengers, by loud music, by reading a map, or using a mobile phone or by smoking.


So Sat Navs are out as well?
[mod]#13
By the end of the year new laws will be passed preventing you from the following from driving as they could impair your ability to drive safely:

Blinking
Breathing
Coughing
Sneezing
Licking you lips
Passing wind
Scratching

[SIZE=1]Please Note : If you are a foreign national illegally or legally in this country without a license, road tax or insurance then none of the above apply to you - you may continue to kill and maim as many innocent people as you please - NO PUNISHMENT WILL BE HANDED OUT!![/SIZE]
#14
Im sorry, but ill be the first to agree with the governement on this one (im sure theyll be others to follow along shortly)

I drive, dont smoke, and HAVE sat nav.

Sat Nav shouldnt be banned - i dont even look at mine in all honesty - i have it on the highest volume.

I dont see why motorists should be able to smoke BUT not use there mobiles.
At the end of the day, smoking, you still dont have 100% concentration on the road.

What happened if you suddenly lost control of the car but have a cigarette your smoking in your hand?

Its always been a bug bear of mine since the mobile ban came out that people are still allowed to smoke at the wheel.

Bring it on i say, i find it also highly annoying when the smoking car infront chucks its fag butt out the window, usually hits the car behind.
[mod]#15
Although you don't look at your Sat Nav others do. Just like some people don't need to concentrate on smoking.

So you have to draw a line somewhere.

If smoking is a distraction then so are Sat Nav's, Stereos and Passengers. Maybe they should ban them all then. :-D
#16
Joshanna
I drive, dont smoke


Next.....

As a non smoker how can you possibly know how much concentration it takes? I'll tell you now I would NEVER use a mobile whilst driving even with a hands free kit. I tried it once and found it so hard to concentrate on the road while trying to talk to somebody on the phone that I didn't feel at all safe. Sat nav is also a distraction as you are constantly tempted to divert attention from whats in front of you, not so bad as a mobile though as you don't have to think up a witty response to "turn left after 250 yards". As for music, I play it nice and loud as it helps me focus.
#17
Not sure about stereos being a distraction - but i do agree about passengers being a distraction.

As you said, a line has to be drawn somewhere - why disciminate against somethings, but not all?

I still stand by driving while smoking is a distraction.

Just because im a non smoker, doesnt mean i dont know anyone who smokes.

Lighting up the cig will take alot of concentration - which wont be on the road obviously, there has to be a few seconds where you look down to check its lit....
[mod]#18
I'm a Driving Instructor and i don't know of anyone who fully concentrates on the road. Everybody looks at what's going on around them, a pedestrian walking by, a plane in the sky, singing to the radio, listening to the news etc. It's human nature.

Communist state here we come. lol
#19
Syzable
I'm a Driving Instructor and i don't know of anyone who fully concentrates on the road. Everybody looks at what's going on around them, a pedestrian walking by, a plane in the sky, singing to the radio, listening to the news etc. It's human nature.

Communist state here we come. lol


Agree'd ;-)

I dont claim to be the perfect driver at all.

Just find it annoying mobiles are banned but smoking isnt, thats all :)
#20
Joshanna
Lighting up the cig will take alot of concentration - which wont be on the road obviously, there has to be a few seconds where you look down to check its lit....


Actually it doesn't take that much concentration at all:thumbsup:

Syzable. When i'm driving I don't notice whats around me, just whats in front. I find the BIGGEST distraction to be speed cameras as they force me to take my eyes off the road and look at my speedo just to make sure. Counter productive or what?

Edit: Just to add, when I say I don't notice whats around me i'm talking scenery wise, I have a pretty good spatial awareness regarding other road users. Defensive driving and all that;-)
banned#21
i dont think that its actually an offence, more of guide.
#22
hothothot
i dont think that its actually an offence, more of guide.

Just like the pirates code:-D

At a guess it would only be enforced if you were seen to be weaving out of control or had an accident. Time will tell.
[mod]#23
Driving is very much a subconcious thing. I'm sure many people have driven somewhere and remember very little of the journey because they were deep in thought but it's a reflex that when danger appears you realise that you instantly react and have been concentrating on auto-pilot all along.
#24
Just to put this in perspective, under the revised HC its only General Advice rather than a 'Rule' : Link.

See secs 148-150:thumbsup:
#25
Remember the highway code is just an interpretation of the laws concerning public highways and alot of it is just guidelines, unless the word MUST NOT and the appropriate law is referenced i think.

Basically its just advising drivers that its inadvisable and potentially driving without due care + attention.

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