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Some advice needed please regarding safe private transactions...

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Hi all Need some advice really... Im looking at buying something for £400 from someone who has no feedback, but 120 postitive ebay feedback. I've asked if they would mind sending first to which … Read More
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7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
Hi all

Need some advice really...

Im looking at buying something for £400 from someone who has no feedback, but 120 postitive ebay feedback. I've asked if they would mind sending first to which they declined for their own safety. I know I am going to pay, but can i trust they will send the goods. Im sure they will, but £400 is alot of money to lose.

Is there anyway i can pay them via paypal gift or by BT with a credit card, so if they don't happen to send me the goods, i cna claim off my credit card?

Any ways of getting round this?
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7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
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banned#1
i dont think you are covered by either, what is the distance involved?
#2
sassie
i dont think you are covered by either, what is the distance involved?


Im in Suffolk, east anglia - He's in Northampton i believe ! So collection is not possible (always the way :roll:)
banned#3
fastfish77
Im in Suffolk, east anglia - He's in Northampton i believe ! So collection is not possible (always the way :roll:)


lol i have no idea what that dstance is, what you have to aks yourself is "is it worth losing £400 for"
#4
offer half now half after postage?
#5
sassie
lol i have no idea what that dstance is, what you have to aks yourself is "is it worth losing £400 for"


Hmm, also on the othrhand, if they do send them, it will defo be worth paying £400 for ! lol
banned#6
well if you follow all guidelines, and get adress and phone number, check these out before parting with anything then i suppose you can go down and sort it out, but if its close enough to sort out if you dont recieve then its close enough to deal face to face, other option find someone on here close to them who would do the deal for you?
#7
If you pay via paypal & they send via a courier with a tracking service shouldn't everything be recorded and the transaction should be safe?
banned#8
if it was me, i would do the deal through ebay, get thread locked down and deal through ebay and pay his fees, got to e better than loosing £400, although apparently you couldnt leave feedback here for it
#9
Painkiller
If you pay via paypal & they send via a courier with a tracking service shouldn't everything be recorded and the transaction should be safe?


Well ive asked them to send first via RM special delivery, which will prove i have received them and then i have no leg to stand on if i didn't pay them. Because they have proof ive received them. But they won't do that first.

And paypal is a big joke - they will only protect my transaction if it was paid through ebay etc
#10
fastfish77
Hmm, also on the othrhand, if they do send them, it will defo be worth paying £400 for ! lol


The thought 'too good to be true' springs to mind with that comment, you sure you are not letting the potential good price cloud your judgement?

If you pay BT and it goes wrong, then I suppose you could report them to the police or take them to court, but I wouldn't do it if it was me.

If you pay via normal Paypal (not gift) with all the details included, then you will be covered?

Usually when I pay via gift I still have to pay the fees anyway
#11
sassie
if it was me, i would do the deal through ebay, get thread locked down and deal through ebay and pay his fees, got to e better than loosing £400, although apparently you couldnt leave feedback here for it


+1

You will have some protection doing it that way.

But still, If it sounds too good to be true............
#12
Don't know if this helps...

Question :
How am I covered when I purchase an item outside eBay?

Answer :
If you pay for an item using PayPal and have a problem with the purchase, PayPal has two programmes to help protect you:

PayPal Buyer Protection (for eligible items purchased with PayPal on eBay)
PayPal Buyer Complaint Policy (for all other items purchased using PayPal on or off eBay)

PayPal Buyer Protection

PayPal Buyer Protection offers full protection to buyers who pay for their eBay items with PayPal. You are covered for the full amount of your eBay purchase (including postage) in the event that:
You don’t receive the item
You receive an item but it is significantly different than the description on eBay
Note: PayPal Buyer Protection applies to transactions on eBay for eligible items, which include most tangible, physical goods that can be posted. To read the full terms and conditions click here.

PayPal Buyer Complaint Policy

The PayPal Buyer Complaint Policy applies only to items that are not received and which are purchased outside eBay.

If PayPal decides that the claim is valid, the buyer will receive a refund only if there are funds in the seller's account.

To read the full terms and conditions click here.

How to open a dispute under these policies

You can open a dispute on a payment by going to the ‘Resolution Centre’ in your PayPal account and clicking ‘Dispute a Transaction’. PayPal will facilitate communication between you and the seller. If you're still not happy with the result, you can escalate the dispute into a claim. PayPal will review the claim and decide on reimbursement.
banned#13
Mrs.Z
The thought 'too good to be true' springs to mind with that comment, you sure you are not letting the potential good price cloud your judgement?

If you pay BT and it goes wrong, then I suppose you could report them to the police or take them to court, but I wouldn't do it if it was me.

If you pay via normal Paypal (not gift) with all the details included, then you will be covered?

Usually when I pay via gift I still have to pay the fees anyway


only if the seller hasnt emptied their account, and if a scammer they tend to do this - lol
#14
Well ive paid for someone on the forums using normal paypal, and the seller did not send me the item. They did this to about 3 other people at the same time, and paypal refused us all. Said they cant recover the funds! SO i had no protedction off paypal, only if it was bought from ebay
#15
Why don't you get them to create a listing on ebay for it, and you buy it that way?
#16
i would do through paypal not the gift option ..and offer to pay half the fees...i wouldnt expect someone to send anything without payment either..so i see where your both coming from...also your 100% sure the seller here is the same ebay seller??i mean i can go now and pick a random user and claim to be them..
banned#17
lorsmanic
i would do through paypal not the gift option ..and offer to pay half the fees...i wouldnt expect someone to send anything without payment either..so i see where your both coming from...also your 100% sure the seller here is the same ebay seller??i mean i can go now and pick a random user and claim to be them..


im assuming they have sent them an email via ebay to confirm this
#18
The very easy solution then is to do it through eBay.
If it was only a tenner then it obviously wouldn't be a big risk, but £400? I know I couldn't afford to lose it.

Sassie, if Paypal do find in the buyer's favour, then they will refund the buyer even if the money has left Paypal and then chase the seller for the balance, no?
banned#19
Mrs.Z
The very easy solution then is to do it through eBay.
If it was only a tenner then it obviously wouldn't be a big risk, but £400? I know I couldn't afford to lose it.

Sassie, if Paypal do find in the buyer's favour, then they will refund the buyer even if the money has left Paypal and then chase the seller for the balance, no?


yes, if through ebay, no if through a private sale, like on here
#20
Mrs.Z
The very easy solution then is to do it through eBay.
If it was only a tenner then it obviously wouldn't be a big risk, but £400? I know I couldn't afford to lose it.

Sassie, if Paypal do find in the buyer's favour, then they will refund the buyer even if the money has left Paypal and then chase the seller for the balance, no?


They certainly didnt with me and the other 3 people, and it wasn't anymore than a tenner
banned#21
fastfish, is this a private sale through here via pm or on the boards, being a nosey cow i cant find you offering to buy anything for £400
#22
sassie
fastfish, is this a private sale through here via pm or on the boards, being a nosey cow i cant find you offering to buy anything for £400


lol i had a look too,If it is by PM i think you are definitly up for a scamming,

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